What does it take to beat a Z28, 350Z, WRX, stock mustangs?

1911A1 · February 12th, 2007, 06:31 PM

I have a 1994 mustang GT conv 5 speed 5.0. I am getting a bassani X pipe with cats and 1 chamber flow masters using 2.5 pipe. Is it possible with minor mods to beat a 350z, camaro Z28, WRX turbo or what ever they are stock in a zero to 70 race? I use this car as a daily driver and dont want to kill my gas mileage or engin life. Will my pipe be enough on a stock engin? I dont know much about motors or modding cars so Im a little lost. Thanks for the help.

terribleonexx88 · February 12th, 2007, 06:49 PM

get a short shifter and a vortech supercharger

Iwannagofast · February 12th, 2007, 07:08 PM

Ok well i just got my stang today and dont know a whole lot about these cars......however i have read a lot of stats on stock vehicles and horsepower ratings and so forth.....I may be wrong and i may get corrected but i dont think there is any way your gonna touch any of those cars with just an exhaust modification.....those cars you named are 5.0-5.5 0-60 and these stangs are only about 6.5 give or take a lil......thats to the best of my knowledge.......i say throw in a mild cam and port and polish the heads with your exhaust and an intake with maybe a bigger throttle body......thats just my 2 cents

Stangzilla · February 12th, 2007, 07:22 PM

Forget the supercharger put in some 3.73 or 4.10 gears and the rear wheel drive cars you mentioned will be a good race its the AWD ones that you have to worry about..

StangAddiction · February 12th, 2007, 07:24 PM

Your car makes about a 190rwhp, at the most. You're going to need some good top end components and some gears. The convertable is a rathe rheavy car. With an Intake Manifold, a Mild Cam, and some intake and exhaust mods, you might nip 300rwhp. You might needa little headwork as well. With 300rwhp you should beat able to run with those cars listed. Beating them might take a little more power and some skilled driving. If you're really rearing to beat em, get a supercharger though..

Stangzilla · February 12th, 2007, 07:38 PM

Originally Posted by StangAddiction

Your car makes about a 190rwhp, at the most. You're going to need some good top end components and some gears. The convertable is a rathe rheavy car. With an Intake Manifold, a Mild Cam, and some intake and exhaust mods, you might nip 300rwhp. You might needa little headwork as well. With 300rwhp you should beat able to run with those cars listed. Beating them might take a little more power and some skilled driving. If you're really rearing to beat em, get a supercharger though..

You aint gettin 300rwhp without a set of good aluminum heads like AFR or Trick Flow..

1911A1 · February 12th, 2007, 10:23 PM

So gears wont do the trick? How much HP gain am I getting with a bassani x pipe and Flow master 1 chambers?

Stangzilla · February 12th, 2007, 10:26 PM

10-20 if u r lucky

Stangzilla · February 12th, 2007, 10:28 PM

Here borrow my car... :award

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZWFBsZ3TyWQ

TENGRAM · February 13th, 2007, 12:49 AM

350z? those things are slowwww! lt1s aren't that quick either. haven't gotten a chance to beat a subie yet but, provided i get traction it shouldn't be too difficult. lt1 camaros and 350Zs can be beat with very few boltons. a stock 5oh with gears could probably take a 350z. it doesn't take that much. i have beat a couple of 05 mustangs and all i have is gears and a few bolt-ons.

of course, your 94 weighs a few hundred more pounds than mine

WilltheThrill · February 13th, 2007, 01:03 AM

Originally Posted by terribleonexx88

get a short shifter and a vortech supercharger

lol he said he doesn't wanna kill his engine life so he doesnt wanna throw a supercharger onto a regular non-forged engine

Stangzilla · February 13th, 2007, 01:04 AM

Putting a mild boost charger on a non forged engine will not kill it as long as he has a good tune...

Stangzilla · February 13th, 2007, 01:08 AM

Its not the 1\4 mile he is talkin about the 350z will give his vert a run 0-60 if not beat him with the mods he has as will the other cars mentioned... Verts are lead sleds without mods!!!

WilltheThrill · February 13th, 2007, 01:09 AM

Originally Posted by Stangzilla

Forget the supercharger put in some 3.73 or 4.10 gears and the rear wheel drive cars you mentioned will be a good race its the AWD ones that you have to worry about..

yeah DO NOT race any all wheel drive cars from a dead stop with your car, I dont like doin that even with my car, Ive raced one WRX sti and one Evo and it took probably 7 seconds for me to pull up even with them and then leave them, those cars are freakin monsters off the line

WilltheThrill · February 13th, 2007, 01:10 AM

Originally Posted by Stangzilla

Putting a mild boost charger on a non forged engine will not kill it as long as he has a good tune...

but it would take engine life away, of course the engine would be fine for a while

Stangzilla · February 13th, 2007, 01:26 AM

A friend of mine installed a charger a week after he bought it 7 years ago on a 95 mustang and he beats it daily and no problems..

