On 3 turbo be here tomorrow!

Spike Digidy! · September 21st, 2010, 06:33 PM

low-mid 11's dunno

flattusmaximus78 · September 21st, 2010, 09:08 PM

Eff E.T. You have a fox with forced induction now and that means you roll race. 123 mph though. Prob wont e.t. at all.

WhiteMamba · September 21st, 2010, 09:26 PM

Originally Posted by flattusmaximus78

Eff E.T. You have a fox with forced induction now and that means you roll race. 123 mph though. Prob wont e.t. at all.

I agree...roll on monster for sure! With GREAT traction you think car has the power to throw down high 10?

302Army187 · September 21st, 2010, 09:33 PM

Originally Posted by WhiteMamba

I agree...roll on monster for sure! With GREAT traction you think car has the power to throw down high 10?

mainly depending on suspension and tire, but yes.

flattusmaximus78 · September 21st, 2010, 11:32 PM

That needle was climbing. With my vortech I'd race my buddys hx40 ems srt from a roll. A easy 120 plus car and it would be a decent race. Didn't seem as quick as ur car.

flyin ryan · September 22nd, 2010, 11:53 AM

Originally Posted by WhiteMamba

So what are all the guesses on what my car will run at the track with a good launch????

11.20s

93hatch · September 22nd, 2010, 11:55 AM

lol at roll racing. Fuckin supras

flattusmaximus78 · September 22nd, 2010, 01:46 PM

Lol I spent my sat making this video.

YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.

Idk what it makes or traps, but when we retuned it for 27psi in the video it wouldn't hook until 105 mph so from a 70 roll. Evo makes 550 to the tire on pump. It was fun asking the dude in the fox for a 70 roll, he didn't think we were serious about how bad it spins, but he got his shit pushed in so it's alright.

WhiteMamba · October 11th, 2010, 10:16 AM

A few more updates...

I bought a new PCV valve rubber grommet from advance auto. It "seemed" like it fit tight but as soon as I got on the car it flew out and pissed oil all over my firewall.

I went and bought the ford OEM one from the dealer and it fits MUCH tighter and has not come out yet with some very spirited driving.

I was also using an edelbrock enclosed oil breather and that started weeping oil as well...I now have a air filter element looking oil breather and all is well.

So basically the lesson is as many of you suggested, the pressure inside the head is MUCH greater with boost and that has to be accounted for.

EscortSportage · October 11th, 2010, 11:56 AM

ehhh cant wait to feel v8 boost! im chatting with a guy who is selling the boosted brothers turbo kit, might be picking this up instead of on 3...at this point it doesnt matter i need a turbo kit to fire up my engine...(sold me entire exhaust)

fogged306 · October 11th, 2010, 12:37 PM

If you're using a breather and a PCV system on a MAF car, at part throttle and idle on a boosted car you are letting unmetered air into the system AKA vacuum leak.

WhiteMamba · October 11th, 2010, 12:41 PM

Originally Posted by fogged306

If you're using a breather and a PCV system on a MAF car, at part throttle and idle on a boosted car you are letting unmetered air into the system AKA vacuum leak.

so what is the solution then? my idle and part throttle response is excellent and on the dyno it looked clean all the way through the rev range

fogged306 · October 11th, 2010, 12:54 PM

You may be ok, especially if it was tuned like that, but in the end, it still is a vac leak albeit a small one. Air gets sucked into the crankcase through the breather and goes in through the PCV. I would eliminate the PCV and just run breathers. Once you start making a bunch more power than stock, the PCV system isn't capable of getting rid of the excess pressure in the crankcase anymore. Make sure you eliminate the hose going from the oil fill neck to the TB if you go with breathers.

nolife · October 11th, 2010, 11:02 PM

I still use the PCV and live with the vac leak. I like the advantage of sucking out the smoke and crude from building up there when I'm putting around and not making boost and the PCV can still work. Maybe it is not an issue but for me, neither is the small vac leak which is only about 1-2 inches at idle and my car runs rich at idle anyway.

If you have an issue with blowby on boost, you can disconnect the PCV hose from the upper and put a breather on that line too for some extra venting while under boost, cap the vac port on the upper obviously with that method.

gotn20 · April 29th, 2011, 06:53 PM

[QUOTE=WhiteMamba;3163234]We got the car running today and HOLY SHIT! It runs VERY VERY good! I cant even describe how dam fast it feels...imagine a 1000cc bike on 4 wheels....

I'll take that bet

lol. Hey great thread man.. Got a question for you. I'm buying the on 3 351 kit and i was wondering. If i was willing to fab and pay extra for pro fab would it be possible for me to keep ac. I really really want to keep it.

ryanw · April 29th, 2011, 07:17 PM

[quote=gotn20;3711178]

Originally Posted by WhiteMamba

We got the car running today and HOLY SHIT! It runs VERY VERY good! I cant even describe how dam fast it feels...imagine a 1000cc bike on 4 wheels....

I'll take that bet lol. Hey great thread man.. Got a question for you. I'm buying the on 3 351 kit and i was wondering. If i was willing to fab and pay extra for pro fab would it be possible for me to keep ac. I really really want to keep it.

