Which has greater HP gain?

chrisbmx · November 24th, 2009, 05:03 PM

Going through the millions of options to add power to my car and looking at this path. I change mind every other week, but the information is still helpful.

Which would have a greater power gain on an otherwise stock 302?
87 5 liter with speed density, flowmaster catback, K&N panel filter.
Car has 3.73's, Pro 5.0 shifter, stock T-5.

Would be converted to mass air if option 1, option 2 only if needed after change.
Either option gets a 255 lph fuel pump and 30# injectors.

Option 1 - Paxton Novi 1000 supercharger, used 70mm MAF.
Option 2 - TFS twisted wedge heads, new intake (cobra, etc), 1.7 rockers.

Both would cost me about the same money (I'd install the blower myself, but pay someone to do the heads).

exhaust, traction, c-clip eliminators, control arms, subframe connectors, etc would be coming later.

flyin ryan · November 24th, 2009, 05:10 PM

I would pickup a nice used with extras paxton novi1k then pickup a nice intake and get wrenching.

The heads of course are the biggest bottle neck but you'll gain more with the blower then you will with just heads and rr's in my opinion.

JBIGBOOTSY · November 24th, 2009, 05:48 PM

Originally Posted by flyin ryan

I would pickup a nice used with extras paxton novi1k then pickup a nice intake and get wrenching.

The heads of course are the biggest bottle neck but you'll gain more with the blower then you will with just heads and rr's in my opinion.

your opinion is correct.

e3sean · November 24th, 2009, 06:07 PM

save your money and get both. but more power will do you no good if you cant get it to the ground. build up your suspension and stiffin up your chassis first.

86_Notch · November 24th, 2009, 06:16 PM

Option 3

Nitrous and sticky tires FTW !!!

chrisbmx · November 24th, 2009, 08:47 PM

Thanks guys! Where is a good place to get a used Novi1K, Corral forums? How can I tell if it's good or I'm getting ripped off?

I am glad the blower gets more, since I can do that myself and not have to worry about piston to valve and all that stuff. I'll put in a boost and rich/lean gauge too.

The nitrous, chassis, and slicks would get me quicker cheaper and sooner, but I am not building a drag car, just something to have fun with around town.

My friend has a street legal twin turbo viper that had a best time of 7.92.

I'll never be that fast, but I like the seat of the pants feel when driving down the highway at 55, punching it and getting pinned back in the seat.

I read about a bigger crank pulley that will up the boost to 8-10 with underdrives on the alt/ps/water. Maybe in the future?

How much more will the blower setup likely get me?

91 fox · November 24th, 2009, 11:37 PM

Supercharger gains are like 50-120hp just depending on your setup. What heads do you have on your car?

JBIGBOOTSY · November 25th, 2009, 06:20 AM

Originally Posted by 91 fox

Supercharger gains are like 50-120hp just depending on your setup. What heads do you have on your car?

Supercharger gains can reach to over a few thousand hp on some applications.

flattusmaximus78 · November 25th, 2009, 08:27 AM

lulz jb

ddarkslayer · November 25th, 2009, 03:28 PM

H/C/I and suspention and it all depends if you want a power adder or just naturally asparated

chrisbmx · November 25th, 2009, 04:30 PM

Originally Posted by 91 fox

Supercharger gains are like 50-120hp just depending on your setup. What heads do you have on your car?

I have stock heads. Heads will come later to free up more power.

Where can I get a used novi 1000 and be sure it's a whole kit and a trustworthy source?

flyin ryan · November 25th, 2009, 04:38 PM

Here's one
Novi 1000 plus extras (fox) - Corral Forums

although i'd go with an strim, more power can be made with them when you need it
Fox Body Vortech S- Trim kit - Corral Forums

EscortSportage · November 26th, 2009, 05:20 PM

turbo!

chrisbmx · November 26th, 2009, 08:43 PM

Turbo is too much fab/cutting work from what I read. I hear of fittment issues and people taking up to 40 hours of work to install the turbo. I looked at boost brothers and thought about it, but from what I see, supercharger would be a much easier install. Correct? There may be more expensive turbo kits that fit better and install easier, but I'm not spending $5k for a power adder when I can get a supercharger, heads, chassis, etc all for the same total money. Just my opinion.

86_Notch · November 26th, 2009, 09:02 PM

Fast forward to 6:04 .

Supercharged 302 , small tired mustang ( the car now runs 8.0s )

YouTube- Broadcast Yourself.

sickfox · November 27th, 2009, 12:11 AM

Originally Posted by 86_Notch

Fast forward to 6:04 .

Supercharged 302 , small tired mustang ( the car now runs 8.0s )

YouTube- Broadcast Yourself.

