Clutch slipping already??

Digsj7 · October 28th, 2010, 11:51 AM

So, My friend has a 94 GT vert that we converted from an auto to a t-5. Everything was going great and driving fine for the last three weeks. I suppose he put on about 500 miles or so.

We took our cars to a 1/8th mile track over the weekend. He made 7 passes on street tires and only did a burnout 3 or 4 times. Going home, he called and said his clutch was slipping really bad. We had a hour and a half drive ahead of us. He made it home but his clutch is toast.

He went with a Ram clutch when we did the swap. I've always used Zoom and Centerforce, are Ram's that shitty? I am 100% confident the clutch was installed correctly ( I did it). What do you think?

95StangMX · October 28th, 2010, 01:25 PM

Either his driving, or bad installation (not adjusted right) or bad out of the box... I don't think even the worst clutch would fry that fast, even with a bad driver.

StangBanger302 · October 28th, 2010, 01:37 PM

Ram's are not bad at all. My transmission builder recommends them for high HP applications..Something was out of adjustment or he can't drive.

JBIGBOOTSY · October 28th, 2010, 03:36 PM

possibly not adjusted properly, grease or oil, any number of things. Glazed over friction material...

Ram makes good products tho, from my expierience.

Digsj7 · October 29th, 2010, 01:26 PM

Hmmm, I suppose it could have been his driving??? I did some more research and it's about 80-20 for people approving of Rams. I sprayed the pressure plate down with carb cleaner before I installed and wiped the clutch down with paper towels to get anything off of it before I installed. We did have a problem with his clutch cable though, he bought a quadrant out of an 96 and a cable for a 94. He drove it like this for a day and it was a bitch to get in gear. Bought a cable for a 96 and everything was cake. I guess that one day of driving it could have done quite a bit of damage....???

gripthenboost · October 29th, 2010, 01:45 PM

sounds like it wasn't adjusted properly so during hard shifts it would burn the clutch. New clutch and a new steeda quadrent and adjust it properly, FTW

Stangzilla · October 29th, 2010, 02:04 PM

Just an FYI I do not recommend spraying the pressure plate down with carb cleaner. I use brake clean for shit like that.. some carb cleaners leave a residue after they evaporate & Brake clean does not. might not be a big deal but thats what i do

ddarkslayer · October 29th, 2010, 02:13 PM

don't you have to pussy clutch it for the first 500 miles on stage 1 clutches and 1000 on stage 2 and 3 clutches?

93hatch · October 29th, 2010, 02:55 PM

Originally Posted by ddarkslayer

don't you have to pussy clutch it for the first 500 miles on stage 1 clutches and 1000 on stage 2 and 3 clutches?

broke my king cobra in for maybe 30 miles before goin to the track, looked great when I pulled it off a few months ago

Digsj7 · October 30th, 2010, 10:55 AM

He ordered a centerfoce...Looks like we're doing it again.

95tbirdv8 · October 30th, 2010, 05:07 PM

That happened to me. I have the ram clutch too. I took it all apart and it was slipping because there was oil in there from my oil pan gasket leaking

StangBanger302 · October 30th, 2010, 05:11 PM

Originally Posted by Digsj7

He ordered a centerfoce...Looks like we're doing it again.

That sucks, clutch jobs aren't fun. Especially when you're doing it with a guy who just had shoulder surgery

91cobra5.0 · October 30th, 2010, 05:49 PM

Ram clutches are pos in my opinion I had a ram stage 1 clutch and it was heavy and started slipping when I sprayed it, went with an act stage 1 and its light grabs hard on motor or nitrous and is rated jigher than the ram, I'm using It with a steeda quick release clutch quadrant, a firewall adjuster and works perfect

91cobra5.0 · October 30th, 2010, 05:57 PM

Ram clutches are pos in my opinion I had a ram stage 1 clutch and it was heavy and started slipping when I sprayed it, went with an act stage 1 and its light grabs hard on motor or nitrous and is rated jigher than the ram, I'm using It with a steeda quick release clutch quadrant, a firewall adjuster and works perfect

FastStang91Lx · October 30th, 2010, 06:23 PM

Originally Posted by Digsj7

I am 100% confident the clutch was installed correctly ( I did it). What do you think?

Maybe you just THINK you know what you are doing?

Maybe you'll find the issue when you change it, as in an oil leak or something. You did put a pilot bearing in the crank when you did the swap right? Not sure if that would cause anything, but that's all I could think of. I used a ram before with good results. Pedal was lighter than whatever was in the car when I got it. Good luck, but I think you'll like the centerforce better. Aftermarket quad adjuster kit FTW though.

