Car will not run

flattusmaximus78 · October 19th, 2009, 07:59 PM

I fire up the car this morning, starts fine like normal. 3/4s of the way to my destination the car shuts off. So I go to crank it and makes almost the dead battery noise, but one click, then it goes back to cranking. So I keep cranking but open the throttle 100 percent and it cranks. I get on my way to school. I get out of class it fires up idles for 3 seconds then dies. Then makes the battery noise then dies. When the motor starts building compression, the rpms are jumping, and it wants to start is were I notice something funny. Only then will the dash lights come on: ebrake, airbag, battery, check engine. If the cars off but key in auxillary nothing shows up on the dash. Radios and lights all work though. What do you think it is?

flyin ryan · October 19th, 2009, 10:24 PM

I don't know only time i've had that type of issue was a screwed ground but I can't honestly say that would be your total issue.

flattusmaximus78 · October 20th, 2009, 01:00 AM

The ground strap from the firewall to the back of the passenger heads' bolt was loose. I didn't have wrench to tighten it. My buddy jiggled it before I got it towed while I tried to start it and nothing, maybe it has to be tightened down all the way.

flattusmaximus78 · October 20th, 2009, 11:03 AM

Well I tightened the ground on the head. It starts much smoother, but still it kills itself after 3 or so seconds idling. I am also still not getting anything on the dash with the key in the on position unless the car is running.

93hatch · October 20th, 2009, 11:25 AM

test the amps the alts putting out cuh, have you tried jumping it?

flattusmaximus78 · October 20th, 2009, 11:29 AM

Electrical is NOT my thing. Im guessing I could just use a dmm to test the amps? and were would I do it. Do you mean jumping it with another car? If so I didnt think about it since everything works but the dash... minus the fact this it wont stay running. Ill try it now though.

93hatch · October 20th, 2009, 11:32 AM

electrical is def gay dude, idk what a dmm is but it sounds sexy, and jumping it with another car and just leave the cables on and see if it says running that way, or once you get yours started pull the neg cable off the battery and see if it dies

flyin ryan · October 20th, 2009, 11:34 AM

If you don't get any dumby lights doesn't that normally point towards a fried ecm? or an issue with the ecm's ground?

flattusmaximus78 · October 20th, 2009, 11:34 AM

lol it's just that tool with the red and black needles for checking power. I went to jump the car with my brothers v6, and his battery is dead. I've been having quite the horrible two days haha.

flattusmaximus78 · October 20th, 2009, 11:36 AM

Originally Posted by flyin ryan

If you don't get any dumby lights doesn't that normally point towards a fried ecm? or an issue with the ecm's ground?

Idk, to be honest. Never had any electrical issues so I've never read into any threads like that. Everything else works fine: radio, headlights, blinkers, hazards, domelight. As soon as it starts everything is 100 percent even on the dash until it dies.

flattusmaximus78 · October 20th, 2009, 02:12 PM

Ok well I was just playing with the car. Pulled my chip, same bs. I did put the key in the aux position, and if I turned it just a nut hair, but not enough to start the dummy lights come on.

Idk if it's relevant, but my electric fan is wired into the msd, so when ever I turn the key in the on position it kicks on. Could it have anything to do with my blaster coil?

flattusmaximus78 · October 20th, 2009, 06:20 PM

swapped in an a9l, no luck still.

Lind · October 20th, 2009, 09:39 PM

check your alt? fuel pressure?

not really sure lol

flattusmaximus78 · October 20th, 2009, 10:12 PM

it was the starter switch under the steering wheel. $ 11 fix; however, now my battery is dieing, it dies off fast to. Battery light is on the dash.

Chris951 · October 20th, 2009, 11:55 PM

Originally Posted by flattusmaximus78

it was the starter switch under the steering wheel. $ 11 fix; however, now my battery is dieing, it dies off fast to. Battery light is on the dash.

I was about to say starter switch then I read this post lol..

flattusmaximus78 · October 21st, 2009, 12:21 AM

I had friends who have been in the game far longer then me make the call, and they were right.

October 19th, 2009, 07:59 PM	#1
flattusmaximus78 I Post Entirely Way Too Much 1993 5.ohhhh 12.97 @140mph Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Gatorland Posts: 6,077 iTrader: 3 reviews	Car will not run I fire up the car this morning, starts fine like normal. 3/4s of the way to my destination the car shuts off. So I go to crank it and makes almost the dead battery noise, but one click, then it goes back to cranking. So I keep cranking but open the throttle 100 percent and it cranks. I get on my way to school. I get out of class it fires up idles for 3 seconds then dies. Then makes the battery noise then dies. When the motor starts building compression, the rpms are jumping, and it wants to start is were I notice something funny. Only then will the dash lights come on: ebrake, airbag, battery, check engine. If the cars off but key in auxillary nothing shows up on the dash. Radios and lights all work though. What do you think it is? __________________ 02 Pewter z28, hoosiers/lid/exhaust/spray...125mph 1993 gt Sold, already missed --Moates Quarter horse $225-- --Cobra intake $150-- --tremec 3550 bell and shifter $1100--

October 20th, 2009, 01:00 AM	#3
flattusmaximus78 I Post Entirely Way Too Much 1993 5.ohhhh 12.97 @140mph Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Gatorland Posts: 6,077 iTrader: 3 reviews	The ground strap from the firewall to the back of the passenger heads' bolt was loose. I didn't have wrench to tighten it. My buddy jiggled it before I got it towed while I tried to start it and nothing, maybe it has to be tightened down all the way. __________________ 02 Pewter z28, hoosiers/lid/exhaust/spray...125mph 1993 gt Sold, already missed --Moates Quarter horse $225-- --Cobra intake $150-- --tremec 3550 bell and shifter $1100--