November 24th, 2009, 05:03 PM	#1
chrisbmx Regular 1987 GT 13.19 @ 107.02 (street tires) Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: PA Posts: 164 iTrader: 0 reviews	Which has greater HP gain? Going through the millions of options to add power to my car and looking at this path. I change mind every other week, but the information is still helpful. Which would have a greater power gain on an otherwise stock 302? 87 5 liter with speed density, flowmaster catback, K&N panel filter. Car has 3.73's, Pro 5.0 shifter, stock T-5. Would be converted to mass air if option 1, option 2 only if needed after change. Either option gets a 255 lph fuel pump and 30# injectors. Option 1 - Paxton Novi 1000 supercharger, used 70mm MAF. Option 2 - TFS twisted wedge heads, new intake (cobra, etc), 1.7 rockers. Both would cost me about the same money (I'd install the blower myself, but pay someone to do the heads). exhaust, traction, c-clip eliminators, control arms, subframe connectors, etc would be coming later.

November 24th, 2009, 06:07 PM	#4
e3sean I Post Entirely Way Too Much 1988 lx 9.68@142 Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: goldsboro NC Posts: 5,609 iTrader: 0 reviews	save your money and get both. but more power will do you no good if you cant get it to the ground. build up your suspension and stiffin up your chassis first. __________________

November 24th, 2009, 06:16 PM	#5
86_Notch Hardcore Enthusiast 1986 lx notch 9.98 @ 135 Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Delaware Posts: 1,522 iTrader: 0 reviews	Option 3 Nitrous and sticky tires FTW !!! __________________ " Spending money I don't have.... on things I don't need .... to impress people I don't know " .

November 25th, 2009, 08:27 AM	#9
flattusmaximus78 I Post Entirely Way Too Much 1993 5.ohhhh 12.97 @140mph Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Gatorland Posts: 6,122 iTrader: 3 reviews	lulz jb __________________ 02 Pewter z28, hoosiers/lid/exhaust/spray...125mph 1993 gt Sold, already missed --Moates Quarter horse $225-- --Cobra intake $150-- --tremec 3550 bell and shifter $1100--

November 26th, 2009, 05:20 PM	#13
EscortSportage Hardcore Enthusiast 1989 Mustang GT 5.0 Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: CT Posts: 2,186 iTrader: 0 reviews	turbo! __________________ Cage Maximum Motorsports Sparco QH/BE Nitto "a huge bad azz motor is nice untill you have to turn or stop"

November 24th, 2009, 05:10 PM	#2
flyin ryan Banned Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 3,387 iTrader: 0 reviews	I would pickup a nice used with extras paxton novi1k then pickup a nice intake and get wrenching. The heads of course are the biggest bottle neck but you'll gain more with the blower then you will with just heads and rr's in my opinion.

November 24th, 2009, 08:47 PM	#6
chrisbmx Regular 1987 GT 13.19 @ 107.02 (street tires) Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: PA Posts: 164 iTrader: 0 reviews	Thanks guys! Where is a good place to get a used Novi1K, Corral forums? How can I tell if it's good or I'm getting ripped off? I am glad the blower gets more, since I can do that myself and not have to worry about piston to valve and all that stuff. I'll put in a boost and rich/lean gauge too. The nitrous, chassis, and slicks would get me quicker cheaper and sooner, but I am not building a drag car, just something to have fun with around town. My friend has a street legal twin turbo viper that had a best time of 7.92. I'll never be that fast, but I like the seat of the pants feel when driving down the highway at 55, punching it and getting pinned back in the seat. I read about a bigger crank pulley that will up the boost to 8-10 with underdrives on the alt/ps/water. Maybe in the future? How much more will the blower setup likely get me?

November 24th, 2009, 11:37 PM	#7
91 fox Regular 1991 mustang 5.0 LX N/A Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: texas Posts: 88 iTrader: 0 reviews	Supercharger gains are like 50-120hp just depending on your setup. What heads do you have on your car?

November 25th, 2009, 03:28 PM	#10
ddarkslayer Hardcore Enthusiast 1988 Mustang 5.0 LX 12.48@118.27 Join Date: May 2009 Location: Folsom, CA Posts: 1,446 iTrader: 0 reviews	H/C/I and suspention and it all depends if you want a power adder or just naturally asparated

November 25th, 2009, 04:38 PM	#12
flyin ryan Banned Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 3,387 iTrader: 0 reviews	Here's one Novi 1000 plus extras (fox) - Corral Forums although i'd go with an strim, more power can be made with them when you need it Fox Body Vortech S- Trim kit - Corral Forums

November 26th, 2009, 08:43 PM	#14
chrisbmx Regular 1987 GT 13.19 @ 107.02 (street tires) Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: PA Posts: 164 iTrader: 0 reviews	Turbo is too much fab/cutting work from what I read. I hear of fittment issues and people taking up to 40 hours of work to install the turbo. I looked at boost brothers and thought about it, but from what I see, supercharger would be a much easier install. Correct? There may be more expensive turbo kits that fit better and install easier, but I'm not spending $5k for a power adder when I can get a supercharger, heads, chassis, etc all for the same total money. Just my opinion.

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