[StangBanger302]

Hey guys, I'm going to be making more money soon and I want a whole new combo. I want to get an aftermarket 347 shortblock and build it for a power adder. My questions are this: what power adder will be most efficient? Also, I am looking to grudge race with this car, what is the best inline head out there?Lastly, what block should I get? Thanks. Forgot to mention I want a streetcar too

[StangBanger302]

i was thinking about starting off with this Ford Racing M-6009-Z347 - Ford Racing 347 C.I.D. Stroker Short Block Engine Assemblies - Overview - SummitRacing.com and then add some good inline heads (angle job and porting done) and a custom ground cam. Any recommendations on heads/intake?

[FastStang91Lx]

Holy waste of money, Batman!!!.... I'd rethink that all together, I'm sure most shops wouldn't even charge near that much to build it for you if you can't yourself.

Oh, yeah.... if you HAVE to go inline head... AFR, I guess. Why inline, by the way?

[fogged306]

I can't believe that they are selling those engines.. unless they changed the block, last time I checked, 347's in the boss blocks weren't a good idea. The cylinders are .350 shorter so you have a lot of skirt sticking out at the bottom of the stroke when you go with a 3.4" This equates to more piston rock. For that money, I would go dart.

For heads, check out TEA.. Highports are nice.

[StangBanger302]

Inline heads because i want to grudge race with this car/motor. Usually people stip their cars to standard degree heads so i would be on even ground with them. I'll also check out darts blocks...i just don't have a clue on where to start with stroker blocks.

[fogged306]

Check out fordstrokers.com. Look around on the mustang forums, or google "woody" or fordstrokers. There's tons of happy customers, and from what I've seen, they have good reason. He seems to do top notch work and is reasonably priced.

[88Saleen]

get you a dart block, some good forged internals, and a shop to assemble the lower end of the engine. then slap on heads cam and intake yourself. sounds like you have some cash to throw around considering the engine you picked out from summit.

[93mustank]

Originally Posted by StangBanger302 Inline heads because i want to grudge race with this car/motor. Usually people stip their cars to standard degree heads so i would be on even ground with them. I'll also check out darts blocks...i just don't have a clue on where to start with stroker blocks.

Highports are inline

[StangBanger302]

I never disputed that....I'm thinking about adding a turbo to this combo with some worked afr's. Add a custom cam and intake (appropriate injectors MAF etc..) and I'm hoping for a 9 second streetable car. Sound unreasonable?

[93mustank]

U tell me...

[1slo5.0]

Originally Posted by StangBanger302 Hey guys, I'm going to be making more money soon and I want a whole new combo. I want to get an aftermarket 347 shortblock and build it for a power adder. My questions are this: what power adder will be most efficient? Also, I am looking to grudge race with this car, what is the best inline head out there?Lastly, what block should I get? Thanks. Forgot to mention I want a streetcar too

How much power are you looking to make and how much money do you have to spend on this project? Those two important questions need to be answered before you can ask any other questions.

Originally Posted by StangBanger302 i was thinking about starting off with this Ford Racing M-6009-Z347 - Ford Racing 347 C.I.D. Stroker Short Block Engine Assemblies - Overview - SummitRacing.com and then add some good inline heads (angle job and porting done) and a custom ground cam. Any recommendations on heads/intake?

Bad choice.

Originally Posted by StangBanger302 Inline heads because i want to grudge race with this car/motor. Usually people stip their cars to standard degree heads so i would be on even ground with them. I'll also check out darts blocks...i just don't have a clue on where to start with stroker blocks.

If you want less power then just build a 302....

I don't understand this logic. Define even ground. Why don't you just go bracket race then? This is drag racing son. Its not about giving someone a fair chance, its all about getting to the finish line first.

If you are insistent on making less horsepower and running heads with stock valve angles and such, then don't worry about a Dart block because you aren't going to need it.

Originally Posted by StangBanger302 I never disputed that....I'm thinking about adding a turbo to this combo with some worked afr's. Add a custom cam and intake (appropriate injectors MAF etc..) and I'm hoping for a 9 second streetable car. Sound unreasonable?

