AFTERMARKET BLOCK

50COUP332 · April 1st, 2007, 01:04 AM

Hey guy's what would you consider to be the best aftermarket block to build a 347 on a buget , I have seen some from DSS for about $950 - $1000 ready to go I beleve bored,notched . This is around what I will be spending at the local machine shop and waiting about 3-4 weeks to get it done. Now I'm not tring to break the bank just something solid and more reliable than the stock .I figure ether way I have to spend the cash might as well get something new/better ... THANKS PATRICK

1slo5.0 · April 1st, 2007, 01:00 PM

An aftermarket block is going to run you close to $2000. I'd be willing to bet the block you are refering to from DSS is a glorified production block.

wraitherx · April 1st, 2007, 01:45 PM

Originally Posted by Darrell

An aftermarket block is going to run you close to $2000. I'd be willing to bet the block you are refering to from DSS is a glorified production block.

+1

NottyBoy93 · April 1st, 2007, 11:00 PM

World Product, Dart $2000+ W/O machine work
Ford Racing $1700-1800 (Blocks alone)

DSS runs great right up until they break if it is a stock block with a stroker kit thrown off in it.

Money might not be able to buy happiness but it buys speed and quality.

wraitherx · April 1st, 2007, 11:08 PM

Originally Posted by NottyBoy93

Money might not be able to buy happiness but it buys speed and quality.

very, very true, you should make that into a quote

NottyBoy93 · April 2nd, 2007, 02:32 AM

*Fixed*

Tony_90fox · April 2nd, 2007, 03:17 AM

it all depends on how much hp you want to run...The Dss and Chp blocks are just new stock blocks basically...As stated above, the World Products Man o War block or the Dart iron eagle or iron eagle sportsman are what you are going to want to get if you are wanting to push a good amount of hp and not have to worry about the block breaking.

I would rather have too much block than riding the limits of a block any day.

ken5_0 · April 2nd, 2007, 11:00 AM

So true Tony!!! Just think of the block as the foundation(cause it is). You wouldn't put $2,000,000 house on a popsicle stick foundation right? If your basically building a replacement stock motor then DSS is fine. Building a monster? Go with Dart or World!!!

50COUP332 · April 2nd, 2007, 04:01 PM

Thanks for the help guy's, I guess I'm ether going to have to save up some more $$ or go a different way as to what I'm going to do with my motor. I would rather see my car sit than half-ass it and blow it up with a weak stock block .

1slo5.0 · April 2nd, 2007, 06:14 PM

Originally Posted by 50COUP332

Thanks for the help guy's, I guess I'm ether going to have to save up some more $$ or go a different way as to what I'm going to do with my motor. I would rather see my car sit than half-ass it and blow it up with a weak stock block .

How much horsepower do you plan on making?

50COUP332 · April 2nd, 2007, 11:01 PM

honestly I was wanting around 450 , my biggest problem is that I did not do hardly any research on the 347 that I wanted to build . instead I went out and just bought the parts kb forged pistons ,forged i-beam rods and the crank ,thinking I could slap it together and have a 347 , the cost of the parts that I already have was not that bad but I can't see dropping around $1000 into a stock block that I was told that would not make it past 60k miles being I'm not easy on my car, I just need it last longer than 60k . this is what the guy at the speed shop that I deal with told me he might be wrong I don't now .My wife already has a problem with how much $$$ that i have put into the car. Now I know that no matter what I do it could blowup I just don't want to egg it on with something like that on my first build .Instead I was thinking about a nice 306 , b- cam , the gt -40 intake that I already have and some good flowing heads . Right now I really don't now what to do .

sorry for writing a book .

ken5_0 · April 2nd, 2007, 11:40 PM

450hp. That DSS would be fine!!! Dont let the 347 scare you it will be just as reliable as a 306. The tech is up to par. All that oil burning and horror stories of the past are long been takin care of. Buy the DSS and a dozen roses for the wife and get back to sleeping in your bed. The couch is starting to fit your form to well and matresses are so much more comfy!