TT86 · February 13th, 2007, 03:04 AM

Originally Posted by Stangzilla

Putting a mild boost charger on a non forged engine will not kill it as long as he has a good tune...

X 2 again for stangzilla...... click on the link in my sig to get another glimpse of a stock non-forged motor making 500 rwhp. Only running 18 degrees total advance on pump gas...... oh yeah, and gets 27 mpg on the freeway

B.A.M302 · February 13th, 2007, 03:21 AM

ok i think if your talking about the LS1 z28's they're running mid 13's with 305 hp stock and are a pretty heavy car if you wanna hang with these cats your gonna need some gears like 373's dont wanna go to high of a ratio cause you'll burn up your rear and cylinder heads upgraded would do the trick maybe even a intake upgrade but a supercharger on a non forged engine is not a bad idea but you wouldnt want to push more than 6pds of boost maybe 9 is pushing it but getting a supercharger isnt the only mod you would have to do to make the car run proper you would need to reprogram you ecu bigger fuel injectors bigger fuel pump mass air flow sensor and more dont go supercharged it will cost you lots of money to make the car run right

WilltheThrill · February 13th, 2007, 03:48 AM

Originally Posted by Stangzilla

A friend of mine installed a charger a week after he bought it 7 years ago on a 95 mustang and he beats it daily and no problems..

how many psi is his supercharger puttin out?

dr.gonzo · February 13th, 2007, 06:12 AM

I dont know about the weight diff from 94 to 88 convertables but I ran consistant 14.9. 3.73 gears and valve body shift kit. I was on cooper cobras with a hint of dryrot and I burned out (rookie mistake) and went through the water. I couldnt tell if I was spinning the tires when I launched I couldnt here anything through the helmet but I was power breaking untill they just about to spin. 2000rpm mabey. my next car will be a hardtop. lesson learned.

February 12th, 2007, 06:31 PM	#1
1911A1 Regular Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 103	What does it take to beat a Z28, 350Z, WRX, stock mustangs? I have a 1994 mustang GT conv 5 speed 5.0. I am getting a bassani X pipe with cats and 1 chamber flow masters using 2.5 pipe. Is it possible with minor mods to beat a 350z, camaro Z28, WRX turbo or what ever they are stock in a zero to 70 race? I use this car as a daily driver and dont want to kill my gas mileage or engin life. Will my pipe be enough on a stock engin? I dont know much about motors or modding cars so Im a little lost. Thanks for the help.

February 12th, 2007, 06:49 PM	#2
terribleonexx88 Enthusiast Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: new england Posts: 813	get a short shifter and a vortech supercharger __________________ 85 4 banger stanger, it likes to sneeze alot when i hit the gas

February 12th, 2007, 07:22 PM	#4
Stangzilla MM Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: On my way to Baines's house!! Posts: 3,095	Forget the supercharger put in some 3.73 or 4.10 gears and the rear wheel drive cars you mentioned will be a good race its the AWD ones that you have to worry about.. __________________ Rotating The Earth 1320 Feet At A Time!! The very existence of flamethrowers proves that sometime, somewhere, someone said to themselves, “You know, I want to set those people over there on fire, but I’m just not close enough to get the job done.”

February 12th, 2007, 10:23 PM	#7
1911A1 Regular Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 103	So gears wont do the trick? How much HP gain am I getting with a bassani x pipe and Flow master 1 chambers? __________________ 1994 Mustang Gt convertible Cobra R rims Bassani X pipe & flow masters Upgraded Sterio System

February 12th, 2007, 10:26 PM	#8
Stangzilla MM Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: On my way to Baines's house!! Posts: 3,095	10-20 if u r lucky __________________ Rotating The Earth 1320 Feet At A Time!! The very existence of flamethrowers proves that sometime, somewhere, someone said to themselves, “You know, I want to set those people over there on fire, but I’m just not close enough to get the job done.”

