coolant leaking here i think.

YNOT · March 21st, 2007, 07:35 PM

so does the coolant run from the water pump thru the timing case into the block? it looks like the gasket between the block and the timing casing is leaking a few drops of coolant?

also am i stupid to not change out the water pump while i'm doing that? the water pump is fine, but most likely stock still.

1989 gt 5.0 5-speed (stock for now)

patwrecked · March 21st, 2007, 07:44 PM

if your car is stock, i would suggest changing all the hoses, and changing coolent. if you have the money yes get a hi flow water pump, but dont get an electric water pump, they wont be as efficient.

SALIV8 · March 21st, 2007, 09:54 PM

The coolant does not go into the timing chain's cover.

YNOT · March 21st, 2007, 10:03 PM

Can i just go with a Summit Racing hi-flow water pump they are only $67.

I had been looking for the leak right after driving it, so the coolant drops were blown all over from the wind. Then I guess it is the water pump gasket.

I'll do the a/c delete, hi-flow water pump, 180* thermostat (i think there is a 160* in), and a coolant change.

5literJeff · March 21st, 2007, 10:15 PM

Make sure you check the gasket coming off the intake manifold where the thermostat is also. Sometimes those leak and its hard to see if its the water pump or that cause the coolant runs down the side of the water pump. A dead giveaway of that (or the hose) leaking is coolant puddling on top of the timing chain housing behind the water pump.

Racinjason81 · March 21st, 2007, 10:20 PM

if you get a W/P and use a serp. belt use a reverse rotation pump

YNOT · March 21st, 2007, 10:29 PM

Originally Posted by 5literJeff

Make sure you check the gasket coming off the intake manifold where the thermostat is also. Sometimes those leak and its hard to see if its the water pump or that cause the coolant runs down the side of the water pump. A dead giveaway of that (or the hose) leaking is coolant puddling on top of the timing chain housing behind the water pump.

Yeah I did see a tiny puddle on top of the timing case.

Stangzilla · March 21st, 2007, 11:24 PM

Originally Posted by YNOT

so does the coolant run from the water pump thru the timing case into the block? it looks like the gasket between the block and the timing casing is leaking a few drops of coolant?

also am i stupid to not change out the water pump while i'm doing that? the water pump is fine, but most likely stock still.

1989 gt 5.0 5-speed (stock for now)

It could be coming from where you said but also could be coming from the pump it self.. Replace the pump too...

YNOT · March 22nd, 2007, 05:09 AM

Originally Posted by Racinjason81

if you get a W/P and use a serp. belt use a reverse rotation pump

the summit one is counterclockwise rotation.

IcantDo55 · March 22nd, 2007, 08:10 AM

Originally Posted by SALIV8

The coolant does not go into the timing chain's cover.

No! It does. It flows through the cover to the block and is common to have a timing cover to block gasket fail. I just did one last week on my 5.0 Bronco.

SBC don't have coolant through the timing cover, SBF do.

IcantDo55 · March 22nd, 2007, 08:16 AM

The gasket on the far right is the timing cover gasket and the two round holes in there are your coolant passages, thats your problem.

mikebert · March 22nd, 2007, 12:38 PM

Originally Posted by IcantDo55

Originally Posted by SALIV8

The coolant does not go into the timing chain's cover.

No! It does. It flows through the cover to the block and is common to have a timing cover to block gasket fail. I just did one last week on my 5.0 Bronco.

SBC don't have coolant through the timing cover, SBF do.

Thank you, I could have sworn that the timing cover had coolant passages. I thought maybe I was going insane and I'm not at home to check a timing cover gasket. I kinda wondered how the water pump sat on one side of the timing chain cover and magically pushed water around the the block.

YNOT · March 22nd, 2007, 02:56 PM

Thanks everyone, I have a Chitons Manual in the mail. So it that water pump ok?

GTXRacing · March 22nd, 2007, 03:07 PM

Honestly, from what I've heard, those summit cheapy but working water pumps are only for your stock motors, if you plan on power, you might want to invest into another one. Might cost ya more but better for your engine too.

Now that's what I heard, not official since I haven't done it yet but hell my stock w/p does great for what I have.

mikebert · March 22nd, 2007, 03:07 PM

Originally Posted by YNOT

Thanks everyone, I have a Chitons Manual in the mail. So it that water pump ok?

