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1989 Mustang GT
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75 Shot>>? or paxton? i need help
my car has just random upgrades to it.. it's not boosted nor does it have heads or injectors. i do however have random upgrades like cooling system, svo cobra roller rockers, cobra upper intake manifold, 373 rear, king cobra clutch, bbk headers, custom exhaust.. and stuff like that. but i have like no money but i need to go fast to put it plainly.. i've got 2 options. i'm giving my friend some parts for one of two things.. either a nitrous kit (idk what brand yet) and i'll probably just run a 75 shot, or an old ass paxton supercharger running like 5ish psi.. now it's free for me other than my parts i'm giving him which i dont need.. but i need injectors and throttle body and mafs done and all that for a supercharger plus a tune.. and i heard nitrous is so much easier.. so what should i do?.. quick power with a budget of almost nothing.
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1991 Mustang LX 5.0
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Bottle for getting speed cheaper now.... become an addict and it can very well cost you more in the long run.
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thanks. i mean.. i kinda just like to have power there.. and i mean.. what do you think i'd have to do to supercharge the car though? inexpensively
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5 psi isn't too terrible, but my buddy was popping head gaskets left and right on a junk motor he had in his car trying out his new-to-him supercharger with only 8 psi. He was learning though. After he got his new motor together, it went straight to the tuner, so I'm not much help. My car is in the process of being on the bottle.
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haha thanks. i just kinda want to be quicker than my buddies.. one's got a 2010 special edition sti and i'm really hopin the spray doesnt just beat him but lets him know i beat him. you know? i just kinda wish there was like gt40ps and some huge injectors for me for cheap. that way i'd atleast have a decent motor before i was spraying
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ive been running a vortech sc trim (~6psi) since about 2003 with no problems, along with injectors you may want to get a bigger fuel pump and an adj. fuel pres. regulator. Does the paxton kit come with a FMU ? if it doesnt thats something else youll have to get.
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if by old ass paxton you mean an sn98 or such then don't waste your time... if you mean a novi 1k then that's a different story. The old sn98 and such blowers sucked rhino cock.. basically very inefficient and produced tons of heat and didn't stay together well. Old technology basically. The newer stuff like the novi 1k kits are very solid and yeah are entry level blowers with 6psi but with a pulley change you can hit anywhere up to 10 or so psi.
Entry level blowers normally just need a fuel pump upgrade or booster inline pump and a tune. I'd suggest ditching the fmu that they suppy and get larger injectors before you get it tuned. After that its fun fun fun and if your old you'll get addicted to the noise and power. Bottle is the cheapest initial cost to get power but like stated above you'll always be paying for those refills. |
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k well thanks.. i mean.. i'm not sure.. and i think it is an sn.. but i just want some power. haha. and anything else like in general i can do to step up my horsies? like would injectors throttle body or used like gt40 or gt40p heads make a huge difference?
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Go with the paxton. upgrade the pully get 8 psi. what is it an SN89-92-93 paxton. you can run them to 8 psi. i think you need a 7in crank pully with the stock 3.5in head unit pully. you can also upgrade them to a VR4 and push over 10psi.
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well to be honest i dont have the cash to get the new injectors and all that just to put on the supercharger.. it's like atleast 800 bucks including tuning even with the free piping and supercharger.
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If All Your Running Is That Small Little Paxton At 5 Psi Then You Should Only Need 24lb Maybe 30lb Injectors. That Size Doesnt Cost As Much As The 42lb
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Just Get Every Thing Used. Mass Air, 24lb Injectors. (new) 190lph Fuel Pump Or Higher. I Mean Your Going To Have To Put Some Money Into It. Wouldnt You Rather Have Power All The Time. Dont Forget Your Going To Have To Refill Your Bottle, And Thats Going To Cost You Too
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And When You Got Tiered Of It Just Turn Around And Sell It On Ebay 400-900 Dollars Easy. HEY I FORGOT TO ASK DOES THE SUPERCHARGER COME WITH ALL THE BRACKETS, PULLYS ECT... OR IS IT JUST THE HEAD UNIT ?
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I would get the nitrous kit, back the timing to about 6-8 degrees on 93 gas and let er rip. It would be the easiest and cheapest.
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LOL those sn blowers are a waste of money... what kind of blower that's worth a damn sells for $600 complete seriously don't waste your money and time with one.
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I agree 100%. Those SN series ball superchargers are junk. They are extremely inefficient and build alot of heat. The nitrous oxide route would be a much better way to go.
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Ya they are junk but he said hes getting it for free. Pullys dont cost that much. As long as it came with all the stuff to bolt it right up it still free HP. and all the other stuff he would need to make it run right like injectors and fuel pump should be done any ways for upgrades down the line.
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If your going to get a blower...... extra heat and weight in the engine bay, then you better be sure its worth it in my opinion.
nitrous adds NO weight to the front end of the car, puts a 25-30lb bottle over the rear tires which helps traction, when you use nitrous is cool's down the incoming air, intake tube, intake manifold, ETC, instead of increasing temperature of the incoming air, and all other parts.
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Also you can get alot more then $600 for them if there in good shape. I sold one that had a completly rebuilt head unit (0 miles)upgraded impeller with all new brackets hoses bolts ect... for over $1700. so there still is a market for them. depending on the shape there in and what comes with them will change how much you can sell it for. but even used and in ok shape you can still sell them for $600-$1200. he said he was getting it for free. i think if he ever wanted to resell it he could get more money for the paxton then for the bottle.
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^^
Why did you sell the blower? Come on man who ever bought an sn89-93 blower for 1700 got taken when you can easily pickup a vortech strim complete for that much sometimes cheaper that's actually efficient, has plenty of room to grow with and can actually produce enough to split the block. Seriously if someone handed me an sn blower for free i'd gut it, fill it with jello and put my penis in it... or sell it for $500 and buy the n itrious kit or a set of heads. |
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