TooSlo86 · October 31st, 2010, 12:21 AM

I would have to agree with the all of the above, I had nearly the same thing happen w/my new centerforce. While I sat in the staging beams @ 5k rpm the clutch was getting cooked which rendered it useless on the 2-3 and 3-4 shifts in the 1/4 mile. Readjusted the bulkhead adjuster, drove it for a good couple months on the street and last time at the track, no problems from the same clutch. Make sure you get that thing adjusted!

Digsj7 · November 1st, 2010, 09:39 AM

[QUOTE=FastStang91Lx;3266175]Maybe you just THINK you know what you are doing?

He did mention that his rear main was leaking a little, so that could be the issue...

October 28th, 2010, 11:51 AM	#1
Digsj7 Enthusiast 1993 Mustang LX my dog runs faster... Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Columbus NE Posts: 626 iTrader: 0 reviews	Clutch slipping already?? So, My friend has a 94 GT vert that we converted from an auto to a t-5. Everything was going great and driving fine for the last three weeks. I suppose he put on about 500 miles or so. We took our cars to a 1/8th mile track over the weekend. He made 7 passes on street tires and only did a burnout 3 or 4 times. Going home, he called and said his clutch was slipping really bad. We had a hour and a half drive ahead of us. He made it home but his clutch is toast. He went with a Ram clutch when we did the swap. I've always used Zoom and Centerforce, are Ram's that shitty? I am 100% confident the clutch was installed correctly ( I did it). What do you think? __________________ CAI, GT40 Intake, GT40P heads, 1.72 RR, 70mm Accufab, UPR Control arms, Hedman Headers, Mac H-Pipe, Flows, Pro-5.0, 3.73 Gears, BBK caster/camber kit, Eibach springs, Subframe Connectors, 5 lug conversion, MM+Cleavage Club Member #19

October 28th, 2010, 01:25 PM	#2
95StangMX MM Fanatic 95 Mustang GT depends how many people are pushing Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Playa del Carmen, Mexico Posts: 3,243 iTrader: 0 reviews	Either his driving, or bad installation (not adjusted right) or bad out of the box... I don't think even the worst clutch would fry that fast, even with a bad driver. __________________ People should think about boarding up their glass house before starting a rock fight!

October 28th, 2010, 01:37 PM	#3
StangBanger302 Hardcore Enthusiast 1992 Mustang LX 13.0 @ 105 Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: New York Posts: 2,230 iTrader: 0 reviews	Ram's are not bad at all. My transmission builder recommends them for high HP applications..Something was out of adjustment or he can't drive. __________________ As I lay rubber down the street I pray for traction I can keep But if I spin, and begin to slide Please dear God, protect my ride

October 28th, 2010, 03:36 PM	#4
JBIGBOOTSY MM Fanatic 1990 LX hatch Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Hobart Indiana Posts: 4,391 iTrader: 0 reviews	possibly not adjusted properly, grease or oil, any number of things. Glazed over friction material... Ram makes good products tho, from my expierience. __________________ Bolt-on Abraham Lincoln Log motor. With extra wiring.

October 29th, 2010, 01:26 PM	#5
Digsj7 Enthusiast 1993 Mustang LX my dog runs faster... Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Columbus NE Posts: 626 iTrader: 0 reviews	Hmmm, I suppose it could have been his driving??? I did some more research and it's about 80-20 for people approving of Rams. I sprayed the pressure plate down with carb cleaner before I installed and wiped the clutch down with paper towels to get anything off of it before I installed. We did have a problem with his clutch cable though, he bought a quadrant out of an 96 and a cable for a 94. He drove it like this for a day and it was a bitch to get in gear. Bought a cable for a 96 and everything was cake. I guess that one day of driving it could have done quite a bit of damage....??? __________________ CAI, GT40 Intake, GT40P heads, 1.72 RR, 70mm Accufab, UPR Control arms, Hedman Headers, Mac H-Pipe, Flows, Pro-5.0, 3.73 Gears, BBK caster/camber kit, Eibach springs, Subframe Connectors, 5 lug conversion, MM+Cleavage Club Member #19

October 29th, 2010, 01:45 PM	#6
gripthenboost Hardcore Enthusiast 91 Mustang GT 1991 sliver GT Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: New York Posts: 1,213 iTrader: 0 reviews	sounds like it wasn't adjusted properly so during hard shifts it would burn the clutch. New clutch and a new steeda quadrent and adjust it properly, FTW

October 29th, 2010, 02:04 PM	#7
Stangzilla MM Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: On my way to Baines's house!! Posts: 3,298 iTrader: 0 reviews	Just an FYI I do not recommend spraying the pressure plate down with carb cleaner. I use brake clean for shit like that.. some carb cleaners leave a residue after they evaporate & Brake clean does not. might not be a big deal but thats what i do __________________ Rotating The Earth 1320 Feet At A Time!! Today, I found out that when I masturbate at night while watching internet porn I cast a huge shadow on the curtain and the entire street is able to see it.