Don't know, the water pump could be on the way out. Technically, you can take the timing cover off and change the cover to block gasket without removing the water pump, but I would go ahead and change the pump if I didn't know how old it was.

Stangzilla · March 22nd, 2007, 03:59 PM

Originally Posted by GTXRacing

Honestly, from what I've heard, those summit cheapy but working water pumps are only for your stock motors, if you plan on power, you might want to invest into another one. Might cost ya more but better for your engine too.

Now that's what I heard, not official since I haven't done it yet but hell my stock w/p does great for what I have.

Summit sells a high volume water pump. I have one on my 347 it works fine. They claim it flows 30% more than stock. I also put in a high flow Moroso 180 degree thermostat to aid in the flow of the high flow water pump..

GTXRacing · March 22nd, 2007, 05:59 PM

Originally Posted by Stangzilla

Originally Posted by GTXRacing

Honestly, from what I've heard, those summit cheapy but working water pumps are only for your stock motors, if you plan on power, you might want to invest into another one. Might cost ya more but better for your engine too.

Now that's what I heard, not official since I haven't done it yet but hell my stock w/p does great for what I have.

Summit sells a high volume water pump. I have one on my 347 it works fine. They claim it flows 30% more than stock. I also put in a high flow Moroso 180 degree thermostat to aid in the flow of the high flow water pump..

Oh ok well there's your answer dude. Stangzilla, how far are you from Texas?

YNOT · March 22nd, 2007, 07:32 PM

i already have a 180* thermostat but it isn't a high flow, should i not waste my time putting it in unless it is a high flow?

Stangzilla · March 22nd, 2007, 08:30 PM

Well it helps if you have a high flow water pump to have a high flow thermostat as well.. Its like 10 bucks.. Get it..

Stangzilla · March 22nd, 2007, 08:31 PM

Originally Posted by GTXRacing

Originally Posted by Stangzilla

Originally Posted by GTXRacing

Honestly, from what I've heard, those summit cheapy but working water pumps are only for your stock motors, if you plan on power, you might want to invest into another one. Might cost ya more but better for your engine too.

Now that's what I heard, not official since I haven't done it yet but hell my stock w/p does great for what I have.

Summit sells a high volume water pump. I have one on my 347 it works fine. They claim it flows 30% more than stock. I also put in a high flow Moroso 180 degree thermostat to aid in the flow of the high flow water pump..

Oh ok well there's your answer dude. Stangzilla, how far are you from Texas?

Too far bro I live in Upstate NY... If you ever come to NY let me know...

March 21st, 2007, 07:35 PM	#1
YNOT Regular 1989 GT Hatch Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 227 iTrader: 0 reviews	coolant leaking here i think. so does the coolant run from the water pump thru the timing case into the block? it looks like the gasket between the block and the timing casing is leaking a few drops of coolant? also am i stupid to not change out the water pump while i'm doing that? the water pump is fine, but most likely stock still. 1989 gt 5.0 5-speed (stock for now)

March 21st, 2007, 10:20 PM	#6
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YNOT Regular 1989 GT Hatch Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 227 iTrader: 0 reviews	Can i just go with a Summit Racing hi-flow water pump they are only $67. I had been looking for the leak right after driving it, so the coolant drops were blown all over from the wind. Then I guess it is the water pump gasket. I'll do the a/c delete, hi-flow water pump, 180* thermostat (i think there is a 160* in), and a coolant change.

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5literJeff Regular Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Blue Ridge, South Carolina Posts: 260 iTrader: 0 reviews	Make sure you check the gasket coming off the intake manifold where the thermostat is also. Sometimes those leak and its hard to see if its the water pump or that cause the coolant runs down the side of the water pump. A dead giveaway of that (or the hose) leaking is coolant puddling on top of the timing chain housing behind the water pump.

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YNOT Regular 1989 GT Hatch Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 227 iTrader: 0 reviews	Thanks everyone, I have a Chitons Manual in the mail. So it that water pump ok?

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YNOT Regular 1989 GT Hatch Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 227 iTrader: 0 reviews	i already have a 180* thermostat but it isn't a high flow, should i not waste my time putting it in unless it is a high flow?

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