Deleting A/C and smog

Tony_90fox · March 21st, 2007, 11:09 PM

When deleting both of those, do you have to relocate the power steering? And if so, do you have to buy some kind of bracket?

mikebert · March 21st, 2007, 11:22 PM

I believe you can get kits that just bolt pulleys into the locations of the smog pump and A/C.

However, for cars that didn't come with AC, the power steering pump is in a different place. So if you have seen kits with complete brakcets, it's going to be a setup like you never had A/C, as opposed to a placeholder pulley.

Racinjason81 · March 21st, 2007, 11:25 PM

no not neccesarily if you use a march a/c eliminator the P/S stay where it is and if you use a air pump idler

Stangzilla · March 21st, 2007, 11:35 PM

Originally Posted by Tony_90fox

When deleting both of those, do you have to relocate the power steering? And if so, do you have to buy some kind of bracket?

I of course have neither of those on my car.. What I did was bought the March alt bracket kit that allows the adjustment of the belt with a rod on the alt. I have no tensioner. My power steering is in the same place. I just made a couple a trips to the parts store to size up the belt. I have had to only had to adjust the belt tension once so far a week or so after install prob due to inital stretching.. I like my set up without the tensioner...

JBIGBOOTSY · March 21st, 2007, 11:49 PM

OK, first off I know its ghetto....

I took them both off and relocated my tensioner on the AC bracket. you have to drill a hole in it and get a nut for the bolt. you can leave everything else where it is.

Stangzilla · March 21st, 2007, 11:52 PM

OK, first off I know its ghetto....

At least you admitted it...LOL

JBIGBOOTSY · March 22nd, 2007, 12:04 AM

Yea, Ikeep a pretty clean engine bay, but I allways feel I have to explain myself before I pop my hood for anyone because of that.

Stangzilla · March 22nd, 2007, 12:08 AM

Stangzilla · March 22nd, 2007, 12:08 AM

chadjones99 · March 22nd, 2007, 01:00 AM

has anyone does a ac,smog & a PS delete and what did you have to do.

mikebert · March 22nd, 2007, 01:10 AM

PS delete? You don't plan on driving on the street a lot?

chadjones99 · March 22nd, 2007, 01:18 AM

not very much. i have put skinny tires up front and it is mostly used for the track. i will drive it on the street just to brake in the motor. only 500 miles on it now.
PS is leaking bad, and i can have that on the strip

mikebert · March 22nd, 2007, 01:26 AM

Well, I think you need a kit to get rid of PS. It's not just the same as disabling the PS pump. Plus, since you're using it for a track application, there is a bit of weight reduction to be had from swapping the system over.

chadjones99 · March 22nd, 2007, 01:32 AM

ya. i am looking at ebay ,i may just replace the rack.
?
just got the new motor in and the dam thing starts to leak. would have been really easy when the motor was out

Kingcater · March 22nd, 2007, 02:08 AM

I wish the previous owner of my car never deleted my ac, now I have to find all the parts to put it back on. Bleh.

mikebert · March 22nd, 2007, 02:31 AM

Originally Posted by 1Fast92FiveOh

I wish the previous owner of my car never deleted my ac, now I have to find all the parts to put it back on. Bleh.

Compressor, accumulator, connecting line, orifice tube, ???

Or buy from the people that are asking about delete kits?

Tony_90fox · March 22nd, 2007, 11:37 AM

Originally Posted by Stangzilla

Originally Posted by Tony_90fox

When deleting both of those, do you have to relocate the power steering? And if so, do you have to buy some kind of bracket?

I of course have neither of those on my car.. What I did was bought the March alt bracket kit that allows the adjustment of the belt with a rod on the alt. I have no tensioner. My power steering is in the same place. I just made a couple a trips to the parts store to size up the belt. I have had to only had to adjust the belt tension once so far a week or so after install prob due to inital stretching.. I like my set up without the tensioner...

so you kept the ps pump down low and your belt doesnt rub?

mikebert · March 22nd, 2007, 11:44 AM

Originally Posted by Tony_90fox

so you kept the ps pump down low and your belt doesnt rub?

Taken from the "Losing HP" thread, this guy I quote is the topic creator so this is his problem on his car.

Originally Posted by That Dude With The Problem

I think I found the problem. I have no a/c compressor and have a elimination bracket and my tensioner is where my a/c compressor would be. Which leaves a little bit of belt touching my alternator and when i hit the gas the belt is slipping over the alternator pulley causing the amp light. Tomorrow im going to switch it back to its original placing next to the alternator and see how it works. Thanks for all the advice the belt factor didnt even dawn on me till it was brought up thanks and ill let you know how it works.

Kingcater · March 22nd, 2007, 02:13 PM

Most people have the r12 units which I heard you can't recarge or are expensive to do so. I might buy a r134 kit off of 50resto, it's 799 tho =T

mikebert · March 22nd, 2007, 02:25 PM

Originally Posted by 1Fast92FiveOh

Most people have the r12 units which I heard you can't recarge or are expensive to do so. I might buy a r134 kit off of 50resto, it's 799 tho =T

What R12 unit? It's all the same gear. I know you have to change accumulator if you swap over. Compressor is a maybe I think.

