question about "big" intakes...

302Army187 · February 28th, 2011, 03:30 AM

So I might be changin' a few things up. don't want to say to much, as the "deal" im getting might fall through.

But part of it is a edelbrock Victor 5.0 intake upper/lower. I think the lower has been ported a bit. I was told it was opened up, and it looked it, but no recipts or proof of said job.

I have a typhoon right now. I had been planning on keeping it, as I paid to have the lower ported out pretty good a while ago, and I ported the upper a bit myself. Just opening up the throttle body mounting area, and then cleaned out all the extra crap in the intake runners.

Peak power will be 5,700-6,300 ish, so nothing wild.... still a 302 also.

So is the edelbrock victor going to be over kill?

even with the porting of the typhoon, im sure the victor will have a big jump in power over 5,000 rpm. probably even sooner, like 4,500.

but as far as anything lower then that, am I going to lose a ton of power from 4,500 and under? I know on good set ups losing low down poewr is a joke. but with my off the shelf BS cam, I am a little worried, but that might be going away soon too.....

Just want your guys thoughts. I will probably go ahead with the deal ether way, but just got my mind buzzing about the change.

Rob

StangBanger302 · February 28th, 2011, 10:54 AM

Ditch that typhoon and grab the fuckin victor. All day. 1slo5.0 used a victor 5.0 with almost the same setup as you. Except he had the stage 1 cam, not the stage 2.

jat · February 28th, 2011, 03:51 PM

to big for what? what heads do you have? cam? etc.

i am running a fully ported victor5.0 and 185cc heads with a high lift low duration cam on a stock shortblock.

302Army187 · February 28th, 2011, 05:03 PM

its not that I don't think it will work. its more so that im just thinking about the new set up a lot, haha.

I know people run big intakes, or box intakes with great success, but the only builds I know of are normally with really good parts, like 93hatch's custom cam, ported heads, and a 347. which is in a whole other ball field compared to my set up.

my set up for those that done know is: rebuilt explorer motor 302, mildly ported track heat twisted wedge o-ringed heads, and for now.....off the shelf stage 2 cam, a typhoon intake, ported a bit, like stated before.

full bolt on's, electric fan, a/c and emissions delete, aluminum driveshaft, 4.10's blah blah blah.

StangBanger302 · February 28th, 2011, 06:33 PM

Fuckin do it. Don't pussy foot with that typhoon anymore. Dump it, and grab that victor for sure. It'll be good with your setup.

302Army187 · February 28th, 2011, 06:58 PM

like I said, as long all the other parts look good, and not wore out, im defiantly getting everything.

has two seasons of racing on the parts im buying, but the car ran a 10.8 as a best past, and consistent 11.2's at my elevation when dialed back a little to be consistent.

I hope to replicate the same.

(which would be mid/low 10's at sea level)

I'll revel the parts come Saturday, if I end up buying them.

StangBanger302 · February 28th, 2011, 07:15 PM

Damn...Now I wanna know what they are.

ryanw · February 28th, 2011, 09:10 PM

Originally Posted by StangBanger302

Damn...Now I wanna know what they are.

+1

come on just tell us what the other stuff is that your getting

302Army187 · February 28th, 2011, 09:42 PM

loose lips sink ships!

FastStang91Lx · February 28th, 2011, 09:46 PM

So do cannonballs

302Army187 · February 28th, 2011, 09:53 PM

Originally Posted by FastStang91Lx

So do cannonballs

I'm planning on walking softly and carrying a big stick

93hatch · February 28th, 2011, 11:06 PM

only do it if youre gona have it milled to fit your heads. That intake lines up HORRIBLY to tf heads out of the box. Good 302 intake

302Army187 · March 1st, 2011, 02:56 AM

Originally Posted by 93hatch

only do it if youre gona have it milled to fit your heads. That intake lines up HORRIBLY to tf heads out of the box. Good 302 intake

really? hrm.

I heard about them not lining up to AFR heads. thanks for the heads up. You know of a place that can do this? IDK anyone local that I would trust even for something this simple :/

93hatch · March 1st, 2011, 07:04 PM

measure it yourself and tell the machine shop how much to take off

302Army187 · March 1st, 2011, 09:12 PM

not sure how...

just lay it on the heads on the motor, and use a feeler gauge?

93hatch · March 1st, 2011, 09:45 PM

I dunno how lawl thats what my friend did

93hatch · March 1st, 2011, 10:08 PM

one more thing if the ports on the lower are opened up dont buy it. Once an intakes been fucked with to someone elses application or more than likely just some idiot opening shit up, youll never get it to line up. Mine was bigger than my heads and my intake port on my heads is a 1262 gasket, the victor would never have lined up with my heads so i ditched it

302Army187 · March 2nd, 2011, 08:36 AM

well when I eye balled it, it just looked polished/cleaned up, not all hogged out. so I think I will be fine.

69fastback · March 2nd, 2011, 08:45 AM

Any nimrod at a machine shop should be able to true the surface up for you.

302Army187 · March 2nd, 2011, 05:25 PM

Originally Posted by 69fastback

Any nimrod at a machine shop should be able to true the surface up for you.

haha, I hope so. the people around here are retarded.

i got one reliable guy I trust, but I think he only works on cylinder heads. I'll call him up first, because I trust his work, and he has a quick turn around.

