is manual rack really worth it??

FiveOOH89 · March 28th, 2007, 10:03 PM

hey got a 89 mustang LX and im thinking of getting a manual rack so i can delete the power steering for some HP and less weight but im not really sure if its worth the hassle of no power steering and the money and how much HP would i get out of it...just let me know thanks

Stangzilla · March 28th, 2007, 10:05 PM

Well no power steering is not bad when you are moving but it sucks when parking and moving slow.. I say do it... I want to sooner or L8TR. Let me know how it is...

Tony_90fox · March 28th, 2007, 10:07 PM

Is your car strictly strip? If not, keep the power steering. It isnt that it is all that hard to turn, when you are going it is easy, it is more of a control issue for me...When getting squirrly in my old 89 without power steering, it was hard to correct the steering.

So my vote is dont delete the p/s if you drive a decent amount on the street.

Darrell · March 28th, 2007, 10:09 PM

You won't gain any horsepower but you will save some weight. Power steering only uses horsepower when the pump is working which is when the wheel is turning. With a manual rack turning won't be bad at all. Now a power rack with no pump is a different story. I've done that in the past and it really makes it a complicated procedure to park.

Stangzilla · March 28th, 2007, 11:01 PM

Originally Posted by Tony_90fox

Is your car strictly strip? If not, keep the power steering. It isnt that it is all that hard to turn, when you are going it is easy, it is more of a control issue for me...When getting squirrly in my old 89 without power steering, it was hard to correct the steering.

So my vote is dont delete the p/s if you drive a decent amount on the street.

Like Darrell said its 2 different animals when comparing a power steering unit that dont work or is disconnected as compared to an actual manual rack.. A power rack is a hydraulic unit designed to push fluid to turn. If there is no fluid it prob is twice as hard if not more to turn than a actual manual rack...

jtillery · March 29th, 2007, 08:57 AM

I have been considering getting rid of the power steering too... I was looking at a flaming river manual rack, they seem to go for $175 on eBay. Does anyone know if there are other parts required for the conversion (other than shorter belt)?

Racinjason81 · March 29th, 2007, 11:03 AM

a manual steering shaft and tie rod ends. I was doing a little research on
a man. rack and they suggested the steering shaft for better steering feel.
and as for the tie rods are a different length than a power rack

GTXRacing · March 29th, 2007, 03:18 PM

Originally Posted by Stangzilla

Well no power steering is not bad when you are moving but it sucks when parking and moving slow.. I say do it... I want to sooner or L8TR. Let me know how it is...

Double negetive man... say what???

jtillery · March 29th, 2007, 03:20 PM

Originally Posted by Racinjason81

a manual steering shaft and tie rod ends. I was doing a little research on
a man. rack and they suggested the steering shaft for better steering feel.
and as for the tie rods are a different length than a power rack

Do you have any idea what it would need for tie rod ends? None of the racks I have seen come with them and do not reference which ones to get... My power steering rack is messed up, so I am thinking about just replacing it with a manual rack.

March 28th, 2007, 10:03 PM	#1
FiveOOH89 Newbie Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 10	is manual rack really worth it?? hey got a 89 mustang LX and im thinking of getting a manual rack so i can delete the power steering for some HP and less weight but im not really sure if its worth the hassle of no power steering and the money and how much HP would i get out of it...just let me know thanks

March 28th, 2007, 10:05 PM	#2
Stangzilla Hardcore Enthusiast Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: On my way to Baines's house!! Posts: 2,992	Well no power steering is not bad when you are moving but it sucks when parking and moving slow.. I say do it... I want to sooner or L8TR. Let me know how it is... __________________ Rotating The Earth 1320 Feet At A Time!! The very existence of flamethrowers proves that sometime, somewhere, someone said to themselves, “You know, I want to set those people over there on fire, but I’m just not close enough to get the job done.”

March 28th, 2007, 10:07 PM	#3
Tony_90fox MM Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Bowling Green, KY Posts: 3,445	Is your car strictly strip? If not, keep the power steering. It isnt that it is all that hard to turn, when you are going it is easy, it is more of a control issue for me...When getting squirrly in my old 89 without power steering, it was hard to correct the steering. So my vote is dont delete the p/s if you drive a decent amount on the street. __________________ Suck on it Trebek. Suck it long, suck it hard.

March 28th, 2007, 10:09 PM	#4
Darrell MM Ninjas! 1990 Mustang LX 9.36@143 mph Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Fond du Lac, Wisconsin Posts: 6,579	You won't gain any horsepower but you will save some weight. Power steering only uses horsepower when the pump is working which is when the wheel is turning. With a manual rack turning won't be bad at all. Now a power rack with no pump is a different story. I've done that in the past and it really makes it a complicated procedure to park. __________________ Racing in memory of Dave Bandt 11/19/69 - 3/23/08 "he's traded his wheels for wings" Professor of Natural Aspiration Thanks to: Artie at Trick Flow, Dave at Team Z Motorsports, Brian at Total Engine Airflow and Harold at Furo Racecraft

March 29th, 2007, 08:57 AM	#6
jtillery Regular Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Euclid, Ohio Posts: 120	I have been considering getting rid of the power steering too... I was looking at a flaming river manual rack, they seem to go for $175 on eBay. Does anyone know if there are other parts required for the conversion (other than shorter belt)? __________________ 1992 LX 5.0 Swap Convertible - Paxton Novi - P&P Heads - Cobra Intake - Tremec 3550 - Full Aftermarket Exhaust - Many other Mods 1993 LX 5.0 Hatchback - Bondo Bandit - Nitrous Works Wet Kit - Full Aftermarket Exhaust - Suspension Upgrades

March 29th, 2007, 11:03 AM	#7
Racinjason81 Hardcore Enthusiast Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: New jersey Posts: 1,199	a manual steering shaft and tie rod ends. I was doing a little research on a man. rack and they suggested the steering shaft for better steering feel. and as for the tie rods are a different length than a power rack __________________ Speed kills drive an import and live forever. 1991 LX 5.0 H/B 1990 T-BIRD SC

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