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February 12th, 2007, 07:08 PM	#3
Iwannagofast Hardcore Enthusiast 1990 Mustang GT 9.39@76.09----1/8th mile Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Arkansas Posts: 1,829	Ok well i just got my stang today and dont know a whole lot about these cars......however i have read a lot of stats on stock vehicles and horsepower ratings and so forth.....I may be wrong and i may get corrected but i dont think there is any way your gonna touch any of those cars with just an exhaust modification.....those cars you named are 5.0-5.5 0-60 and these stangs are only about 6.5 give or take a lil......thats to the best of my knowledge.......i say throw in a mild cam and port and polish the heads with your exhaust and an intake with maybe a bigger throttle body......thats just my 2 cents

February 12th, 2007, 07:24 PM	#5
StangAddiction Enthusiast 2000 Mustang GT Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Virginia Beach Posts: 974	Your car makes about a 190rwhp, at the most. You're going to need some good top end components and some gears. The convertable is a rathe rheavy car. With an Intake Manifold, a Mild Cam, and some intake and exhaust mods, you might nip 300rwhp. You might needa little headwork as well. With 300rwhp you should beat able to run with those cars listed. Beating them might take a little more power and some skilled driving. If you're really rearing to beat em, get a supercharger though..

February 12th, 2007, 10:28 PM	#9
Stangzilla MM Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: On my way to Baines's house!! Posts: 3,095	Here borrow my car... :award http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZWFBsZ3TyWQ __________________ Rotating The Earth 1320 Feet At A Time!! The very existence of flamethrowers proves that sometime, somewhere, someone said to themselves, “You know, I want to set those people over there on fire, but I’m just not close enough to get the job done.”

February 13th, 2007, 12:49 AM	#10
TENGRAM Hardcore Enthusiast Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 1,027	350z? those things are slowwww! lt1s aren't that quick either. haven't gotten a chance to beat a subie yet but, provided i get traction it shouldn't be too difficult. lt1 camaros and 350Zs can be beat with very few boltons. a stock 5oh with gears could probably take a 350z. it doesn't take that much. i have beat a couple of 05 mustangs and all i have is gears and a few bolt-ons. of course, your 94 weighs a few hundred more pounds than mine __________________ 89 GT t5 3.73 www.my5oh.com/

February 13th, 2007, 01:04 AM	#12
Stangzilla MM Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: On my way to Baines's house!! Posts: 3,095	Putting a mild boost charger on a non forged engine will not kill it as long as he has a good tune... __________________ Rotating The Earth 1320 Feet At A Time!! The very existence of flamethrowers proves that sometime, somewhere, someone said to themselves, “You know, I want to set those people over there on fire, but I’m just not close enough to get the job done.”

February 13th, 2007, 01:08 AM	#13
Stangzilla MM Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: On my way to Baines's house!! Posts: 3,095	Its not the 1\4 mile he is talkin about the 350z will give his vert a run 0-60 if not beat him with the mods he has as will the other cars mentioned... Verts are lead sleds without mods!!! __________________ Rotating The Earth 1320 Feet At A Time!! The very existence of flamethrowers proves that sometime, somewhere, someone said to themselves, “You know, I want to set those people over there on fire, but I’m just not close enough to get the job done.”

February 13th, 2007, 01:26 AM	#16
Stangzilla MM Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: On my way to Baines's house!! Posts: 3,095	A friend of mine installed a charger a week after he bought it 7 years ago on a 95 mustang and he beats it daily and no problems.. __________________ Rotating The Earth 1320 Feet At A Time!! The very existence of flamethrowers proves that sometime, somewhere, someone said to themselves, “You know, I want to set those people over there on fire, but I’m just not close enough to get the job done.”

February 13th, 2007, 03:21 AM	#18
B.A.M302 Regular Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: maryland Posts: 89	ok i think if your talking about the LS1 z28's they're running mid 13's with 305 hp stock and are a pretty heavy car if you wanna hang with these cats your gonna need some gears like 373's dont wanna go to high of a ratio cause you'll burn up your rear and cylinder heads upgraded would do the trick maybe even a intake upgrade but a supercharger on a non forged engine is not a bad idea but you wouldnt want to push more than 6pds of boost maybe 9 is pushing it but getting a supercharger isnt the only mod you would have to do to make the car run proper you would need to reprogram you ecu bigger fuel injectors bigger fuel pump mass air flow sensor and more dont go supercharged it will cost you lots of money to make the car run right

February 13th, 2007, 06:12 AM	#20
dr.gonzo Enthusiast Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: kc mo Posts: 840	I dont know about the weight diff from 94 to 88 convertables but I ran consistant 14.9. 3.73 gears and valve body shift kit. I was on cooper cobras with a hint of dryrot and I burned out (rookie mistake) and went through the water. I couldnt tell if I was spinning the tires when I launched I couldnt here anything through the helmet but I was power breaking untill they just about to spin. 2000rpm mabey. my next car will be a hardtop. lesson learned. __________________ FREE LUNCH, FINAL WISDOM, TOTAL COVERAGE... WHY NOT?

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