[brimmer555]

Need educated on the pros and cons of the E303, B303, and F303 cams for a 1989 5.0 mustang.

Thanks

[ryanw]

do you have to pass smog in your area ? The reason i ask is some of those cams you listed are not smog legal

[brimmer555]

Yep, they check or do whatever testing they have to do for smog.

[FastStang91Lx]

Than you are stuck with the 'E'. Some people say that they have passed emissions with the TF Stage 1, but I couldn't verify that. I would also imagine that if you ordered a custom one, it could be ground to pass as well.

[brimmer555]

Originally Posted by FastStang91Lx Than you are stuck with the 'E'. Some people say that they have passed emissions with the TF Stage 1, but I couldn't verify that. I would also imagine that if you ordered a custom one, it could be ground to pass as well.

I like the sound of the B cam. which one give you the most power? and i'm not suprized that I would be stuck with one option

[FastStang91Lx]

Couldn't tell ya if one is more powerful than the next. They are all junk. I've had an E and my buddy had an F. Not impressive in comparison to just about any other OTS cam.

[FastStang91Lx]

I really wish you had a 'none' on your poll, cuz I can't vote for any of those listed, but I'm curious as to how many people voted them to be good.

[93hatch]

Lolll I remember sean passing the sniffer with my 347 p heads tfs2 smog legal cam lol lol lol lol

[FastStang91Lx]

Really? That's awesome.... Lucky I don't have to worry up here, but good to know!

[Drick]

Yeah im glad I live in a state where there is no emmisons! WOOT

Anyway. I cannot vote. Its like voting in the 2008 president elections all over again

[brimmer555]

LMAO that sucks. They are really that bad? I want that cool loabing sound. I know that may sound amature or whatever but it sounds cool to me.

So what cam would be good then? what about cams from voodoo or whatever they are called. I see their add in my 5.0 and muscle mustangs magz.

[Drick]

Whatever you want. But for the same money or a tad more you can get a great cam that will have good sound and a power increase. The Ford cams are way outdated and are worth their money in scrap steal if you ask me.

Trick Flow stage 1 is a good one and Faststang said he'd sell you his for 130. You could also go with a Trick Flow stage 2.

If your running a stock top end then there is no reason to have a huge lift or anything. Just get something under .5 lift.

A crower 15511 is nice too. Ive heard nothing but good things on that when i've looked around at cams

[Drick]

Crower 15511 - Crower Performance Level 2 Camshafts - Overview - SummitRacing.com

theres the crower

Heres a couple Trick Flows.

Trick Flow Specialties TFS-51402000 - Trick Flow® Track Max® Hydraulic Roller Camshafts for Ford 5.0L - Overview - SummitRacing.com

^thats probably the one faststang is selling

And then a stage 2. But IMO if your on a stock top end with only a cam then you dont need a lift anywhere over .5
Trick Flow Specialties TFS-51402001 - Trick Flow® Track Max® Hydraulic Roller Camshafts for Ford 5.0L - Overview - SummitRacing.com


Personally out of the three I just posted, I would go with the TF stage 1. And just buy it from faststang to save some cash. Its a great cam and 100x better than any of those letter cams.

But if you want to do your own looking, then go with something in the area of a .460-.490 lift. With a moderate amount of duration. Not a huge amount.

That F cam you posted up there is completely ridiculous for a stock top end anyway lol. You'd barely even be able to flow enough air to make it to where that cam makes power.

[brimmer555]

Originally Posted by Drick Crower 15511 - Crower Performance Level 2 Camshafts - Overview - SummitRacing.com theres the crower Heres a couple Trick Flows. Trick Flow Specialties TFS-51402000 - Trick Flow® Track Max® Hydraulic Roller Camshafts for Ford 5.0L - Overview - SummitRacing.com ^thats probably the one faststang is selling And then a stage 2. But IMO if your on a stock top end with only a cam then you dont need a lift anywhere over .5 Trick Flow Specialties TFS-51402001 - Trick Flow® Track Max® Hydraulic Roller Camshafts for Ford 5.0L - Overview - SummitRacing.com Personally out of the three I just posted, I would go with the TF stage 1. And just buy it from faststang to save some cash. Its a great cam and 100x better than any of those letter cams. But if you want to do your own looking, then go with something in the area of a .460-.490 lift. With a moderate amount of duration. Not a huge amount. That F cam you posted up there is completely ridiculous for a stock top end anyway lol. You'd barely even be able to flow enough air to make it to where that cam makes power.

