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Old March 6th, 2007, 07:14 PM   #21
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Originally Posted by JBIGBOOTSY
mid 1.80s NA, Low 1.70s. low 13s NA, and a damn 12.02 with 150hp, I spent all last season trying to break 11.99 or better, I just coulden't get it. I tried, all my buddies tried, I even asked this a couple of racers at the track, just wasn't happening I guess. I've noticed some really strong cars pull the wheels, some don't. For me It's my daily driver, I deliver pizzas in it. My goal for the car is break 11s easy, and get both wheels up. I'm really close. There is so much to suspension set-up. center of gravity, weight distribution, roll center, Percent of rise, theres tons of math and every aspect of it changes under load, so generaly people simplify is by stating the basics like, soft front suspension, medium to stiff rear suspension, shave weight from the front exct...
Yea I hear you man... mine is a daily driver too...I try not to over do it if its gonna affect my ride quality, I'm willing to sacrifice a little tho.

I just recieved my strange adjustable rear shocks yesterday so hopefully I can slap them on today and do a little test n tune out in the country to practice my launch techn.
 

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Old March 6th, 2007, 10:31 PM   #22
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How much different are teh V6 springs than the 4 cyl? My car is an 85 and was a v6 teh the PO put the V8 in, Just wondering if they are good to keep or do I need to ditch them for something else?
 
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Originally Posted by boof1027
How much different are teh V6 springs than the 4 cyl? My car is an 85 and was a v6 teh the PO put the V8 in, Just wondering if they are good to keep or do I need to ditch them for something else?
Are you sure your 85 came with a v6 before it was converted to a v8? Im not too sure about mustang history, but I thought fox bodys were made with 4 cyl. and v8's, and some earlier mustangs (78 and below) came with inline 6 cylinder engines. As far as the springs go I would probably stick with those springs if you are into drag racing for an occasional trip to the strip for better weight transfer. How much gap do you have between the fender and tire (in inches)?
 
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Originally Posted by dmarstroker

Are you sure your 85 came with a v6 before it was converted to a v8? Im not too sure about mustang history, but I thought fox bodys were made with 4 cyl. and v8's, and some earlier mustangs (78 and below) came with inline 6 cylinder engines.
That's what I was thinking. Then I googled. Straight from wikiturdia:

1983–1986

"The 3.8 liter (232 cid) Essex V6 replaced the 200 cid I6. The dismal 255 had little demand and was dropped after 1982. Ford added a convertible to the Mustang line in 1983 in response to the 1982 Chrysler convertibles. In 1983, the Mustang GT received a 4-bbl carburetor and a new intake manifold, bringing power to 175 hp. The rare SVO Mustang appeared for 1984, with a far more powerful and refined 2.3 L turbocharged inline-4. It also sported handling and braking abilities that would humble a Mustang GT. However, the steep price tag put off most potential buyers, considering they could own the stronger 5.0 L Mustang GT for less. In 1985, the Mustang GT got the exclusive 5.0 L H.O., with new E5 cylinder heads, a Holley 4-barrel carburetor, a new, more aggressive roller camshaft, a new intake manifold, less restrictive exhaust manifolds, and a pseudo dual exhaust, bringing power to a conservatively rated 210 horsepower. This combination was short lived however, because in 1986, Ford released the first fuel-injected 5.0 L. With the high swirl E6 heads, the early 5.0 H.O. EFI intake, higher compression, and dual exhaust, it made for a motor with an abundance of throttle response and low rpm torque, and a very broad powerband that signed off suddenly, at just 5000 rpm."

V6 was dropped for the real Fox bodies, 87-93
 
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Originally Posted by dmarstroker

Are you sure your 85 came with a v6 before it was converted to a v8? Im not too sure about mustang history, but I thought fox bodys were made with 4 cyl. and v8's, and some earlier mustangs (78 and below) came with inline 6 cylinder engines.
That's what I was thinking. Then I googled. Straight from wikiturdia:

1983–1986

"The 3.8 liter (232 cid) Essex V6 replaced the 200 cid I6. The dismal 255 had little demand and was dropped after 1982. Ford added a convertible to the Mustang line in 1983 in response to the 1982 Chrysler convertibles. In 1983, the Mustang GT received a 4-bbl carburetor and a new intake manifold, bringing power to 175 hp. The rare SVO Mustang appeared for 1984, with a far more powerful and refined 2.3 L turbocharged inline-4. It also sported handling and braking abilities that would humble a Mustang GT. However, the steep price tag put off most potential buyers, considering they could own the stronger 5.0 L Mustang GT for less. In 1985, the Mustang GT got the exclusive 5.0 L H.O., with new E5 cylinder heads, a Holley 4-barrel carburetor, a new, more aggressive roller camshaft, a new intake manifold, less restrictive exhaust manifolds, and a pseudo dual exhaust, bringing power to a conservatively rated 210 horsepower. This combination was short lived however, because in 1986, Ford released the first fuel-injected 5.0 L. With the high swirl E6 heads, the early 5.0 H.O. EFI intake, higher compression, and dual exhaust, it made for a motor with an abundance of throttle response and low rpm torque, and a very broad powerband that signed off suddenly, at just 5000 rpm."

V6 was dropped for the real Fox bodies, 87-93
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Yeah it had the 3.8 TBI. I decoded the vin number last night. I will measure in a bit and take a pic.
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Originally Posted by dmarstroker

Are you sure your 85 came with a v6 before it was converted to a v8? Im not too sure about mustang history, but I thought fox bodys were made with 4 cyl. and v8's, and some earlier mustangs (78 and below) came with inline 6 cylinder engines. As far as the springs go I would probably stick with those springs if you are into drag racing for an occasional trip to the strip for better weight transfer. How much gap do you have between the fender and tire (in inches)?
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Didn't get to measure it but there is a pic. I am wondering if I upgrade my springs will it lower me more than this? Because where I live driving this car is hard and impossible if lower.

It is sitting on a little bit of a slope the back when level is about the same as the front.
 
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Originally Posted by boof1027


Didn't get to measure it but there is a pic. I am wondering if I upgrade my springs will it lower me more than this? Because where I live driving this car is hard and impossible if lower.

It is sitting on a little bit of a slope the back when level is about the same as the front.
If you go with an aftermarket brand such as bbk, eibach, ect. it will lower it a little more, just depends on which company you go with. I have the eibach sportline springs and it lowered mine about 2 inches up front and 1 1/2 inches in the rear. Your stang looks good by the way. Is that a fresh paint job on there?
 
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Doors back is a year old, front end is about a month old. Had to paint the cowl hood and front bumper.
Thanks for the compliment. I love my car now it needs suspension work.
 
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Originally Posted by boof1027
Doors back is a year old, front end is about a month old. Had to paint the cowl hood and front bumper.
Thanks for the compliment. I love my car now it needs suspension work.
Are you going for street/strip suspension or just for a daily driver?
 
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Daily driver that is strip capable. I know upper and lowers will probably come first.
 
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Originally Posted by boof1027
Daily driver that is strip capable. I know upper and lowers will probably come first.
If you ever think about changing struts and shocks, look into the strange adjustables...they're cheap and dont cost an arm and a leg unlike the mm stuff. They're externally adjustable and they work great. I'm running no sway bar up front as a dd and all I did was set the struts to a stiffer setting...I'm not saying I can take turns wickedly fast, but it helps.
 
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