Starter Question/ Problem (Heat Soak)

xjer88 · March 2nd, 2007, 09:18 PM

Ok, I have a slight issue that im sure many of you have dealt with already. When I drive for a while my starter gets heat soaked and doesnt want to turn over the engine. It is a higher compression 347 stroker so i can understand why its having a problem. I have BBK shorty headers. Soooo my question is what do you recommend? I have already got a better battery which seemed to help some, and I have a higher amp alternator on its way. I have a feeling thats not gonna do it. So i was thinking about a new starter. The mean green is an awesome starter from what ive heard, but the price is killer at $300. The other option is to just go with a PMGR(Permanent Magnet Gear-Reduction) Starter from a place like PA Performance or such. And save about $150 over the Green. But my main concern is the Heat Soak. Anybody running a PMGR starter and not have heat soak problems? TIA ---Sam

Stangzilla · March 2nd, 2007, 09:26 PM

Wrap it with heat wrap. I have long tubes in my car and a high torque starter. I have not had to wrap it yet.... I have a 347cid also..

xjer88 · March 2nd, 2007, 09:37 PM

Originally Posted by Stangzilla

Wrap it with heat wrap. I have long tubes in my car and a high torque starter. I have not had to wrap it yet.... I have a 347cid also..

Yeah i was just looking at wrap on ebay. Maybe I will order some tonight.
Thanks for your Input. But i still think I should go with a better starter becuase even when its cold it barely wants to turn over. What starter brand are you running?

Stangzilla · March 2nd, 2007, 09:53 PM

I dont know it came with the car before I put in the new motor..

xjer88 · March 2nd, 2007, 10:36 PM

Originally Posted by Stangzilla

I dont know it came with the car before I put in the new motor..

Hahahaha, next time ill ask a hatchback owner. :wink

Thanks Stangzilla. Think im just gonna go with the high torque starter and wrap, cheaper and same affects as Mean Greens starter.

Stangzilla · March 2nd, 2007, 10:39 PM

Ahhh your just jealous...

xjer88 · March 2nd, 2007, 10:52 PM

Originally Posted by Stangzilla

Ahhh your just jealous...

Your right notchbacks are the Shiznizzle.

What 347cid kit you running?

Stangzilla · March 2nd, 2007, 11:02 PM

I bought a 347 Street Fighter crate motor with AFR 185 heads from Coast High Performance 450hp..

xjer88 · March 3rd, 2007, 03:00 AM

Originally Posted by Stangzilla

I bought a 347 Street Fighter crate motor with AFR 185 heads from Coast High Performance 450hp..

Nice Setup, im running a Probe kit with Trickflow Top twisted Wedge heads, Built by AMP. 430hp.

Darrell · March 3rd, 2007, 12:23 PM

Originally Posted by xjer88

Ok, I have a slight issue that im sure many of you have dealt with already. When I drive for a while my starter gets heat soaked and doesnt want to turn over the engine. It is a higher compression 347 stroker so i can understand why its having a problem. I have BBK shorty headers. Soooo my question is what do you recommend? I have already got a better battery which seemed to help some, and I have a higher amp alternator on its way. I have a feeling thats not gonna do it. So i was thinking about a new starter. The mean green is an awesome starter from what ive heard, but the price is killer at $300. The other option is to just go with a PMGR(Permanent Magnet Gear-Reduction) Starter from a place like PA Performance or such. And save about $150 over the Green. But my main concern is the Heat Soak. Anybody running a PMGR starter and not have heat soak problems? TIA ---Sam

Buy a Powermaster starter or you can try a 92-93 Mustang starter.

Stangzilla · March 4th, 2007, 03:25 AM

Originally Posted by xjer88

Originally Posted by Stangzilla

I bought a 347 Street Fighter crate motor with AFR 185 heads from Coast High Performance 450hp..

Nice Setup, im running a Probe kit with Trickflow Top twisted Wedge heads, Built by AMP. 430hp.

