white smoke

zero · March 19th, 2007, 08:24 PM

i readjusted my valve lash, only to realize that ive got positive stop rockers.. stupid me.. and if it wasnt all the way down.. the nuts would come loose and slip a rocker off the valve. i consider myself lucky i didnt loose that valve down in the cylinder. i would have cried. now, the last two times i adjustted my valve lash, i had white smoke coming out of my pipes for about a day. i didnt notice it after that, but ive still got the popping coming from the left bank when the car comes up to temperature and then it dies. so heres my guess.. but i dont want to tear into the engine if for some reason im wrong.
head gasket? when the coolant system pressurizes at 175 or 180 whichever my thermostat opens at.. its spitting water into my #7 and 8 cylinders. however i heard that if i had water in the cylinders the spark plugs would burst. and ive not seen any of that so far. ive also heard that i could have a vaccum leak, but in my little mind, thermal expansion would close a hole, not open one. so... i need help. yet again.

Stangzilla · March 19th, 2007, 09:08 PM

Well Not saying it wont happen as far as the plugs bursting but I would think they would foul because of the water.. Well it sounds like to me you need to get in there and change those gaskets.. I would do both and get those heads checked for straightness... trueness whatever they call it..

zero · March 19th, 2007, 09:10 PM

how often do brand new iron heads warp? im just being a girl about changing the gaskets or anything in there.. so the plugs wont necisserily break.. but they will foul out? lucky for me i dont have any fouled plugs.

Racinjason81 · March 19th, 2007, 09:17 PM

either a head gasket or intake gasket

zero · March 19th, 2007, 09:23 PM

why do you say intake gasket?

Stangzilla · March 19th, 2007, 09:24 PM

Originally Posted by zero

how often do brand new iron heads warp? im just being a girl about changing the gaskets or anything in there.. so the plugs wont necisserily break.. but they will foul out? lucky for me i dont have any fouled plugs.

Not often does it happen to iron heads but nothing like puttin it all back together and finding out you have head trouble...

zero · March 19th, 2007, 09:24 PM

and how would i know for sure? im thinking i wont be able to visibly see my problem.. unless theres a pool of coolant on the top of the block.

Stangzilla · March 19th, 2007, 09:29 PM

Well if its a intake gasket I would think you would get water in your oil because there is oil up there in that lifter valley..

zero · March 19th, 2007, 09:30 PM

ill go look. ill only be able to tell when i drain the oil though huh

zero · March 19th, 2007, 09:41 PM

do you think that cracking my intake manifold could cause all that? i over heated the car once.. way over 250 and its an aluminum manifold. and would i be able to see if it was? and as far as i recall, last time i drained the oil (last week) there wasnt water in it.

Stangzilla · March 19th, 2007, 09:48 PM

Well its possible but that would not give you the white smoke. Give the intake a good lookin over. But I think you are gonna have to change those head gaskets though.. + you are gonna have to replace the intake gaskets when you do the heads anyway.. Bite the bullet bro and do them...

zero · March 19th, 2007, 09:50 PM

yeah, you guys are probably right.. i was just hoping maybe i was wrong.

88LSC · March 19th, 2007, 09:54 PM

you can just pull the dip stick and if there's water in there it will be milky.but since it's just the two cylinders you most likley do have a bad head gasket.do a compression test first just to make sure.

zero · March 19th, 2007, 09:57 PM

i did one, and thats why im having such a problem, my lowest cyl was 145psi and my highest was 160. i dont recall those two cylinders.. but that was another thing that confused me... if my head gasket was bad, wouldnt it fail the compression test?

88LSC · March 19th, 2007, 10:01 PM

Originally Posted by zero

i did one, and thats why im having such a problem, my lowest cyl was 145psi and my highest was 160. i dont recall those two cylinders.. but that was another thing that confused me... if my head gasket was bad, wouldnt it fail the compression test?

yes it would fail,so I would then try a leak down test next.

zero · March 19th, 2007, 10:02 PM

explain that please

88LSC · March 19th, 2007, 10:03 PM

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leak-down_tester

mikebert · March 19th, 2007, 10:06 PM

White smoke means coolant, period. Stop being a girl about it and tear stuff down. It sucks, but that's where you are. It takes less time to pull that off, on a carb engine, than we've spent talking here and on your last thread.

zero · March 19th, 2007, 10:06 PM

crap
that looks expensive. but it will tell me what i need to know about each cylinder.. and im guessing it had to be done at top or bottom dead center for each cylinder.

zero · March 19th, 2007, 10:08 PM

hahah yeah.. i know. im just delaying the inevitable.

