[GTXRacing]

Ok, I notice some people in here worrying about sound and not performance. I understand a lot of people want to show off there ride and let those civics know unless they have a turbo, they aint beatin you but my honest opinion, if you looking for sound go with Flowmasters 40, Thunder, 60 series straight pipe. No X or H or criss cross whatever pipe and guess what, performance comes with it. ALSO< IF YOU ARE LOOKING FOR MORE SOUND, GO GRAB YOU A COUPLE GLASSPACKS/CHERRY BOMBS!!! and have someone weld them in you will have the loudest dag um exhaust out.

[AtlanticBlue99]

The reason nobody cares about performance when dealing with muffled cars is because all aftermarket muffler companies for the mustangs offer kits within 1-3 hp of each other. Magnaflow flows better than flowmaster in independent testing, but many people like the flowmaster sound. The power comes from long tube headers and no catalytic converters. The sound, not power, comes from mufflers for street cars.

[GTXRacing]

Yeah my point that's what im talking about. I can't stand those measly bee sounds, constent fart noises. But I didn't know mags flow better than flows i thought it was the other way around.

[AtlanticBlue99]

yeah the magnaflows flow better than flowmasters by somthing like 1-2 hp or something on stock 4.6L's and more on modified 4.6L's. i believe mm&ff did a write up on it a while back. there were 3 or 4 big independent tests though.

[GTXRacing]

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[jorstang]

Originally Posted by GTXRacing Ok, I notice some people in here worrying about sound and not performance. I understand a lot of people want to show off there ride and let those civics know unless they have a turbo, they aint beatin you but my honest opinion, if you looking for sound go with Flowmasters 40, Thunder, 60 series straight pipe. No X or H or criss cross whatever pipe and guess what, performance comes with it. ALSO< IF YOU ARE LOOKING FOR MORE SOUND, GO GRAB YOU A COUPLE GLASSPACKS/CHERRY BOMBS!!! and have someone weld them in you will have the loudest dag um exhaust out.

And the thing about straight pipes is yes, they are loud and sound good to some people, but you are only getting the sound of 4 cylinders out of each tail pipe. So the purpose of the x or h pipe is to combine the two flows which gives the deep throaty sound of all 8 cylinders together. I just put on a UPR off road x-pipe and even with the stock mufflers and tails it sounds bad ass!

[GTXRacing]

Originally Posted by jorstang Originally Posted by GTXRacing Ok, I notice some people in here worrying about sound and not performance. I understand a lot of people want to show off there ride and let those civics know unless they have a turbo, they aint beatin you but my honest opinion, if you looking for sound go with Flowmasters 40, Thunder, 60 series straight pipe. No X or H or criss cross whatever pipe and guess what, performance comes with it. ALSO< IF YOU ARE LOOKING FOR MORE SOUND, GO GRAB YOU A COUPLE GLASSPACKS/CHERRY BOMBS!!! and have someone weld them in you will have the loudest dag um exhaust out. And the thing about straight pipes is yes, they are loud and sound good to some people, but you are only getting the sound of 4 cylinders out of each tail pipe. So the purpose of the x or h pipe is to combine the two flows which gives the deep throaty sound of all 8 cylinders together. I just put on a UPR off road x-pipe and even with the stock mufflers and tails it sounds bad ass!

Totally not true, unless you bought your pipes from walmart, straight pipes won't sound like two 4 cylinders on each side. I have straight pipe flowmasters and they don't sound like dual 4 cylinders LOL, they actually sound grungy, throaty, ready to kick someone's ass to the bone. Also the stock sets I had sounded almost as great. Also, X and H pipes are not made to combine noise, used for the flow of the exhaust which does play a role in sound but that's not the concept of X and H pipes. LOL, if you listen to one pipe on mine car, it doesn't sound like a 4 cylinder, both sides are just as grungy as the other with that pretty left-right-left idle growl. :wink

If the x and h pipes are to combine the two 4 cylinders on each side, you're pratically getting a 6 cylider sound from both sides LOL. Just joking because I know for a fact everytime I hear this Saturn Ion car over here and I crank mine up, you tell me who's pissing pants LOLOL

[Drgnracin72]

if im correct, i may not be but the xpipe is to combine the exhaust pulses to move them out free 'er. giving you better flow and better performance! please tell me if i am wrong!