October 20th, 2009, 11:03 AM	#4
flattusmaximus78 I Post Entirely Way Too Much 1993 5.ohhhh 12.97 @140mph Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Gatorland Posts: 6,077 iTrader: 3 reviews	Well I tightened the ground on the head. It starts much smoother, but still it kills itself after 3 or so seconds idling. I am also still not getting anything on the dash with the key in the on position unless the car is running. __________________ 02 Pewter z28, hoosiers/lid/exhaust/spray...125mph 1993 gt Sold, already missed --Moates Quarter horse $225-- --Cobra intake $150-- --tremec 3550 bell and shifter $1100--

October 20th, 2009, 11:25 AM	#5
93hatch Banned 1992 Lx 11.39@119.24 Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Az Posts: 11,665 iTrader: 0 reviews	test the amps the alts putting out cuh, have you tried jumping it? __________________ [QUOTE=93mustank;2577445]We speed tested my right arm for quickness in shifts... So he could design the cam for proper shift recovery.[/QUOTE]

October 20th, 2009, 11:29 AM	#6
flattusmaximus78 I Post Entirely Way Too Much 1993 5.ohhhh 12.97 @140mph Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Gatorland Posts: 6,077 iTrader: 3 reviews	Electrical is NOT my thing. Im guessing I could just use a dmm to test the amps? and were would I do it. Do you mean jumping it with another car? If so I didnt think about it since everything works but the dash... minus the fact this it wont stay running. Ill try it now though. __________________ 02 Pewter z28, hoosiers/lid/exhaust/spray...125mph 1993 gt Sold, already missed --Moates Quarter horse $225-- --Cobra intake $150-- --tremec 3550 bell and shifter $1100--

October 19th, 2009, 10:24 PM	#2
flyin ryan Banned Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 3,387 iTrader: 0 reviews	I don't know only time i've had that type of issue was a screwed ground but I can't honestly say that would be your total issue.

October 20th, 2009, 11:32 AM	#7
93hatch Banned 1992 Lx 11.39@119.24 Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Az Posts: 11,665 iTrader: 0 reviews	electrical is def gay dude, idk what a dmm is but it sounds sexy, and jumping it with another car and just leave the cables on and see if it says running that way, or once you get yours started pull the neg cable off the battery and see if it dies __________________ [QUOTE=93mustank;2577445]We speed tested my right arm for quickness in shifts... So he could design the cam for proper shift recovery.[/QUOTE]

October 20th, 2009, 11:34 AM	#8
flyin ryan Banned Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 3,387 iTrader: 0 reviews	If you don't get any dumby lights doesn't that normally point towards a fried ecm? or an issue with the ecm's ground?

October 20th, 2009, 02:12 PM	#11
flattusmaximus78 I Post Entirely Way Too Much 1993 5.ohhhh 12.97 @140mph Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Gatorland Posts: 6,077 iTrader: 3 reviews	Ok well I was just playing with the car. Pulled my chip, same bs. I did put the key in the aux position, and if I turned it just a nut hair, but not enough to start the dummy lights come on. Idk if it's relevant, but my electric fan is wired into the msd, so when ever I turn the key in the on position it kicks on. Could it have anything to do with my blaster coil? __________________ 02 Pewter z28, hoosiers/lid/exhaust/spray...125mph 1993 gt Sold, already missed --Moates Quarter horse $225-- --Cobra intake $150-- --tremec 3550 bell and shifter $1100--

October 20th, 2009, 06:20 PM	#12
flattusmaximus78 I Post Entirely Way Too Much 1993 5.ohhhh 12.97 @140mph Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Gatorland Posts: 6,077 iTrader: 3 reviews	swapped in an a9l, no luck still. __________________ 02 Pewter z28, hoosiers/lid/exhaust/spray...125mph 1993 gt Sold, already missed --Moates Quarter horse $225-- --Cobra intake $150-- --tremec 3550 bell and shifter $1100--

October 20th, 2009, 09:39 PM	#13
Lind Enthusiast 1994 Ford Mustang GT Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Shawano, WI Posts: 580 iTrader: 0 reviews	check your alt? fuel pressure? not really sure lol __________________ www.moddedmustangs.com

October 20th, 2009, 10:12 PM	#14
flattusmaximus78 I Post Entirely Way Too Much 1993 5.ohhhh 12.97 @140mph Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Gatorland Posts: 6,077 iTrader: 3 reviews	it was the starter switch under the steering wheel. $ 11 fix; however, now my battery is dieing, it dies off fast to. Battery light is on the dash. __________________ 02 Pewter z28, hoosiers/lid/exhaust/spray...125mph 1993 gt Sold, already missed --Moates Quarter horse $225-- --Cobra intake $150-- --tremec 3550 bell and shifter $1100--

October 21st, 2009, 12:21 AM	#16
flattusmaximus78 I Post Entirely Way Too Much 1993 5.ohhhh 12.97 @140mph Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Gatorland Posts: 6,077 iTrader: 3 reviews	I had friends who have been in the game far longer then me make the call, and they were right. __________________ 02 Pewter z28, hoosiers/lid/exhaust/spray...125mph 1993 gt Sold, already missed --Moates Quarter horse $225-- --Cobra intake $150-- --tremec 3550 bell and shifter $1100--

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