March 19th, 2007, 08:24 PM	#1
zero Regular Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: persian gulf Posts: 253 iTrader: 0 reviews	white smoke i readjusted my valve lash, only to realize that ive got positive stop rockers.. stupid me.. and if it wasnt all the way down.. the nuts would come loose and slip a rocker off the valve. i consider myself lucky i didnt loose that valve down in the cylinder. i would have cried. now, the last two times i adjustted my valve lash, i had white smoke coming out of my pipes for about a day. i didnt notice it after that, but ive still got the popping coming from the left bank when the car comes up to temperature and then it dies. so heres my guess.. but i dont want to tear into the engine if for some reason im wrong. head gasket? when the coolant system pressurizes at 175 or 180 whichever my thermostat opens at.. its spitting water into my #7 and 8 cylinders. however i heard that if i had water in the cylinders the spark plugs would burst. and ive not seen any of that so far. ive also heard that i could have a vaccum leak, but in my little mind, thermal expansion would close a hole, not open one. so... i need help. yet again. __________________ 92 lx 351W w/ 60 overbore holley 600cfm carb weiand stealth dual plane intake 240/246@.510 cam bbk long tube headders msd coil 5 lug axle conversion 3.55 gears mach1 style 17" rims

March 19th, 2007, 09:08 PM	#2
Stangzilla MM Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: On my way to Baines's house!! Posts: 3,298 iTrader: 0 reviews	Well Not saying it wont happen as far as the plugs bursting but I would think they would foul because of the water.. Well it sounds like to me you need to get in there and change those gaskets.. I would do both and get those heads checked for straightness... trueness whatever they call it.. __________________ Rotating The Earth 1320 Feet At A Time!! Today, I found out that when I masturbate at night while watching internet porn I cast a huge shadow on the curtain and the entire street is able to see it.

March 19th, 2007, 09:10 PM	#3
zero Regular Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: persian gulf Posts: 253 iTrader: 0 reviews	how often do brand new iron heads warp? im just being a girl about changing the gaskets or anything in there.. so the plugs wont necisserily break.. but they will foul out? lucky for me i dont have any fouled plugs. __________________ 92 lx 351W w/ 60 overbore holley 600cfm carb weiand stealth dual plane intake 240/246@.510 cam bbk long tube headders msd coil 5 lug axle conversion 3.55 gears mach1 style 17" rims

March 19th, 2007, 09:17 PM	#4
Racinjason81 Hardcore Enthusiast Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: New jersey Posts: 1,559 iTrader: 0 reviews	either a head gasket or intake gasket __________________ Heres a real funny video youtube.com/watch?v=ojB7KkaR03I VTEC stands for Very Torqueless Economy Car Honda stands for Hold On Not Done Accelerating 1991 LX 5.0 H/B(T-70 turbo coming soon)

March 19th, 2007, 09:23 PM	#5
zero Regular Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: persian gulf Posts: 253 iTrader: 0 reviews	why do you say intake gasket? __________________ 92 lx 351W w/ 60 overbore holley 600cfm carb weiand stealth dual plane intake 240/246@.510 cam bbk long tube headders msd coil 5 lug axle conversion 3.55 gears mach1 style 17" rims

March 19th, 2007, 09:24 PM	#7
zero Regular Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: persian gulf Posts: 253 iTrader: 0 reviews	and how would i know for sure? im thinking i wont be able to visibly see my problem.. unless theres a pool of coolant on the top of the block. __________________ 92 lx 351W w/ 60 overbore holley 600cfm carb weiand stealth dual plane intake 240/246@.510 cam bbk long tube headders msd coil 5 lug axle conversion 3.55 gears mach1 style 17" rims

March 19th, 2007, 09:29 PM	#8
Stangzilla MM Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: On my way to Baines's house!! Posts: 3,298 iTrader: 0 reviews	Well if its a intake gasket I would think you would get water in your oil because there is oil up there in that lifter valley.. __________________ Rotating The Earth 1320 Feet At A Time!! Today, I found out that when I masturbate at night while watching internet porn I cast a huge shadow on the curtain and the entire street is able to see it.

