[ironsteed5.0]

Opinions on AFR VS. Trickflows?

[88-gt-t-top]

lemme put it to you(the op) this way... If you plan on running a big cam with a stock bottom end you're options for heads are TF, if you plan on running a mild cam with a stock block you can use just about any company, if you plan on running a new rotating assembly/big cam you could use any company.

My reasoning for this is that with any "traditional" style head you're more likely to run into PTV issues that you wouldn't have with the TF TW heads, because of this "twisted wedge" design, it places the valves in a different location when compaired to a "traditional" head. Thus leaving you more room for more choices in valve train.

[ironsteed5.0]

Originally Posted by 88-gt-t-top lemme put it to you(the op) this way... If you plan on running a big cam with a stock bottom end you're options for heads are TF, if you plan on running a mild cam with a stock block you can use just about any company, if you plan on running a new rotating assembly/big cam you could use any company. My reasoning for this is that with any "traditional" style head you're more likely to run into PTV issues that you wouldn't have with the TF TW heads, because of this "twisted wedge" design, it places the valves in a different location when compaired to a "traditional" head. Thus leaving you more room for more choices in valve train.

So if it was between AFR's and TF's you would go TF for the sole reason of more cam choice? Which heads flow better?

[88-gt-t-top]

Originally Posted by ironsteed5.0 So if it was between AFR's and TF's you would go TF for the sole reason of more cam choice? Which heads flow better?

I would go with TF because their a proven product... I'm sure both heads flow close enough with eachother that to someone like us(having fun doing this not racing as a career) depending on other part choices wouldn't notice the difference and at that point you're buying the company name/logo

[ironsteed5.0]

Originally Posted by 88-gt-t-top I would go with TF because their a proven product... I'm sure both heads flow close enough with eachother that to someone like us(having fun doing this not racing as a career) depending on other part choices wouldn't notice the difference and at that point you're buying the company name/logo

That's a good point, thanks for clearing that up. Would you go with their vavletrain products like rockers and shit or would you go elsewhere for that?

[R0B0T]

AFR heads come with better ports out of the box.

[88-gt-t-top]

it all depends on what you have to spend, what you expect out of the car... I do know one thing though is stay away from Spider/Turantula/Scorpion IDFK lol, RR there was a few guys that posted saying they failed/broke in some crazy short amount of time.
I think they were anodized blue if that helps, lol
seriosuly though you could spend thousands on valve train/rr/push rods... I didn't, and I'm not familiar with what are the best parts for the $. I would stick with the bigger names: Crane...drawing blank... lol well i guess just them for right now

[ironsteed5.0]

Originally Posted by 88-gt-t-top it all depends on what you have to spend, what you expect out of the car... I do know one thing though is stay away from Spider/Turantula/Scorpion IDFK lol, RR there was a few guys that posted saying they failed/broke in some crazy short amount of time. I think they were anodized blue if that helps, lol seriosuly though you could spend thousands on valve train/rr/push rods... I didn't, and I'm not familiar with what are the best parts for the $. I would stick with the bigger names: Crane...drawing blank... lol well i guess just them for right now

Word. I'm trying to do my research before I start working on building a 331 or 347 on the side, or if I decide to be a lazy ass and get a longblock. I'm pretty torn between the AFR 185's and the trickflows. Sorry for jacking the thread lol

Oh and I think its Scorpion. I saw today that Coast High Perf. puts those in their long blocks.

[superbean]

Hop on the forums and see what you can find.

A friend of mine has some afr 165s he would probably sell cheap

[ironsteed5.0]

Originally Posted by superbean Hop on the forums and see what you can find. A friend of mine has some afr 165s he would probably sell cheap

165's for a 331 or 347?

[88-gt-t-top]

both motors(331/347) will support same head

ie: 185, 205

[baine21225]

Trickflow

[88-gt-t-top]

Originally Posted by baine21225 Trickflow

well said...

[ironsteed5.0]

Originally Posted by superbean Hop on the forums and see what you can find. A friend of mine has some afr 165s he would probably sell cheap

Originally Posted by 88-gt-t-top both motors(331/347) will support same head ie: 185, 205

I figured as much, This is why i asked ^

[89lx4life]

tf tw, tfs cam, as far as an intake goes what would go good with that? right now i have a gt40 stick with that or swap it?

[88-gt-t-top]

^ to this guy.... what size heads, what stage cam ie: 1,2,3... and you're saying the car is stick or you want to swap to stick? I'm not sure what you're saying....

[ironsteed5.0]

Originally Posted by 89lx4life tf tw, tfs cam, as far as an intake goes what would go good with that? right now i have a gt40 stick with that or swap it?

Originally Posted by 88-gt-t-top ^ to this guy.... what size heads, what stage cam ie: 1,2,3... and you're saying the car is stick or you want to swap to stick? I'm not sure what you're saying....

I believe he's saying he has a GT40 intake and he is asking if he should keep it or get a different intake

[flatlinerford]

i gotta friend that has set of world windsor jr heads for 650 complete with new springs, rollerrockers

[89lx4life]

I believe he's saying he has a GT40 intake and he is asking if he should keep it or get a different intake

exactly, right now i have a gt40 intake and a 65mm tb, keep or swap?

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[flamestang]

just throwing it out there. Patriot heads have often been mistaken for being a cheap head made overseas but in fact there not.They are made in the USA Rainbow city AL in fact. They make one of the only 2v 4.6 heads and releasing a new 3v. Their policy is to replace any defective head at no charge. just visit their website and form your own opinion.