[orangestang42]

Ok i have been wanting to install a set of shorty headers on my 1995 5.0 and i have been goin back and forth about it. I have read that the gains are not really worth the trouble, is this really true? My motor is stock and i want to do headers first because i have the rest of the exhaust already done. I know the sound will improve pretty good but i wanna see some good performance gains to. Also where is a good place to get good deals on headers. I cant find any used on ebay so i guess everybvody is grabbing them up. I also heard longtube headers give the most power but the reason i want to do shorties instead is because i would have to go back under and cut my x pipe and have the exhaust re-fabbed to fit and i dont really want to do that

[ryanw]

i dont know what price range your looking at but here are a few i found some are no name headers but they got to flow better then stock 1994 1995 Ford Mustang GT GTS 5.0L V8 OHV Shorty Header - eBay (item 190472810287 end time Dec-02-10 22:01:14 PST) 1979-1995 FORD MUSTANG V8 5.0L 302cid STAINLESS HEADER - eBay (item 170540528499 end time Dec-13-10 16:45:40 PST) 94-95 Mustang GT Pypes Shorty Exhaust Headers Stainless - eBay (item 150504300253 end time Dec-07-10 14:17:04 PST) Hooker 6132 Short Tube 1994-1995 Ford Mustang - eBay (item 260693790234 end time Dec-16-10 00:55:11 PST)

[ryanw]

If you have already done the rest of your exhaust you may as well finish it. The HP gain will be small since your motors stock but it will set you up for future modds, you will see higher gains as you add to your set up. you dont want your exhaust to hold you back. just my opinion

[orangestang42]

the ones for $149 arent too bad, i was lookin to stay around 100 if possible maybe go to like 120 but thats about it, and i was looking to get a used set. But the ones for $200 + are more than i really wanted to spend, i did find one on ebay. the guy said they are MAC aftermarket headers but idk about that, they look stock to me, the onky thing i did see was the little metal plate on the one which leads me to believe they are aftermarket but i cant read it

Headers for Mustang 5.0 - eBay (item 290506417910 end time Dec-06-10 16:48:53 PST)

[ryanw]

i dont know about those.... If you hold out youll find some thing other wise i think you need to set aside 200 dollars for a set minimum..... i mean you were just looking to upgrade your Throttle Body, youll see a high gain in HP with the headers then you would with a TB.

[orangestang42]

yeah i see, i have a habit of jumping around with parts..lol, i decided that since i havent totally finished the exhaust yet, i would put the headers on and be done with it

[Firaga]

I bought a set of BBK shorties, couldn't install them, too difficult. They're still sitting in my garage..

[orangestang42]

how much are you looking to get for them and will they fit a 1995?

[93hatch]

95 has a smog tube that foxes dont, and the install is fucking easy. But you really wont notice crap, sound or performance wise, especially on a stockish motor

[FastStang91Lx]

Originally Posted by Firaga I bought a set of BBK shorties, couldn't install them, too difficult. They're still sitting in my garage..

HUH? It's easier than an intake swap, lol. Kids nowadays... you buy 'em books and they just eat them...

















Just kidding!

[orangestang42]

lol, well im not getting them unless i come across a good deal, which might not be for a little while

[andy23]

Originally Posted by orangestang42 Headers for Mustang 5.0 - eBay (item 290506417910 end time Dec-06-10 16:48:53 PST)

Those look like Mac headers to me. They have the individual flanges for each tube, and they have that silver coating that actually holds up pretty good.

[orangestang42]

if they dont go much higher than 75 ill prolly bite but not much more than that

[FastStang91Lx]

Yep, Mac they are. The silver coating generally doesn't hold up well, I'd say they weren't run long. Looks like you'd need new header to h-pipe studs since there's only one on them, and new gaskets. 75 tops! Hell, I gave away my old Mac shorties, but they reguired a prybar to get bolts to line up again, lol.

[fogged306]

Originally Posted by 93hatch 95 has a smog tube that foxes dont, and the install is fucking easy. But you really wont notice crap, sound or performance wise, especially on a stockish motor

+1 dont waste your money. Besides stock headers are actually made by mac.

[andy23]

Originally Posted by FastStang91Lx Yep, Mac they are. The silver coating generally doesn't hold up well, I'd say they weren't run long.

Mine didn't look much worse than those after 5 1/2 years of use. I live in Tennessee though, so that might have a little to do with it. We don't have as harsh of a winter as MN.

[FastStang91Lx]

Lol... I don't run my car in the winter. Though it got driven to storage after they salted the roads once before putting it away one year. I hosed the body off, but prolly not the motor ... maybe that did it, or went lean once and cooked 'em.

[Firaga]

Originally Posted by FastStang91Lx HUH? It's easier than an intake swap, lol. Kids nowadays... you buy 'em books and they just eat them... Just kidding!

I just couldn't get anything to line up right when bolting it onto the head.

[orangestang42]

well I live in florida so i really dont have to worry about the salt... but i did hear that the stock ones flow pretty good, i guess the omly difference is the size of the piping..if this would only be for sound it would be worth it but how much more sound will i get from bringin the stock 2 1/4 headers to the 2 1/2 aftermarket ones

[fogged306]

You won't notice hardly any sound difference at all. The stock ones don't flow good at all, but if you're still running a mostly stock engine they're not hurting anything. The only noticeable gain you'll see is if you go with a good set of longtubes, but you said you didn't want to go that route, and there's much better places to spend the money anyway in your case. if you're looking to change the sound of your car then go with different mufflers. On a mostly stock engine, that's the route that's going to make the most dramatic change in sound... like you asked in your first post and it was answered a few times.. With a stock engine, headers aren't going to do you much, if any, good at all. With all other things being equal, most headers sound about the same.