1slo5.0 · April 3rd, 2007, 06:12 AM

A stock block will hold 450 hp without a problem. Who said it wouldn't live past 60K miles? Kick him in the balls for talking so foolish.

ken5_0 · April 3rd, 2007, 10:36 AM

Shoot... Darrell is right, You already own a block that will handle that powerlevel! I thought you had your heart set on a new block. Now you can save your grand buy the wife 2 dozen roses and spend the $960 bucks you have left on other go fast goodies with the wifes blessing!!!

whiteboycustom · April 3rd, 2007, 10:41 AM

darrell, just so i know is that hitting the stock block with some boost and nos, by no means will my car be a daily driver and for it to get 60k miles that will take years, my motor has life left in it, just needs to be torn down and cleaned up and new gaskets

ken5_0 · April 3rd, 2007, 11:33 AM

I am not Darrell but I think I can answer this. The Block does not car how you make the power. It cares how fast you turn your crank. And it really cares if you run it LEAN under boost or if your timing is not set right with nitrous!!! Keep those in check and 500HP is no problem for a stock block.

whiteboycustom · April 3rd, 2007, 12:27 PM

works for me thanks!!!!

1slo5.0 · April 3rd, 2007, 02:44 PM

Originally Posted by ken5_0

I am not Darrell but I think I can answer this. The Block does not car how you make the power. It cares how fast you turn your crank. And it really cares if you run it LEAN under boost or if your timing is not set right with nitrous!!! Keep those in check and 500HP is no problem for a stock block.

Pretty much.

50COUP332 · April 5th, 2007, 06:35 AM

Is 450 a number I could reach with the parts I have , all forged internals ,afr 185's ? I do have a gt-40 but I'm getting a Trickflow R intake .Will this work or do I need to change something ... Once again thank's for the help .

1slo5.0 · April 5th, 2007, 08:41 AM

Originally Posted by 50COUP332

Is 450 a number I could reach with the parts I have , all forged internals ,afr 185's ? I do have a gt-40 but I'm getting a Trickflow R intake .Will this work or do I need to change something ... Once again thank's for the help .

A supercharger would make it easy. Otherwise you are going to have to stick alot of time and money into it. The AFR 185s should get you there but you will probably need a custom cam and a good tune. I'd find a good engine builder if I were you and let him do all of the dirty work.

April 1st, 2007, 01:04 AM	#1
50COUP332 Newbie Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: DELTONA ,FL Posts: 29 iTrader: 0 reviews	AFTERMARKET BLOCK Hey guy's what would you consider to be the best aftermarket block to build a 347 on a buget , I have seen some from DSS for about $950 - $1000 ready to go I beleve bored,notched . This is around what I will be spending at the local machine shop and waiting about 3-4 weeks to get it done. Now I'm not tring to break the bank just something solid and more reliable than the stock .I figure ether way I have to spend the cash might as well get something new/better ... THANKS PATRICK __________________ 86 NOTCHBACK

April 1st, 2007, 01:00 PM	#2
1slo5.0 MM Ninjas! 1990 Mustang LX 9.36@143 mph Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: North Fond du Lac, Wisconsin Posts: 11,375 iTrader: 1 reviews	An aftermarket block is going to run you close to $2000. I'd be willing to bet the block you are refering to from DSS is a glorified production block. __________________ My daily driver has 16 cylinders and 4400hp @ 1000 rpm.... ***1988 Mustang GT - Stock....almost

April 2nd, 2007, 03:17 AM	#7
Tony_90fox Banned Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Bowling Green, KY Posts: 3,831 iTrader: 0 reviews	it all depends on how much hp you want to run...The Dss and Chp blocks are just new stock blocks basically...As stated above, the World Products Man o War block or the Dart iron eagle or iron eagle sportsman are what you are going to want to get if you are wanting to push a good amount of hp and not have to worry about the block breaking. I would rather have too much block than riding the limits of a block any day. __________________ [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC] [B][U]MM Sapper Squad[/U][/B] [QUOTE=Regency 2007;1676187]MSO's stupidity has never stopped amazing me since the day he joined this forum.[/QUOTE]

April 2nd, 2007, 04:01 PM	#9
50COUP332 Newbie Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: DELTONA ,FL Posts: 29 iTrader: 0 reviews	Thanks for the help guy's, I guess I'm ether going to have to save up some more $$ or go a different way as to what I'm going to do with my motor. I would rather see my car sit than half-ass it and blow it up with a weak stock block . __________________ 86 NOTCHBACK