March 21st, 2007, 11:09 PM	#1
Tony_90fox Banned Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Bowling Green, KY Posts: 3,803 iTrader: 0 reviews	Deleting A/C and smog When deleting both of those, do you have to relocate the power steering? And if so, do you have to buy some kind of bracket? __________________ [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC] [B][U]MM Sapper Squad[/U][/B] [QUOTE=Regency 2007;1676187]MSO's stupidity has never stopped amazing me since the day he joined this forum.[/QUOTE]

March 21st, 2007, 11:25 PM	#3
Racinjason81 Hardcore Enthusiast Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: New jersey Posts: 1,559 iTrader: 0 reviews	no not neccesarily if you use a march a/c eliminator the P/S stay where it is and if you use a air pump idler __________________ Heres a real funny video youtube.com/watch?v=ojB7KkaR03I VTEC stands for Very Torqueless Economy Car Honda stands for Hold On Not Done Accelerating 1991 LX 5.0 H/B(T-70 turbo coming soon)

March 21st, 2007, 11:49 PM	#5
JBIGBOOTSY MM Fanatic 1990 LX hatch Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Hobart Indiana Posts: 4,391 iTrader: 0 reviews	OK, first off I know its ghetto.... I took them both off and relocated my tensioner on the AC bracket. you have to drill a hole in it and get a nut for the bolt. you can leave everything else where it is. __________________ Bolt-on Abraham Lincoln Log motor. With extra wiring.

March 21st, 2007, 11:52 PM	#6
Stangzilla MM Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: On my way to Baines's house!! Posts: 3,298 iTrader: 0 reviews	OK, first off I know its ghetto.... At least you admitted it...LOL __________________ Rotating The Earth 1320 Feet At A Time!! Today, I found out that when I masturbate at night while watching internet porn I cast a huge shadow on the curtain and the entire street is able to see it.

March 22nd, 2007, 12:04 AM	#7
JBIGBOOTSY MM Fanatic 1990 LX hatch Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Hobart Indiana Posts: 4,391 iTrader: 0 reviews	Yea, Ikeep a pretty clean engine bay, but I allways feel I have to explain myself before I pop my hood for anyone because of that. __________________ Bolt-on Abraham Lincoln Log motor. With extra wiring.

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March 21st, 2007, 11:22 PM	#2
mikebert Enthusiast Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Augusta, GA Posts: 906 iTrader: 0 reviews	I believe you can get kits that just bolt pulleys into the locations of the smog pump and A/C. However, for cars that didn't come with AC, the power steering pump is in a different place. So if you have seen kits with complete brakcets, it's going to be a setup like you never had A/C, as opposed to a placeholder pulley.

March 22nd, 2007, 12:08 AM	#8
Stangzilla MM Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: On my way to Baines's house!! Posts: 3,298 iTrader: 0 reviews	__________________ Rotating The Earth 1320 Feet At A Time!! Today, I found out that when I masturbate at night while watching internet porn I cast a huge shadow on the curtain and the entire street is able to see it.

March 22nd, 2007, 01:00 AM	#10
chadjones99 Regular Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Tonopah,az Posts: 86 iTrader: 0 reviews	has anyone does a ac,smog & a PS delete and what did you have to do. __________________ 1986 stang ,Edelbrook intake, aluminum heads, E303 cam ,70 MM throttle body ,24lb injectors ,373 gears , 10:1 pistons set up,no cats , flowmaster mufflers , short shifter , 255 fuel pump , smog pump delete , A/C delete , Aluminum Radiator , MAF convertion

March 22nd, 2007, 01:10 AM	#11
mikebert Enthusiast Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Augusta, GA Posts: 906 iTrader: 0 reviews	PS delete? You don't plan on driving on the street a lot?

March 22nd, 2007, 01:18 AM	#12
chadjones99 Regular Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Tonopah,az Posts: 86 iTrader: 0 reviews	not very much. i have put skinny tires up front and it is mostly used for the track. i will drive it on the street just to brake in the motor. only 500 miles on it now. PS is leaking bad, and i can have that on the strip __________________ 1986 stang ,Edelbrook intake, aluminum heads, E303 cam ,70 MM throttle body ,24lb injectors ,373 gears , 10:1 pistons set up,no cats , flowmaster mufflers , short shifter , 255 fuel pump , smog pump delete , A/C delete , Aluminum Radiator , MAF convertion

March 22nd, 2007, 01:26 AM	#13
mikebert Enthusiast Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Augusta, GA Posts: 906 iTrader: 0 reviews	Well, I think you need a kit to get rid of PS. It's not just the same as disabling the PS pump. Plus, since you're using it for a track application, there is a bit of weight reduction to be had from swapping the system over.

March 22nd, 2007, 01:32 AM	#14
chadjones99 Regular Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Tonopah,az Posts: 86 iTrader: 0 reviews	ya. i am looking at ebay ,i may just replace the rack. ? just got the new motor in and the dam thing starts to leak. would have been really easy when the motor was out __________________ 1986 stang ,Edelbrook intake, aluminum heads, E303 cam ,70 MM throttle body ,24lb injectors ,373 gears , 10:1 pistons set up,no cats , flowmaster mufflers , short shifter , 255 fuel pump , smog pump delete , A/C delete , Aluminum Radiator , MAF convertion

March 22nd, 2007, 02:08 AM	#15
Kingcater Regular Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Bay Area, California Posts: 190 iTrader: 0 reviews	I wish the previous owner of my car never deleted my ac, now I have to find all the parts to put it back on. Bleh. __________________ 2000 A4 Z-28 Free Mods No Appearance or Performance mods Yea, it's slow..... http://www.fquick.com/Kingc8r

March 22nd, 2007, 02:13 PM	#19
Kingcater Regular Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Bay Area, California Posts: 190 iTrader: 0 reviews	Most people have the r12 units which I heard you can't recarge or are expensive to do so. I might buy a r134 kit off of 50resto, it's 799 tho =T __________________ 2000 A4 Z-28 Free Mods No Appearance or Performance mods Yea, it's slow..... http://www.fquick.com/Kingc8r

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