Nitrous questions

foxstang · March 13th, 2007, 09:15 PM

Ok what is better for the 5.0's? The plate that goes between the throttle body or something like a shark nozle in the intake tube? I have heard that the plate will cause puddeling in the intake and set you up for a big backfire. have any of you guys heard of that hapening?

Stangzilla · March 13th, 2007, 09:19 PM

The plate that goes in between the upper and lower will not cause the fuel to puddle. If you use the wet kit where the fuel and nitrous nozzles go before the upper intake or throttle body that is when the fuel puddling occurs. Stay away from those types. If you want a wet kit use the plate system that goes between the upper and lower intake.. Or just run a dry kit...

foxstang · March 13th, 2007, 09:21 PM

well i have the BBK SSI intake and i havent found a kit that fits that manifold.

Stangzilla · March 13th, 2007, 09:23 PM

Thats cuz that intake sucks.. Just buy a dry kit and you will be fine..

foxstang · March 13th, 2007, 09:29 PM

man i love the intake. way better that the ported cobra that i had. will i need a tune for the dry kit? I was wanting to get a dyno tune anyways but should i wait till i get the n20 to get the tune?

Stangzilla · March 13th, 2007, 09:40 PM

Well not really if you are running 100hp shot or less you prob wont need a tune.. With 100 shot or less you prob dont even have to retard your timing... If you wait till you get the No2 when you get a tune then you might want to consider the chips that have more than one tune. One for no nitrous and then you flip a little switch and the other tune is for the nitrous..

Stangzilla · March 13th, 2007, 09:41 PM

If you are gonna run 125-hp or more then you have to start taking out timing. and you prob want to get an inline booster fuel pump..

JBIGBOOTSY · March 13th, 2007, 11:13 PM

fogger nozles do a good job. With a fogger its really hard for the cold nitrous and fuel to condense and pool in a hot intake. The spray bars before the plenum are more prone to pooling fuel. With a fogger nozel, at the track, if I hot lap, tll turn my bottle off, and give the engine a little shot of just fuel, to cool off the intake, and I have never had one backfire.

Stangzilla · March 13th, 2007, 11:30 PM

Thats what i said the ones b4 the plenum are more prone to pooling....

JBIGBOOTSY · March 13th, 2007, 11:36 PM

i know, I'm not trying to be the know it all guy, I just wanted to let him know the fogger nozle is OK, they're like $40 and the spray bar plate between upper and lower are expensive.

Stangzilla · March 13th, 2007, 11:49 PM

I hear ya man but I dont know if he knows like the little trick that you do to prevent pooling.. So his safest bet prob is the plate kit or dry kit...

1slo5.0 · March 15th, 2007, 09:07 PM

Originally Posted by Stangzilla

The plate that goes in between the upper and lower will not cause the fuel to puddle. If you use the wet kit where the fuel and nitrous nozzles go before the upper intake or throttle body that is when the fuel puddling occurs. Stay away from those types. If you want a wet kit use the plate system that goes between the upper and lower intake.. Or just run a dry kit...

Right on brotha! I agree.

Smoken 85 · March 16th, 2007, 02:18 PM

What is the best specs to build a motor you plan on running nitos on?
what compression range or does that not matter. This wil be a street car that will be driven hard. It is a carburated car i am going to send the block to a machine shop I would like to increase the cubic inches to as much as possible any suggestions would be appreciated

IcantDo55 · March 16th, 2007, 05:34 PM

Originally Posted by Smoken 85

What is the best specs to build a motor you plan on running nitos on?
what compression range or does that not matter. This wil be a street car that will be driven hard. It is a carburated car i am going to send the block to a machine shop I would like to increase the cubic inches to as much as possible any suggestions would be appreciated

Use a 351 block much stronger and worth the $ Unless you can afford a race block. Stock 5.0 blocks are weak above 450 whp.

N20 likes compression, for a N20 street motor I would go 11.5-1 Good compression and will still run on pump gas. Forged pistons are a MUST and than build the best motor you can afford from there...

IcantDo55 · March 16th, 2007, 05:34 PM

Originally Posted by Smoken 85

What is the best specs to build a motor you plan on running nitos on?
what compression range or does that not matter. This wil be a street car that will be driven hard. It is a carburated car i am going to send the block to a machine shop I would like to increase the cubic inches to as much as possible any suggestions would be appreciated

Use a 351 block much stronger and worth the $ Unless you can afford a race block. Stock 5.0 blocks are weak above 450 whp.

N20 likes compression, for a N20 street motor I would go 11.5-1 Good compression and will still run on pump gas. Forged pistons are a MUST and than build the best motor you can afford from there...