March 19th, 2007, 09:30 PM	#9
zero Regular Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: persian gulf Posts: 253 iTrader: 0 reviews	ill go look. ill only be able to tell when i drain the oil though huh __________________ 92 lx 351W w/ 60 overbore holley 600cfm carb weiand stealth dual plane intake 240/246@.510 cam bbk long tube headders msd coil 5 lug axle conversion 3.55 gears mach1 style 17" rims

March 19th, 2007, 09:41 PM	#10
zero Regular Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: persian gulf Posts: 253 iTrader: 0 reviews	do you think that cracking my intake manifold could cause all that? i over heated the car once.. way over 250 and its an aluminum manifold. and would i be able to see if it was? and as far as i recall, last time i drained the oil (last week) there wasnt water in it. __________________ 92 lx 351W w/ 60 overbore holley 600cfm carb weiand stealth dual plane intake 240/246@.510 cam bbk long tube headders msd coil 5 lug axle conversion 3.55 gears mach1 style 17" rims

March 19th, 2007, 09:48 PM	#11
Stangzilla MM Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: On my way to Baines's house!! Posts: 3,298 iTrader: 0 reviews	Well its possible but that would not give you the white smoke. Give the intake a good lookin over. But I think you are gonna have to change those head gaskets though.. + you are gonna have to replace the intake gaskets when you do the heads anyway.. Bite the bullet bro and do them... __________________ Rotating The Earth 1320 Feet At A Time!! Today, I found out that when I masturbate at night while watching internet porn I cast a huge shadow on the curtain and the entire street is able to see it.

March 19th, 2007, 09:50 PM	#12
zero Regular Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: persian gulf Posts: 253 iTrader: 0 reviews	yeah, you guys are probably right.. i was just hoping maybe i was wrong. __________________ 92 lx 351W w/ 60 overbore holley 600cfm carb weiand stealth dual plane intake 240/246@.510 cam bbk long tube headders msd coil 5 lug axle conversion 3.55 gears mach1 style 17" rims

March 19th, 2007, 09:54 PM	#13
88LSC Regular Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Lake Geneva, WI Posts: 58 iTrader: 0 reviews	you can just pull the dip stick and if there's water in there it will be milky.but since it's just the two cylinders you most likley do have a bad head gasket.do a compression test first just to make sure.

March 19th, 2007, 09:57 PM	#14
zero Regular Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: persian gulf Posts: 253 iTrader: 0 reviews	i did one, and thats why im having such a problem, my lowest cyl was 145psi and my highest was 160. i dont recall those two cylinders.. but that was another thing that confused me... if my head gasket was bad, wouldnt it fail the compression test? __________________ 92 lx 351W w/ 60 overbore holley 600cfm carb weiand stealth dual plane intake 240/246@.510 cam bbk long tube headders msd coil 5 lug axle conversion 3.55 gears mach1 style 17" rims

March 19th, 2007, 10:02 PM	#16
zero Regular Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: persian gulf Posts: 253 iTrader: 0 reviews	explain that please __________________ 92 lx 351W w/ 60 overbore holley 600cfm carb weiand stealth dual plane intake 240/246@.510 cam bbk long tube headders msd coil 5 lug axle conversion 3.55 gears mach1 style 17" rims

March 19th, 2007, 10:03 PM	#17
88LSC Regular Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Lake Geneva, WI Posts: 58 iTrader: 0 reviews	http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leak-down_tester

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March 19th, 2007, 10:06 PM	#18
mikebert Enthusiast Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Augusta, GA Posts: 906 iTrader: 0 reviews	White smoke means coolant, period. Stop being a girl about it and tear stuff down. It sucks, but that's where you are. It takes less time to pull that off, on a carb engine, than we've spent talking here and on your last thread.

March 19th, 2007, 10:08 PM	#20
zero Regular Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: persian gulf Posts: 253 iTrader: 0 reviews	hahah yeah.. i know. im just delaying the inevitable. __________________ 92 lx 351W w/ 60 overbore holley 600cfm carb weiand stealth dual plane intake 240/246@.510 cam bbk long tube headders msd coil 5 lug axle conversion 3.55 gears mach1 style 17" rims

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