Thank you.... U 2....

nolife · March 4th, 2007, 11:00 AM

Your starter heat problem may really be just a warn out starter. I had the same problem but it went away with nothing more then replacing mine with a cheapo rebuilt local parts store starter. A standard typical shorty setup should not cause starter heat problems. It would not hurt to wrap your starter but I think you need a new one.

xjer88 · March 4th, 2007, 07:00 PM

Originally Posted by Darrell

Originally Posted by xjer88

Ok, I have a slight issue that im sure many of you have dealt with already. When I drive for a while my starter gets heat soaked and doesnt want to turn over the engine. It is a higher compression 347 stroker so i can understand why its having a problem. I have BBK shorty headers. Soooo my question is what do you recommend? I have already got a better battery which seemed to help some, and I have a higher amp alternator on its way. I have a feeling thats not gonna do it. So i was thinking about a new starter. The mean green is an awesome starter from what ive heard, but the price is killer at $300. The other option is to just go with a PMGR(Permanent Magnet Gear-Reduction) Starter from a place like PA Performance or such. And save about $150 over the Green. But my main concern is the Heat Soak. Anybody running a PMGR starter and not have heat soak problems? TIA ---Sam

Buy a Powermaster starter or you can try a 92-93 Mustang starter.

Powermaster looks like a good investment, and i could run down to Summit and pick one up later this week, along with seats. Thanks for the Tip.

86blkmustang · March 7th, 2007, 10:55 PM

I thought I had a heat problem but come to find out it was just the body and battery ground needed to be cleaned?

March 2nd, 2007, 09:18 PM	#1
xjer88 Newbie Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 37	Starter Question/ Problem (Heat Soak) Ok, I have a slight issue that im sure many of you have dealt with already. When I drive for a while my starter gets heat soaked and doesnt want to turn over the engine. It is a higher compression 347 stroker so i can understand why its having a problem. I have BBK shorty headers. Soooo my question is what do you recommend? I have already got a better battery which seemed to help some, and I have a higher amp alternator on its way. I have a feeling thats not gonna do it. So i was thinking about a new starter. The mean green is an awesome starter from what ive heard, but the price is killer at $300. The other option is to just go with a PMGR(Permanent Magnet Gear-Reduction) Starter from a place like PA Performance or such. And save about $150 over the Green. But my main concern is the Heat Soak. Anybody running a PMGR starter and not have heat soak problems? TIA ---Sam

March 2nd, 2007, 09:26 PM	#2
Stangzilla MM Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: On my way to Baines's house!! Posts: 3,007	Wrap it with heat wrap. I have long tubes in my car and a high torque starter. I have not had to wrap it yet.... I have a 347cid also.. __________________ Rotating The Earth 1320 Feet At A Time!! The very existence of flamethrowers proves that sometime, somewhere, someone said to themselves, “You know, I want to set those people over there on fire, but I’m just not close enough to get the job done.”

March 2nd, 2007, 09:53 PM	#4
Stangzilla MM Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: On my way to Baines's house!! Posts: 3,007	I dont know it came with the car before I put in the new motor.. __________________ Rotating The Earth 1320 Feet At A Time!! The very existence of flamethrowers proves that sometime, somewhere, someone said to themselves, “You know, I want to set those people over there on fire, but I’m just not close enough to get the job done.”

March 2nd, 2007, 10:39 PM	#6
Stangzilla MM Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: On my way to Baines's house!! Posts: 3,007	Ahhh your just jealous... __________________ Rotating The Earth 1320 Feet At A Time!! The very existence of flamethrowers proves that sometime, somewhere, someone said to themselves, “You know, I want to set those people over there on fire, but I’m just not close enough to get the job done.”

March 2nd, 2007, 11:02 PM	#8
Stangzilla MM Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: On my way to Baines's house!! Posts: 3,007	I bought a 347 Street Fighter crate motor with AFR 185 heads from Coast High Performance 450hp.. __________________ Rotating The Earth 1320 Feet At A Time!! The very existence of flamethrowers proves that sometime, somewhere, someone said to themselves, “You know, I want to set those people over there on fire, but I’m just not close enough to get the job done.”

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March 4th, 2007, 11:00 AM	#12
nolife Hardcore Enthusiast Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 1,075	Your starter heat problem may really be just a warn out starter. I had the same problem but it went away with nothing more then replacing mine with a cheapo rebuilt local parts store starter. A standard typical shorty setup should not cause starter heat problems. It would not hurt to wrap your starter but I think you need a new one. __________________ 1991 GT - Original owner, all stock 1988 GT - The project car

March 7th, 2007, 10:55 PM	#14
86blkmustang Regular Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Seaford, Delaware Posts: 104	I thought I had a heat problem but come to find out it was just the body and battery ground needed to be cleaned?

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