Stangzilla · March 16th, 2007, 11:13 PM

I would not run 11.5:1.. It prob will run on pump gas but the tune has to be perfect.. Plus with that high compression with No2 the chance of detonation is very very high if your tune is not absolutely perfect. i would run 10.5:1.. Thats what I have and it is in my opinion a perfect compression... With 11.5:1 and No2 the cylinder pressure is super high.. If your tune is not perfect good by head gaskets and whatever else..

IcantDo55 · March 16th, 2007, 11:18 PM

Originally Posted by Stangzilla

I would not run 11.5:1.. It prob will run on pump gas but the tune has to be perfect.. Plus with that high compression with No2 the chance of detonation is very very high if your tune is not absolutely perfect. i would run 10.5:1.. Thats what I have and it is in my opinion a perfect compression... With 11.5:1 and No2 the cylinder pressure is super high.. If your tune is not perfect good by head gaskets and whatever else..

He's building the motor for N20....right? If thats the case then go as high as you can and still run 93.

Sounds like you need to meet a good tuner. This is a 11.5-1 street driven car I own that has not had any problems.

Build it right and tune it right and all will be fine. Cheep out on somthing you will pay.

Stangzilla · March 16th, 2007, 11:23 PM

Dude 10.5:1 is not cheaping out on anything.. Its just safer.. What makes you say I need to meet a good tuner?! Oh yeah you know who I know and where I go.. I had my car with a Coast High Performance 347cid Street Fighter crate motor with Anderson PMS tuned by Anderson Ford Motorsport.. It dont get any better than that bro...

Tony_90fox · March 17th, 2007, 12:00 AM

Sure ya can Stang, lemme tune her!

Stangzilla · March 17th, 2007, 01:59 AM

Originally Posted by Tony_90fox

Sure ya can Stang, lemme tune her!

March 13th, 2007, 09:15 PM	#1
foxstang Regular Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 100 iTrader: 0 reviews	Nitrous questions Ok what is better for the 5.0's? The plate that goes between the throttle body or something like a shark nozle in the intake tube? I have heard that the plate will cause puddeling in the intake and set you up for a big backfire. have any of you guys heard of that hapening? __________________ 89' 306 W/ Edelbrock performer 5.0 heads, BBK SSI intake, F-303 cam, 75mm MAF, 75mm TB, 30lb injectors, 255lph fuel pump, BBK afpr, BBK shorty headers, Off road X-Pipe, Flowbastards, and 3.73 gears.

March 13th, 2007, 09:19 PM	#2
Stangzilla MM Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: On my way to Baines's house!! Posts: 3,298 iTrader: 0 reviews	The plate that goes in between the upper and lower will not cause the fuel to puddle. If you use the wet kit where the fuel and nitrous nozzles go before the upper intake or throttle body that is when the fuel puddling occurs. Stay away from those types. If you want a wet kit use the plate system that goes between the upper and lower intake.. Or just run a dry kit... __________________ Rotating The Earth 1320 Feet At A Time!! Today, I found out that when I masturbate at night while watching internet porn I cast a huge shadow on the curtain and the entire street is able to see it.

March 13th, 2007, 09:21 PM	#3
foxstang Regular Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 100 iTrader: 0 reviews	well i have the BBK SSI intake and i havent found a kit that fits that manifold. __________________ 89' 306 W/ Edelbrock performer 5.0 heads, BBK SSI intake, F-303 cam, 75mm MAF, 75mm TB, 30lb injectors, 255lph fuel pump, BBK afpr, BBK shorty headers, Off road X-Pipe, Flowbastards, and 3.73 gears.

March 13th, 2007, 09:23 PM	#4
Stangzilla MM Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: On my way to Baines's house!! Posts: 3,298 iTrader: 0 reviews	Thats cuz that intake sucks.. Just buy a dry kit and you will be fine.. __________________ Rotating The Earth 1320 Feet At A Time!! Today, I found out that when I masturbate at night while watching internet porn I cast a huge shadow on the curtain and the entire street is able to see it.

March 13th, 2007, 09:29 PM	#5
foxstang Regular Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 100 iTrader: 0 reviews	man i love the intake. way better that the ported cobra that i had. will i need a tune for the dry kit? I was wanting to get a dyno tune anyways but should i wait till i get the n20 to get the tune? __________________ 89' 306 W/ Edelbrock performer 5.0 heads, BBK SSI intake, F-303 cam, 75mm MAF, 75mm TB, 30lb injectors, 255lph fuel pump, BBK afpr, BBK shorty headers, Off road X-Pipe, Flowbastards, and 3.73 gears.

March 13th, 2007, 09:40 PM	#6
Stangzilla MM Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: On my way to Baines's house!! Posts: 3,298 iTrader: 0 reviews	Well not really if you are running 100hp shot or less you prob wont need a tune.. With 100 shot or less you prob dont even have to retard your timing... If you wait till you get the No2 when you get a tune then you might want to consider the chips that have more than one tune. One for no nitrous and then you flip a little switch and the other tune is for the nitrous.. __________________ Rotating The Earth 1320 Feet At A Time!! Today, I found out that when I masturbate at night while watching internet porn I cast a huge shadow on the curtain and the entire street is able to see it.