[GTXRacing]

Originally Posted by drgnracin72 if im correct, i may not be but the xpipe is to combine the exhaust pulses to move them out free 'er. giving you better flow and better performance! please tell me if i am wrong!

After reading on the x and h pipes, you are very right. The X pipe (Criss Crosses) the exhaust gases for compesation of the backpressure to allow better flow like you said. The H pipe is like you said as well but that little pipe in the center "Holds" gases then releases in a quick process to flow better as well offroad.


LOLOLOL, If X and H pipes were ony to produce sounds, i'd just buy a couple of tubas and shove em right at the header LOLOL.

[jorstang]

No, straight pipes on a V8 would not sound like a honda on each side...the motor itself is different. But if you have pipes going from each header back with no cross over, each pipe would only have exhaust from one side of the motor....4 cylinders. And I also agree that the purpose of an x pipe is not for sound, but it is for moving air....which is exactly what sound and noise is. I am saying this because a friend of mine took his F-150 to an exhaust shop asking them to put on straight pipes from the headers. They said they are great for getting rid of back-pressure and reducing air restriction, but lose a lot of sound quality despite being super loud. And the cars that I have heard with straight pipes from the headers sound pretty raspy and have somewhat of a higher pitch....and yes are really loud. Obviously a good set of flowmasters would help that out, but from what I know and what these exhaust guys say, an x or h pipe is the way to go for top performance and overall sound quality.

[GTXRacing]

Originally Posted by jorstang No, straight pipes on a V8 would not sound like a honda on each side...the motor itself is different. But if you have pipes going from each header back with no cross over, each pipe would only have exhaust from one side of the motor....4 cylinders. And I also agree that the purpose of an x pipe is not for sound, but it is for moving air....which is exactly what sound and noise is. I am saying this because a friend of mine took his F-150 to an exhaust shop asking them to put on straight pipes from the headers. They said they are great for getting rid of back-pressure and reducing air restriction, but lose a lot of sound quality despite being super loud. And the cars that I have heard with straight pipes from the headers sound pretty raspy and have somewhat of a higher pitch....and yes are really loud. Obviously a good set of flowmasters would help that out, but from what I know and what these exhaust guys say, an x or h pipe is the way to go for top performance and overall sound quality.

You're absolutly right , Yeah since I will be registering my car in this small town called Greenville, Texas I don't have to worry about emissions so yeah off with my cats and i'd might get some x or h pipe me self . But hey if you want to hear a mustang sound like a honda, go to the garage and just browse around, there's a stang with massive fart cannons and all ricey. Even has a mismatched wrong size spoiler or the back, lowered, and has those blinking neons and blue lights.

[jorstang]

Where is this riced out mustang you are talking about? I can't stand it when people put huge wings and neon lights on a mustang! Lowering a stang is one thing....the newer styles need to be, but when people put all those graphics and crap on a muscle car, I just have to shake my head.
Anyway, I still have my stock cat-back system on my new x-pipe and was wondering what I should go with. I've heard good things about flowmaster 40's as well as magnaflows, but someone said magnaflows tend to be sort of quiet. I want it to be loud, but I want it to sound good too you know. Any suggestions.

[GTXRacing]

If I were you, get flowmasters dual straight pipes. Great, grumbly, growly, low idle left-right-left growl. When you gun it, Talk about someone will look, somone will know. :wink

Here's that little riceroni stang, check out the pics. http://www.moddedmustangs.com/forums...vehicle&CID=24

You'll see he has a wing that is sooooo off and wack looking. It's so small it could fit on a Kia. The body kit looks ok, but he needs to rid off the stickers and that 10" spoiler bad. The JDM ebay looking front kit needs to be changed. Looks like it was ripped and chopped for the stang. Also, those fart cannons MUST GO!!!! I can imagine a tiger growl and bumble bees in one area, my god it's anooying to here those cannons but now it's on a muscle car??????????????? Im sorta hatin on the right... Nice concept..WRONG CAR!!!!!!!! It's a v6 though but still