Short Tubes

KLG73 · December 5th, 2010, 08:35 PM

What are the best shorty headers on the market?

FastStang91Lx · December 5th, 2010, 09:00 PM

They'll all be about the same... steer clear from MAC shorties, and buy something ceramic coated if you can. Will look good long after others won't. Why shorties?

KLG73 · December 5th, 2010, 09:29 PM

haha it had macs on it when I got it and you know how painted headers end up looking so I would like to get some better ones. And its lowered pretty good so I really dont want long tubes hanging further down...

fogged306 · December 5th, 2010, 09:36 PM

Check out andersons headers, as far as shorties go they look like they make some pretty well designed ones.

FastStang91Lx · December 5th, 2010, 09:38 PM

I see. Just keep in mind that not all longtubes will hang, and you will give up some hp, although depending on your mods, it might not be squat. Just trying to help you avoid spending money twice. As far as shorties go... I just sold some used ceramic JBA's that looked really good after who knows how many years since I bought them used also. And I believe it's RyanW that has JBA ceramics that he's had on his car for 12 years and he said they still look good.

moneymo · December 5th, 2010, 10:43 PM

So longtube are the better investment than the shorties?

fogged306 · December 5th, 2010, 10:46 PM

Originally Posted by moneymo

So longtube are the better investment than the shorties?

Yes, longtubes can scavenge exhaust gasses and shorties can't, at least not nearly as well. With the right system, longtubes will always make more power than shorties.

moneymo · December 5th, 2010, 10:52 PM

Ok cause i have a 306 with bbk shorties and they look like crap from the horse carriage 200yrs ago..

. So im going to invest in longtube headers before the yr is out. Thanks fogged 306

fogged306 · December 5th, 2010, 11:02 PM

No prob. Keep in mind that you'll need a new mid-pipe too. If you use an off road one, then it'll be cheap. Mid-pipes for longtube headers are always cheaper than ones for shorty headers.

moneymo · December 5th, 2010, 11:10 PM

Originally Posted by fogged306

No prob. Keep in mind that you'll need a new mid-pipe too. If you use an off road one, then it'll be cheap. Mid-pipes for longtube headers are always cheaper than ones for shorty headers.

Cool i never knew that. So i can just look for some off road mid pipes. This will be something i can just do in my garage? Im not going to want the cats, just the pipes..lol

FastStang91Lx · December 5th, 2010, 11:11 PM

And the choice between h and x mid pipe is basically more of a sound thing than anything. Supposedly an X will pick up a tad more hp at high rpm, but I couldn't tell ya firsthand if that is true or not. H sounds deeper, x is raspier.

FastStang91Lx · December 5th, 2010, 11:12 PM

All you need is a jack and jackstands, my friend.

moneymo · December 5th, 2010, 11:26 PM

Yea i have the H pipe, and i enjoy the bass that i get when i drive.lol. So im going to keep it most likely.
Thats a good project, thank God its not as cold down here in Georgia..ha ha

FastStang91Lx · December 5th, 2010, 11:45 PM

it was 5 degrees when I was outside a little bit ago, lol

fogged306 · December 6th, 2010, 11:05 AM

Originally Posted by moneymo

Cool i never knew that. So i can just look for some off road mid pipes. This will be something i can just do in my garage? Im not going to want the cats, just the pipes..lol

Yea it's not bad to install headers at all. Just be prepared to take the steering shaft off (depending on the headers you buy) and if you unbolt the motor mounts and jack up the engine a little it makes life a lot easier. All said and done I went from shorties to longtubes in about an hour and a half.

December 5th, 2010, 08:35 PM	#1
KLG73 Newbie Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 19 iTrader: 0 reviews	Short Tubes What are the best shorty headers on the market?