March 13th, 2007, 09:41 PM	#7
Stangzilla MM Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: On my way to Baines's house!! Posts: 3,298 iTrader: 0 reviews	If you are gonna run 125-hp or more then you have to start taking out timing. and you prob want to get an inline booster fuel pump.. __________________ Rotating The Earth 1320 Feet At A Time!! Today, I found out that when I masturbate at night while watching internet porn I cast a huge shadow on the curtain and the entire street is able to see it.

March 13th, 2007, 11:13 PM	#8
JBIGBOOTSY MM Fanatic 1990 LX hatch Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Hobart Indiana Posts: 4,391 iTrader: 0 reviews	fogger nozles do a good job. With a fogger its really hard for the cold nitrous and fuel to condense and pool in a hot intake. The spray bars before the plenum are more prone to pooling fuel. With a fogger nozel, at the track, if I hot lap, tll turn my bottle off, and give the engine a little shot of just fuel, to cool off the intake, and I have never had one backfire. __________________ Bolt-on Abraham Lincoln Log motor. With extra wiring.

March 13th, 2007, 11:30 PM	#9
Stangzilla MM Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: On my way to Baines's house!! Posts: 3,298 iTrader: 0 reviews	Thats what i said the ones b4 the plenum are more prone to pooling.... __________________ Rotating The Earth 1320 Feet At A Time!! Today, I found out that when I masturbate at night while watching internet porn I cast a huge shadow on the curtain and the entire street is able to see it.

March 13th, 2007, 11:36 PM	#10
JBIGBOOTSY MM Fanatic 1990 LX hatch Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Hobart Indiana Posts: 4,391 iTrader: 0 reviews	i know, I'm not trying to be the know it all guy, I just wanted to let him know the fogger nozle is OK, they're like $40 and the spray bar plate between upper and lower are expensive. __________________ Bolt-on Abraham Lincoln Log motor. With extra wiring.

March 13th, 2007, 11:49 PM	#11
Stangzilla MM Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: On my way to Baines's house!! Posts: 3,298 iTrader: 0 reviews	I hear ya man but I dont know if he knows like the little trick that you do to prevent pooling.. So his safest bet prob is the plate kit or dry kit... __________________ Rotating The Earth 1320 Feet At A Time!! Today, I found out that when I masturbate at night while watching internet porn I cast a huge shadow on the curtain and the entire street is able to see it.

March 16th, 2007, 02:18 PM	#13
Smoken 85 Newbie Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 44 iTrader: 0 reviews	What is the best specs to build a motor you plan on running nitos on? what compression range or does that not matter. This wil be a street car that will be driven hard. It is a carburated car i am going to send the block to a machine shop I would like to increase the cubic inches to as much as possible any suggestions would be appreciated

March 16th, 2007, 11:13 PM	#16
Stangzilla MM Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: On my way to Baines's house!! Posts: 3,298 iTrader: 0 reviews	I would not run 11.5:1.. It prob will run on pump gas but the tune has to be perfect.. Plus with that high compression with No2 the chance of detonation is very very high if your tune is not absolutely perfect. i would run 10.5:1.. Thats what I have and it is in my opinion a perfect compression... With 11.5:1 and No2 the cylinder pressure is super high.. If your tune is not perfect good by head gaskets and whatever else.. __________________ Rotating The Earth 1320 Feet At A Time!! Today, I found out that when I masturbate at night while watching internet porn I cast a huge shadow on the curtain and the entire street is able to see it.

March 16th, 2007, 11:23 PM	#18
Stangzilla MM Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: On my way to Baines's house!! Posts: 3,298 iTrader: 0 reviews	Dude 10.5:1 is not cheaping out on anything.. Its just safer.. What makes you say I need to meet a good tuner?! Oh yeah you know who I know and where I go.. I had my car with a Coast High Performance 347cid Street Fighter crate motor with Anderson PMS tuned by Anderson Ford Motorsport.. It dont get any better than that bro... __________________ Rotating The Earth 1320 Feet At A Time!! Today, I found out that when I masturbate at night while watching internet porn I cast a huge shadow on the curtain and the entire street is able to see it.

March 17th, 2007, 12:00 AM	#19
Tony_90fox Banned Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Bowling Green, KY Posts: 3,803 iTrader: 0 reviews	Sure ya can Stang, lemme tune her! __________________ [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC] [B][U]MM Sapper Squad[/U][/B] [QUOTE=Regency 2007;1676187]MSO's stupidity has never stopped amazing me since the day he joined this forum.[/QUOTE]

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