No it doesn't. The engine alone will not run 9s. Do you have any idea how much money and work needs to go into a 9 second car? I'm talking about the car and not the engine.

Originally Posted by 93mustank U tell me...

I agree.

[StangBanger302]

Ok. Here's a new approach. I don't want specific power numbers, just a 9 second street car. I'll go with canted heads; since they make more power. I do have an idea of what a 9 second vehicle costs. I would need all new suspension,transmission,rear end,block,heads etc. And at 9 seconds i would need a cage also correct? I've never been to a track so i don't know. Next year I am going to be making more money (30,000-50,000 a year) so i want to build a nice street car. It would also be cool to be able to take 1,000cc motorcycles from a dig (on average they run 9.70's). Give me a good block to start from and some heads then i will have an idea of what to look for. Cams...Go with Jay Allen? I've heard good things about him on here. Keep in mind i also want to turbo charge this motor. Thanks guys.

[FastStang91Lx]

I think he's shooting for 9's in the 1/8th....

9 second DD are very expensive.... I would go turbo if I was looking to keep it steet friendly, but getting a tuner that knows what the hell he is doing when it comes to a 9 second streeter... that's another thing. Can be done, but it's gonna take alot more than you think. Hope you still live at home and are making the higher end of you wage guess.

[JBIGBOOTSY]

Originally Posted by FastStang91Lx I think he's shooting for 9's in the 1/8th.... 9 second DD are very expensive.... I would go turbo if I was looking to keep it steet friendly, but getting a tuner that knows what the hell he is doing when it comes to a 9 second streeter... that's another thing. Can be done, but it's gonna take alot more than you think. Hope you still live at home and are making the higher end of you wage guess.

Having a car that can run in the 9's is different than a 9 sec race car.

i'd say about 12-16K if you already have the car.

[StangBanger302]

Originally Posted by JBIGBOOTSY Having a car that can run in the 9's is different than a 9 sec race car. i'd say about 12-16K if you already have the car.

i estimated a little higher...good to have an idea.

[FastStang91Lx]

Originally Posted by JBIGBOOTSY Having a car that can run in the 9's is different than a 9 sec race car. i'd say about 12-16K if you already have the car.

I say higher too... That would be for a high nine car at best.

[CAMN89GT]

why 347? why are you kids so stuck on 306/331/347 ? ever heard of 363s ? how about 408s? 427s? come on!!! build some real shit. and the sad part in todays economy, what u spend to build one, you can go buy a turn key 10/9 sec car!!!! use your brain.

[FastStang91Lx]

Cuz I take pride in knowing that I put my car together, not bought it that way. And I have enough brains to know that the bigger the motor.... the WAY more expensive it gets. That's what stops most people from the 351 based strokers and the aftermarket 302 blocks that will get them to 363.

[CAMN89GT]

Originally Posted by FastStang91Lx Cuz I take pride in knowing that I put my car together, not bought it that way. And I have enough brains to know that the bigger the motor.... the WAY more expensive it gets. That's what stops most people from the 351 based strokers and the aftermarket 302 blocks that will get them to 363.

negative charlie. you can build a 408, 418, 427 for just about the same as a 347. couple extra more hundred.. and if you wanna be one of those stubburn asses who spend 30k to build a car you can buy for 12-15k then so be it, its your cash man!

[fogged306]

Originally Posted by CAMN89GT negative charlie. you can build a 408, 418, 427 for just about the same as a 347. couple extra more hundred.. and if you wanna be one of those stubburn asses who spend 30k to build a car you can buy for 12-15k then so be it, its your cash man!

While I agree that more cubes can be had for not a whole lot more money, I definitely disagree with just buying a car that's already done. Buying someone elses junk is for someone who just wants to get their rocks off. Building an engine/chassis from scratch with nothing but your own knowledge and talent is what this hobby is all about. I want to know that when I win, it was because I took the extra time to set my valvetrain geometry, made sure my springs were close enough to coil bind to help stabilize the valves, set my instant center right, matched my intake, cam, heads, and collector the right way, ect.. used my brain instead of my wallet.