is manual rack really worth it??

FiveOOH89 · March 28th, 2007, 11:03 PM

hey got a 89 mustang LX and im thinking of getting a manual rack so i can delete the power steering for some HP and less weight but im not really sure if its worth the hassle of no power steering and the money and how much HP would i get out of it...just let me know thanks

Stangzilla · March 28th, 2007, 11:05 PM

Well no power steering is not bad when you are moving but it sucks when parking and moving slow.. I say do it... I want to sooner or L8TR. Let me know how it is...

Tony_90fox · March 28th, 2007, 11:07 PM

Is your car strictly strip? If not, keep the power steering. It isnt that it is all that hard to turn, when you are going it is easy, it is more of a control issue for me...When getting squirrly in my old 89 without power steering, it was hard to correct the steering.

So my vote is dont delete the p/s if you drive a decent amount on the street.

1slo5.0 · March 28th, 2007, 11:09 PM

You won't gain any horsepower but you will save some weight. Power steering only uses horsepower when the pump is working which is when the wheel is turning. With a manual rack turning won't be bad at all. Now a power rack with no pump is a different story. I've done that in the past and it really makes it a complicated procedure to park.

Stangzilla · March 29th, 2007, 12:01 AM

Originally Posted by Tony_90fox

Is your car strictly strip? If not, keep the power steering. It isnt that it is all that hard to turn, when you are going it is easy, it is more of a control issue for me...When getting squirrly in my old 89 without power steering, it was hard to correct the steering.

So my vote is dont delete the p/s if you drive a decent amount on the street.

Like Darrell said its 2 different animals when comparing a power steering unit that dont work or is disconnected as compared to an actual manual rack.. A power rack is a hydraulic unit designed to push fluid to turn. If there is no fluid it prob is twice as hard if not more to turn than a actual manual rack...

jtillery · March 29th, 2007, 09:57 AM

I have been considering getting rid of the power steering too... I was looking at a flaming river manual rack, they seem to go for $175 on eBay. Does anyone know if there are other parts required for the conversion (other than shorter belt)?

Racinjason81 · March 29th, 2007, 12:03 PM

a manual steering shaft and tie rod ends. I was doing a little research on
a man. rack and they suggested the steering shaft for better steering feel.
and as for the tie rods are a different length than a power rack

GTXRacing · March 29th, 2007, 04:18 PM

Originally Posted by Stangzilla

Well no power steering is not bad when you are moving but it sucks when parking and moving slow.. I say do it... I want to sooner or L8TR. Let me know how it is...

Double negetive man... say what???

jtillery · March 29th, 2007, 04:20 PM

Originally Posted by Racinjason81

a manual steering shaft and tie rod ends. I was doing a little research on
a man. rack and they suggested the steering shaft for better steering feel.
and as for the tie rods are a different length than a power rack

Do you have any idea what it would need for tie rod ends? None of the racks I have seen come with them and do not reference which ones to get... My power steering rack is messed up, so I am thinking about just replacing it with a manual rack.

March 28th, 2007, 11:03 PM	#1
FiveOOH89 Newbie Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 10 iTrader: 0 reviews	is manual rack really worth it?? hey got a 89 mustang LX and im thinking of getting a manual rack so i can delete the power steering for some HP and less weight but im not really sure if its worth the hassle of no power steering and the money and how much HP would i get out of it...just let me know thanks

March 28th, 2007, 11:05 PM	#2
Stangzilla MM Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: On my way to Baines's house!! Posts: 3,298 iTrader: 0 reviews	Well no power steering is not bad when you are moving but it sucks when parking and moving slow.. I say do it... I want to sooner or L8TR. Let me know how it is... __________________ Rotating The Earth 1320 Feet At A Time!! Today, I found out that when I masturbate at night while watching internet porn I cast a huge shadow on the curtain and the entire street is able to see it.

March 28th, 2007, 11:07 PM	#3
Tony_90fox Banned Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Bowling Green, KY Posts: 3,831 iTrader: 0 reviews	Is your car strictly strip? If not, keep the power steering. It isnt that it is all that hard to turn, when you are going it is easy, it is more of a control issue for me...When getting squirrly in my old 89 without power steering, it was hard to correct the steering. So my vote is dont delete the p/s if you drive a decent amount on the street. __________________ [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC] [B][U]MM Sapper Squad[/U][/B] [QUOTE=Regency 2007;1676187]MSO's stupidity has never stopped amazing me since the day he joined this forum.[/QUOTE]

March 28th, 2007, 11:09 PM	#4
1slo5.0 MM Ninjas! 1990 Mustang LX 9.36@143 mph Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: North Fond du Lac, Wisconsin Posts: 11,375 iTrader: 1 reviews	You won't gain any horsepower but you will save some weight. Power steering only uses horsepower when the pump is working which is when the wheel is turning. With a manual rack turning won't be bad at all. Now a power rack with no pump is a different story. I've done that in the past and it really makes it a complicated procedure to park. __________________ My daily driver has 16 cylinders and 4400hp @ 1000 rpm.... ***1988 Mustang GT - Stock....almost

March 29th, 2007, 09:57 AM	#6
jtillery Regular Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Euclid, Ohio Posts: 122 iTrader: 0 reviews	I have been considering getting rid of the power steering too... I was looking at a flaming river manual rack, they seem to go for $175 on eBay. Does anyone know if there are other parts required for the conversion (other than shorter belt)? __________________ Current Mustangs: 2004 Cobra Convertible 1993 5.0 LX Hatchback 1992 5.0 LX Convertible

March 29th, 2007, 12:03 PM	#7
Racinjason81 Hardcore Enthusiast Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: New jersey Posts: 1,559 iTrader: 0 reviews	a manual steering shaft and tie rod ends. I was doing a little research on a man. rack and they suggested the steering shaft for better steering feel. and as for the tie rods are a different length than a power rack __________________ Heres a real funny video youtube.com/watch?v=ojB7KkaR03I VTEC stands for Very Torqueless Economy Car Honda stands for Hold On Not Done Accelerating 1991 LX 5.0 H/B(T-70 turbo coming soon)

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