Alittle later on down the road i'm thinking of putting GT40P heads with 1.7 RR

The heads an intake and all that mess will mostlikely come before the cam.

so lets say I have the GT40P heads. and i'm kinda thinkin about one of those elbow intakes instead of the big stock looking types of upper intakes.
sorry i am all over the place it's my ADHD and whatever size injectors and MAF and TB.

[OmniEquipped]

If lope is what you're after, it comes from duration as opposed to lift. The B cam is higher duration; the E is higher lift. I'm running an E right now. It's probably not as good as some of the new stuff (I built mine 10 years ago and used the E as somewhat of an experiment because I had never used one) but I wouldn't call it "Junk". I'm moderately happy with it, all things considered. More important than sound, you also need to consider at what RPM you want your power to kick in, this of course determined by what type of driving you're building it for. For a street car, you would probably want low to mid range. For a race car you may want better top-end. My setup is for street and the E really starts kicking at around 3500 rpm. I'm considering a cam swap at some point myself. Since my application is in a truck (a bit heavier than a car) I'd like to find something to help out on low-end.

[brimmer555]

This is the intake I think I am interested in.

[brimmer555]

Originally Posted by OmniEquipped If lope is what you're after, it comes from duration as opposed to lift. The B cam is higher duration; the E is higher lift. I'm running an E right now. It's probably not as good as some of the new stuff (I built mine 10 years ago and used the E as somewhat of an experiment because I had never used one) but I wouldn't call it "Junk". I'm moderately happy with it, all things considered. More important than sound, you also need to consider at what RPM you want your power to kick in, this of course determined by what type of driving you're building it for. For a street car, you would probably want low to mid range. For a race car you may want better top-end. My setup is for street and the E really starts kicking at around 3500 rpm. I'm considering a cam swap at some point myself. Since my application is in a truck (a bit heavier than a car) I'd like to find something to help out on low-end.

My driving will be agressive street driving, but I want it to be fun to drive.
I would want the power to kick in around 2500-3000rpm.

[FastStang91Lx]

I'm running the stage 2 cam now, since I've got TF 185 heads. It's a great cam for me, but I can't imagine that it would do anything worth a crap on a stock headed car. The next motor will get a custom Bullet cam, but this one wasn't even close to a complete combo since I was, and still am, changing things as I go. The trickflow cams are nice, but they too aren't the end all be all. But with that being said, the Stage 1 is really more up your alley with what you have now, and what heads (gt40) that you plan on going with in the future. And as far as the elbow intake... That's not what you're looking for in a 'aggressive' street application, lol. Plus, you'll have more money wrapped up in that then a traditional intake.

Edit: just looked at that Crower... That would be a good cam as well.

[Drick]

That Crower is what I was going to get in my setup. But after more research im sticking with the sstock 86 cam. I guess its actually pretty aggresive compared to later years and with new heads and intake it will really open up

[brimmer555]

Originally Posted by FastStang91Lx I'm running the stage 2 cam now, since I've got TF 185 heads. It's a great cam for me, but I can't imagine that it would do anything worth a crap on a stock headed car. The next motor will get a custom Bullet cam, but this one wasn't even close to a complete combo since I was, and still am, changing things as I go. The trickflow cams are nice, but they too aren't the end all be all. But with that being said, the Stage 1 is really more up your alley with what you have now, and what heads (gt40) that you plan on going with in the future. And as far as the elbow intake... That's not what you're looking for in a 'aggressive' street application, lol. Plus, you'll have more money wrapped up in that then a traditional intake. Edit: just looked at that Crower... That would be a good cam as well.

Why would the elbow intake cost more, and not be a good aggressive intake? i've seen them on a few really nasty fast mustangs in the Magz.