October 29th, 2010, 02:13 PM	#8
ddarkslayer Hardcore Enthusiast 1988 Mustang 5.0 LX 12.48@118.27 Join Date: May 2009 Location: Folsom, CA Posts: 1,446 iTrader: 0 reviews	don't you have to pussy clutch it for the first 500 miles on stage 1 clutches and 1000 on stage 2 and 3 clutches?

October 30th, 2010, 10:55 AM	#10
Digsj7 Enthusiast 1993 Mustang LX my dog runs faster... Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Columbus NE Posts: 626 iTrader: 0 reviews	He ordered a centerfoce...Looks like we're doing it again. __________________ CAI, GT40 Intake, GT40P heads, 1.72 RR, 70mm Accufab, UPR Control arms, Hedman Headers, Mac H-Pipe, Flows, Pro-5.0, 3.73 Gears, BBK caster/camber kit, Eibach springs, Subframe Connectors, 5 lug conversion, MM+Cleavage Club Member #19

October 30th, 2010, 05:07 PM	#11
95tbirdv8 Enthusiast 1990 mustang gt Join Date: May 2010 Location: houston, tx Posts: 627 iTrader: 0 reviews	That happened to me. I have the ram clutch too. I took it all apart and it was slipping because there was oil in there from my oil pan gasket leaking __________________ Burning Rubber in the 5.0 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mKGSmRkKQcM95 95 mark8 lsc 95 tbird v8 90 mustang gt 07 silverado v8 08 yamaha r6 to be continued........ foxbodyperformance.com is the way to go

October 30th, 2010, 05:49 PM	#13
91cobra5.0 Hardcore Enthusiast 98 Cobra Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Bay Area, Ca Posts: 2,057 iTrader: 0 reviews	Ram clutches are pos in my opinion I had a ram stage 1 clutch and it was heavy and started slipping when I sprayed it, went with an act stage 1 and its light grabs hard on motor or nitrous and is rated jigher than the ram, I'm using It with a steeda quick release clutch quadrant, a firewall adjuster and works perfect

October 30th, 2010, 05:57 PM	#14
91cobra5.0 Hardcore Enthusiast 98 Cobra Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Bay Area, Ca Posts: 2,057 iTrader: 0 reviews	Ram clutches are pos in my opinion I had a ram stage 1 clutch and it was heavy and started slipping when I sprayed it, went with an act stage 1 and its light grabs hard on motor or nitrous and is rated jigher than the ram, I'm using It with a steeda quick release clutch quadrant, a firewall adjuster and works perfect

October 31st, 2010, 12:21 AM	#16
TooSlo86 Newbie 1986 Mustang LX 12.29@111 Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Elsie, Michigan Posts: 28 iTrader: 0 reviews	I would have to agree with the all of the above, I had nearly the same thing happen w/my new centerforce. While I sat in the staging beams @ 5k rpm the clutch was getting cooked which rendered it useless on the 2-3 and 3-4 shifts in the 1/4 mile. Readjusted the bulkhead adjuster, drove it for a good couple months on the street and last time at the track, no problems from the same clutch. Make sure you get that thing adjusted! __________________ '86 LX, '97 Explorer bottom end & GT40Ps, AFM B-21, TFS v/s, retainers & pushrods, Pro Products upper/lower, 70MM TB, & EGR, 03-04 MAF, BBK 1515's, A9L, Moates QHTuner, FRPP 4.30, HD Z-code 12.29@111mph Mid Michigan Motorplex 4-22-12

November 1st, 2010, 09:39 AM	#17
Digsj7 Enthusiast 1993 Mustang LX my dog runs faster... Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Columbus NE Posts: 626 iTrader: 0 reviews	[QUOTE=FastStang91Lx;3266175]Maybe you just THINK you know what you are doing? He did mention that his rear main was leaking a little, so that could be the issue... __________________ CAI, GT40 Intake, GT40P heads, 1.72 RR, 70mm Accufab, UPR Control arms, Hedman Headers, Mac H-Pipe, Flows, Pro-5.0, 3.73 Gears, BBK caster/camber kit, Eibach springs, Subframe Connectors, 5 lug conversion, MM+Cleavage Club Member #19

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