He is not around any more...A few months after he put the turbo on he sold his car to buy some thing else, i cant remember what, so my point is, he wont be responding to your question

But i think the on3 kit has been revised so you can keep your A/C but only on there newer kits. well thats the way it is for there 302ci kits. If you go to there web page i think they tell if you can keep your A/C or not. Im unsure about there 351 set up though

flattusmaximus78 · April 29th, 2011, 11:49 PM

302 kit maintanes ac

September 21st, 2010, 09:08 PM	#222
flattusmaximus78 I Post Entirely Way Too Much 1993 5.ohhhh 12.97 @140mph Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Gatorland Posts: 6,122 iTrader: 3 reviews	Eff E.T. You have a fox with forced induction now and that means you roll race. 123 mph though. Prob wont e.t. at all. __________________ 02 Pewter z28, hoosiers/lid/exhaust/spray...125mph 1993 gt Sold, already missed --Moates Quarter horse $225-- --Cobra intake $150-- --tremec 3550 bell and shifter $1100--

September 21st, 2010, 11:32 PM	#225
flattusmaximus78 I Post Entirely Way Too Much 1993 5.ohhhh 12.97 @140mph Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Gatorland Posts: 6,122 iTrader: 3 reviews	That needle was climbing. With my vortech I'd race my buddys hx40 ems srt from a roll. A easy 120 plus car and it would be a decent race. Didn't seem as quick as ur car. __________________ 02 Pewter z28, hoosiers/lid/exhaust/spray...125mph 1993 gt Sold, already missed --Moates Quarter horse $225-- --Cobra intake $150-- --tremec 3550 bell and shifter $1100--

September 22nd, 2010, 11:55 AM	#227
93hatch Banned 1992 Lx 11.39@119.24 Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Az Posts: 11,644 iTrader: 0 reviews	lol at roll racing. Fuckin supras __________________ [QUOTE=93mustank;2577445]We speed tested my right arm for quickness in shifts... So he could design the cam for proper shift recovery.[/QUOTE]

October 11th, 2010, 10:16 AM	#229
WhiteMamba Regular 88 Notch Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Saint Charles IL Posts: 431 iTrader: 0 reviews	A few more updates... I bought a new PCV valve rubber grommet from advance auto. It "seemed" like it fit tight but as soon as I got on the car it flew out and pissed oil all over my firewall. I went and bought the ford OEM one from the dealer and it fits MUCH tighter and has not come out yet with some very spirited driving. I was also using an edelbrock enclosed oil breather and that started weeping oil as well...I now have a air filter element looking oil breather and all is well. So basically the lesson is as many of you suggested, the pressure inside the head is MUCH greater with boost and that has to be accounted for. __________________ 88 Notchy 306 with 70mm Turbo 510 RWHP on 10lbs K thnx Can we chat?

October 11th, 2010, 11:56 AM	#230
EscortSportage Hardcore Enthusiast 1989 Mustang GT 5.0 Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: CT Posts: 2,186 iTrader: 0 reviews	ehhh cant wait to feel v8 boost! im chatting with a guy who is selling the boosted brothers turbo kit, might be picking this up instead of on 3...at this point it doesnt matter i need a turbo kit to fire up my engine...(sold me entire exhaust) __________________ Cage Maximum Motorsports Sparco QH/BE Nitto "a huge bad azz motor is nice untill you have to turn or stop"

October 11th, 2010, 12:37 PM	#231
fogged306 MM Fanatic 89 GT Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: NY Posts: 4,875 iTrader: 2 reviews	If you're using a breather and a PCV system on a MAF car, at part throttle and idle on a boosted car you are letting unmetered air into the system AKA vacuum leak.

October 11th, 2010, 12:54 PM	#233
fogged306 MM Fanatic 89 GT Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: NY Posts: 4,875 iTrader: 2 reviews	You may be ok, especially if it was tuned like that, but in the end, it still is a vac leak albeit a small one. Air gets sucked into the crankcase through the breather and goes in through the PCV. I would eliminate the PCV and just run breathers. Once you start making a bunch more power than stock, the PCV system isn't capable of getting rid of the excess pressure in the crankcase anymore. Make sure you eliminate the hose going from the oil fill neck to the TB if you go with breathers.

October 11th, 2010, 11:02 PM	#234
nolife MM Fanatic 91GT, 88GT, 02GT Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 3,057 Blog Entries: 3 iTrader: 0 reviews	I still use the PCV and live with the vac leak. I like the advantage of sucking out the smoke and crude from building up there when I'm putting around and not making boost and the PCV can still work. Maybe it is not an issue but for me, neither is the small vac leak which is only about 1-2 inches at idle and my car runs rich at idle anyway. If you have an issue with blowby on boost, you can disconnect the PCV hose from the upper and put a breather on that line too for some extra venting while under boost, cap the vac port on the upper obviously with that method. __________________ Last edited by nolife; October 11th, 2010 at 11:09 PM.

April 29th, 2011, 06:53 PM	#235
gotn20 Atomized Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 1,370 iTrader: 0 reviews	[QUOTE=WhiteMamba;3163234]We got the car running today and HOLY SHIT! It runs VERY VERY good! I cant even describe how dam fast it feels...imagine a 1000cc bike on 4 wheels.... I'll take that bet lol. Hey great thread man.. Got a question for you. I'm buying the on 3 351 kit and i was wondering. If i was willing to fab and pay extra for pro fab would it be possible for me to keep ac. I really really want to keep it. __________________ spray and pray

April 29th, 2011, 11:49 PM	#237
flattusmaximus78 I Post Entirely Way Too Much 1993 5.ohhhh 12.97 @140mph Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Gatorland Posts: 6,122 iTrader: 3 reviews	302 kit maintanes ac __________________ 02 Pewter z28, hoosiers/lid/exhaust/spray...125mph 1993 gt Sold, already missed --Moates Quarter horse $225-- --Cobra intake $150-- --tremec 3550 bell and shifter $1100--

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