April 2nd, 2007, 11:01 PM	#11
50COUP332 Newbie Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: DELTONA ,FL Posts: 29 iTrader: 0 reviews	honestly I was wanting around 450 , my biggest problem is that I did not do hardly any research on the 347 that I wanted to build . instead I went out and just bought the parts kb forged pistons ,forged i-beam rods and the crank ,thinking I could slap it together and have a 347 , the cost of the parts that I already have was not that bad but I can't see dropping around $1000 into a stock block that I was told that would not make it past 60k miles being I'm not easy on my car, I just need it last longer than 60k . this is what the guy at the speed shop that I deal with told me he might be wrong I don't now .My wife already has a problem with how much $$$ that i have put into the car. Now I know that no matter what I do it could blowup I just don't want to egg it on with something like that on my first build .Instead I was thinking about a nice 306 , b- cam , the gt -40 intake that I already have and some good flowing heads . Right now I really don't now what to do . sorry for writing a book . __________________ 86 NOTCHBACK

April 1st, 2007, 11:00 PM	#4
NottyBoy93 Regular 1993 Notch, 1988 Notch Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Location, Location Posts: 156 iTrader: 0 reviews	World Product, Dart $2000+ W/O machine work Ford Racing $1700-1800 (Blocks alone) DSS runs great right up until they break if it is a stock block with a stroker kit thrown off in it. Money might not be able to buy happiness but it buys speed and quality.

April 2nd, 2007, 02:32 AM	#6
NottyBoy93 Regular 1993 Notch, 1988 Notch Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Location, Location Posts: 156 iTrader: 0 reviews	Fixed

April 2nd, 2007, 11:00 AM	#8
ken5_0 Regular 1990 GT Convert Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Prescott WI Posts: 203 iTrader: 0 reviews	So true Tony!!! Just think of the block as the foundation(cause it is). You wouldn't put $2,000,000 house on a popsicle stick foundation right? If your basically building a replacement stock motor then DSS is fine. Building a monster? Go with Dart or World!!!

April 2nd, 2007, 11:40 PM	#12
ken5_0 Regular 1990 GT Convert Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Prescott WI Posts: 203 iTrader: 0 reviews	450hp. That DSS would be fine!!! Dont let the 347 scare you it will be just as reliable as a 306. The tech is up to par. All that oil burning and horror stories of the past are long been takin care of. Buy the DSS and a dozen roses for the wife and get back to sleeping in your bed. The couch is starting to fit your form to well and matresses are so much more comfy!

April 3rd, 2007, 06:12 AM	#13
1slo5.0 MM Ninjas! 1990 Mustang LX 9.36@143 mph Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: North Fond du Lac, Wisconsin Posts: 11,375 iTrader: 1 reviews	A stock block will hold 450 hp without a problem. Who said it wouldn't live past 60K miles? Kick him in the balls for talking so foolish. __________________ My daily driver has 16 cylinders and 4400hp @ 1000 rpm.... ***1988 Mustang GT - Stock....almost

April 3rd, 2007, 10:36 AM	#14
ken5_0 Regular 1990 GT Convert Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Prescott WI Posts: 203 iTrader: 0 reviews	Shoot... Darrell is right, You already own a block that will handle that powerlevel! I thought you had your heart set on a new block. Now you can save your grand buy the wife 2 dozen roses and spend the $960 bucks you have left on other go fast goodies with the wifes blessing!!!

April 3rd, 2007, 10:41 AM	#15
whiteboycustom El Conquistador 83 coupe Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: vidor,texas Posts: 1,148 iTrader: 0 reviews	darrell, just so i know is that hitting the stock block with some boost and nos, by no means will my car be a daily driver and for it to get 60k miles that will take years, my motor has life left in it, just needs to be torn down and cleaned up and new gaskets __________________ http://www.donttearmedown.com/

April 3rd, 2007, 11:33 AM	#16
ken5_0 Regular 1990 GT Convert Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Prescott WI Posts: 203 iTrader: 0 reviews	I am not Darrell but I think I can answer this. The Block does not car how you make the power. It cares how fast you turn your crank. And it really cares if you run it LEAN under boost or if your timing is not set right with nitrous!!! Keep those in check and 500HP is no problem for a stock block.

April 3rd, 2007, 12:27 PM	#17
whiteboycustom El Conquistador 83 coupe Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: vidor,texas Posts: 1,148 iTrader: 0 reviews	works for me thanks!!!! __________________ http://www.donttearmedown.com/

April 5th, 2007, 06:35 AM	#19
50COUP332 Newbie Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: DELTONA ,FL Posts: 29 iTrader: 0 reviews	Is 450 a number I could reach with the parts I have , all forged internals ,afr 185's ? I do have a gt-40 but I'm getting a Trickflow R intake .Will this work or do I need to change something ... Once again thank's for the help . __________________ 86 NOTCHBACK

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