December 5th, 2010, 09:00 PM	#2
FastStang91Lx I Post Entirely Way Too Much 1991 Mustang LX 5.0 Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Minnesota Posts: 5,572 iTrader: 2 reviews	They'll all be about the same... steer clear from MAC shorties, and buy something ceramic coated if you can. Will look good long after others won't. Why shorties? __________________ Point made in less than a few hours with minimal response. http://www.moddedmustangs.com/forums...ml#post4465184

December 5th, 2010, 09:38 PM	#5
FastStang91Lx I Post Entirely Way Too Much 1991 Mustang LX 5.0 Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Minnesota Posts: 5,572 iTrader: 2 reviews	I see. Just keep in mind that not all longtubes will hang, and you will give up some hp, although depending on your mods, it might not be squat. Just trying to help you avoid spending money twice. As far as shorties go... I just sold some used ceramic JBA's that looked really good after who knows how many years since I bought them used also. And I believe it's RyanW that has JBA ceramics that he's had on his car for 12 years and he said they still look good. __________________ Point made in less than a few hours with minimal response. http://www.moddedmustangs.com/forums...ml#post4465184

December 5th, 2010, 10:43 PM	#6
moneymo Premium Member 1991 Mustang Gt 5.0 Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Grayson, GA Posts: 197 iTrader: 0 reviews	So longtube are the better investment than the shorties? __________________ 91 Mustang Gt 306/Under Drive Pulleys/gt40 heads/ so many more goodies

December 5th, 2010, 10:52 PM	#8
moneymo Premium Member 1991 Mustang Gt 5.0 Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Grayson, GA Posts: 197 iTrader: 0 reviews	Ok cause i have a 306 with bbk shorties and they look like crap from the horse carriage 200yrs ago.. . So im going to invest in longtube headers before the yr is out. Thanks fogged 306 __________________ 91 Mustang Gt 306/Under Drive Pulleys/gt40 heads/ so many more goodies

December 5th, 2010, 09:29 PM	#3
KLG73 Newbie Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 19 iTrader: 0 reviews	haha it had macs on it when I got it and you know how painted headers end up looking so I would like to get some better ones. And its lowered pretty good so I really dont want long tubes hanging further down...

December 5th, 2010, 09:36 PM	#4
fogged306 MM Fanatic 89 GT Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: NY Posts: 4,875 iTrader: 2 reviews	Check out andersons headers, as far as shorties go they look like they make some pretty well designed ones.

December 5th, 2010, 11:02 PM	#9
fogged306 MM Fanatic 89 GT Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: NY Posts: 4,875 iTrader: 2 reviews	No prob. Keep in mind that you'll need a new mid-pipe too. If you use an off road one, then it'll be cheap. Mid-pipes for longtube headers are always cheaper than ones for shorty headers.

December 5th, 2010, 11:11 PM	#11
FastStang91Lx I Post Entirely Way Too Much 1991 Mustang LX 5.0 Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Minnesota Posts: 5,572 iTrader: 2 reviews	And the choice between h and x mid pipe is basically more of a sound thing than anything. Supposedly an X will pick up a tad more hp at high rpm, but I couldn't tell ya firsthand if that is true or not. H sounds deeper, x is raspier. __________________ Point made in less than a few hours with minimal response. http://www.moddedmustangs.com/forums...ml#post4465184

December 5th, 2010, 11:12 PM	#12
FastStang91Lx I Post Entirely Way Too Much 1991 Mustang LX 5.0 Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Minnesota Posts: 5,572 iTrader: 2 reviews	All you need is a jack and jackstands, my friend. __________________ Point made in less than a few hours with minimal response. http://www.moddedmustangs.com/forums...ml#post4465184

December 5th, 2010, 11:26 PM	#13
moneymo Premium Member 1991 Mustang Gt 5.0 Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Grayson, GA Posts: 197 iTrader: 0 reviews	Yea i have the H pipe, and i enjoy the bass that i get when i drive.lol. So im going to keep it most likely. Thats a good project, thank God its not as cold down here in Georgia..ha ha __________________ 91 Mustang Gt 306/Under Drive Pulleys/gt40 heads/ so many more goodies

December 5th, 2010, 11:45 PM	#14
FastStang91Lx I Post Entirely Way Too Much 1991 Mustang LX 5.0 Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Minnesota Posts: 5,572 iTrader: 2 reviews	it was 5 degrees when I was outside a little bit ago, lol __________________ Point made in less than a few hours with minimal response. http://www.moddedmustangs.com/forums...ml#post4465184

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