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Removing heater core loop/Simplifying engine
Im in the process of replacing my head gasket's and studding the head (going turbo).
I have taken that thermactor 'bar' off the back of the heads and plan to plug that, removed the smog pump also, And im going to get an EGR light 'eliminator' So i can remove that also. Do I need to plug the EGR port in the lower intake manifold? Also, I want to totally get rid of the heater core pipes, Can I saw the pipe off right after the temp sensor, Turn the assembly around and put the hose onto the sawed off part and clamp it on? There is a small hose going into the lines that's from the back of the lower intake manifold, what is that for? Can anyone recommend eliminating anything else? |
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Vanilla Godzilla
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pull the solid lines out of the lower intake and toss them, go to ace hardware with the lower intake, take the temp sensor with you and get an adapter so the sensor that was in the heater core line can be screwed straight into the lower intake, then cap that line off on the water pump
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why? your ecm will see that your egr is malfunctioning and disable it resulting in no check engine light. If you pull error codes ever in the future you will get the error code for a failed egr but it won't hurt anything performance wise or display a check engine light without the "eliminator" just an fyi
You can also remove the TAD and TAB solenoids and the EVAR solenoids and associated vacuum lines.. there bolted to the rear of the passenger side shock tower. They have to do with the smog pump and egr You don't need to plug it but should.. if you don't the upper intake will still get heat soaked
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Im assuming I should just put a metal piece into the hose and clamp it down to cap it? (On the pump end) |
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Heat would be nice, but I live in las vegas, so thats a rare problem, and im resistant to the cold myself. |
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When the computer sees the EGR as malfunctioning, I believe it pulls timing at cruise in open loop, but does not effect WOT performance. It would effect gas mileage.
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You remove the lil hose. I just went to napa and bought a big vacuum line plug and put a hose clamp at the base of it, never leaked
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How do you cap the lower intake manifold EGR? (Do I do it at the single smaller round passageway in the center of the lower intake?) Last edited by sniperd : October 20th, 2009 at 06:33 PM. Reason: unsure |
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This one you capped, right?
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If thats the one that goes to those solid lines,yes. I dont remember, been awhile since i looked under the hood of a fox
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heres what the lower looked like with the ect sensor plugged into it, you can see the brass adapter
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nevermind you cant see it, but its screwed into the lower
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I just poked in here for giggle's but sence my question might help this guy....
this black tube that goes to the carbon canister, over the tower, then down the passenger wheel well........ where the fuck does it go!? ![]() (so i can rips it out) Also, where do these emissions junk go, and how can i rip them out with no ill effect?
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That tube in the first picture goes to the gas tank, Just let it vent to the atmosphere, don't cap it (Or if you do get a vented gas cap). However people say it will smell like gas. But mine's off and i haven't smelled any gas.
That second thing is the vacuum tree(s) for all the smog stuff in that back corner, Im taking it all out as we speak. |
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maybe ill run the tube in the car so i can huff gas while i dive
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"If you feel yourself getting a little sober, just take a little rip off that tube coming out of the floorboards!"
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I cut my heater tube past the sensor and ran the heater hose to it and got rid of the pipes.fast and easy but i like the cleaner look of capping off and mounting the etc in the intake.
the black vacuum line is for your vents if you plan to use ac system. you can trash the rest but keep in mind the vac ball in the fender keeps the vents from changing to defrost at wide open throttle |
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