February 28th, 2011, 03:30 AM	#1
302Army187 Hardcore Enthusiast '89 LX 'Vert 10's or bust... Literally. Join Date: May 2009 Location: Denver, Co Posts: 2,915 iTrader: 0 reviews	question about "big" intakes... So I might be changin' a few things up. don't want to say to much, as the "deal" im getting might fall through. But part of it is a edelbrock Victor 5.0 intake upper/lower. I think the lower has been ported a bit. I was told it was opened up, and it looked it, but no recipts or proof of said job. I have a typhoon right now. I had been planning on keeping it, as I paid to have the lower ported out pretty good a while ago, and I ported the upper a bit myself. Just opening up the throttle body mounting area, and then cleaned out all the extra crap in the intake runners. Peak power will be 5,700-6,300 ish, so nothing wild.... still a 302 also. So is the edelbrock victor going to be over kill? even with the porting of the typhoon, im sure the victor will have a big jump in power over 5,000 rpm. probably even sooner, like 4,500. but as far as anything lower then that, am I going to lose a ton of power from 4,500 and under? I know on good set ups losing low down poewr is a joke. but with my off the shelf BS cam, I am a little worried, but that might be going away soon too..... Just want your guys thoughts. I will probably go ahead with the deal ether way, but just got my mind buzzing about the change. Rob __________________ H/C/I 302 + nitrous for now... supercharger/turbo soon? www.youtube.com/Xarmy187 Please support my YouTube channel! My videos don't disappoint! Last edited by 302Army187; February 28th, 2011 at 08:10 AM.

February 28th, 2011, 10:54 AM	#2
StangBanger302 Hardcore Enthusiast 1992 Mustang LX 13.0 @ 105 Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: New York Posts: 2,230 iTrader: 0 reviews	Ditch that typhoon and grab the fuckin victor. All day. 1slo5.0 used a victor 5.0 with almost the same setup as you. Except he had the stage 1 cam, not the stage 2. __________________ As I lay rubber down the street I pray for traction I can keep But if I spin, and begin to slide Please dear God, protect my ride

February 28th, 2011, 05:03 PM	#4
302Army187 Hardcore Enthusiast '89 LX 'Vert 10's or bust... Literally. Join Date: May 2009 Location: Denver, Co Posts: 2,915 iTrader: 0 reviews	its not that I don't think it will work. its more so that im just thinking about the new set up a lot, haha. I know people run big intakes, or box intakes with great success, but the only builds I know of are normally with really good parts, like 93hatch's custom cam, ported heads, and a 347. which is in a whole other ball field compared to my set up. my set up for those that done know is: rebuilt explorer motor 302, mildly ported track heat twisted wedge o-ringed heads, and for now.....off the shelf stage 2 cam, a typhoon intake, ported a bit, like stated before. full bolt on's, electric fan, a/c and emissions delete, aluminum driveshaft, 4.10's blah blah blah. __________________ H/C/I 302 + nitrous for now... supercharger/turbo soon? www.youtube.com/Xarmy187 Please support my YouTube channel! My videos don't disappoint!

February 28th, 2011, 06:33 PM	#5
StangBanger302 Hardcore Enthusiast 1992 Mustang LX 13.0 @ 105 Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: New York Posts: 2,230 iTrader: 0 reviews	Fuckin do it. Don't pussy foot with that typhoon anymore. Dump it, and grab that victor for sure. It'll be good with your setup. __________________ As I lay rubber down the street I pray for traction I can keep But if I spin, and begin to slide Please dear God, protect my ride

February 28th, 2011, 06:58 PM	#6
302Army187 Hardcore Enthusiast '89 LX 'Vert 10's or bust... Literally. Join Date: May 2009 Location: Denver, Co Posts: 2,915 iTrader: 0 reviews	like I said, as long all the other parts look good, and not wore out, im defiantly getting everything. has two seasons of racing on the parts im buying, but the car ran a 10.8 as a best past, and consistent 11.2's at my elevation when dialed back a little to be consistent. I hope to replicate the same. (which would be mid/low 10's at sea level) I'll revel the parts come Saturday, if I end up buying them. __________________ H/C/I 302 + nitrous for now... supercharger/turbo soon? www.youtube.com/Xarmy187 Please support my YouTube channel! My videos don't disappoint!

February 28th, 2011, 03:51 PM	#3
jat Hardcore Enthusiast Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Maspeth , Queens, NYC Posts: 1,341 iTrader: 0 reviews	to big for what? what heads do you have? cam? etc. i am running a fully ported victor5.0 and 185cc heads with a high lift low duration cam on a stock shortblock.

February 28th, 2011, 07:15 PM	#7
StangBanger302 Hardcore Enthusiast 1992 Mustang LX 13.0 @ 105 Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: New York Posts: 2,230 iTrader: 0 reviews	Damn...Now I wanna know what they are. __________________ As I lay rubber down the street I pray for traction I can keep But if I spin, and begin to slide Please dear God, protect my ride

February 28th, 2011, 09:42 PM	#9
302Army187 Hardcore Enthusiast '89 LX 'Vert 10's or bust... Literally. Join Date: May 2009 Location: Denver, Co Posts: 2,915 iTrader: 0 reviews	loose lips sink ships! __________________ H/C/I 302 + nitrous for now... supercharger/turbo soon? www.youtube.com/Xarmy187 Please support my YouTube channel! My videos don't disappoint!

February 28th, 2011, 09:46 PM	#10
FastStang91Lx I Post Entirely Way Too Much 1991 Mustang LX 5.0 Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Minnesota Posts: 5,572 iTrader: 2 reviews	So do cannonballs __________________ Point made in less than a few hours with minimal response. http://www.moddedmustangs.com/forums...ml#post4465184

February 28th, 2011, 11:06 PM	#12
93hatch Banned 1992 Lx 11.39@119.24 Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Az Posts: 11,644 iTrader: 0 reviews	only do it if youre gona have it milled to fit your heads. That intake lines up HORRIBLY to tf heads out of the box. Good 302 intake __________________ [QUOTE=93mustank;2577445]We speed tested my right arm for quickness in shifts... So he could design the cam for proper shift recovery.[/QUOTE]

March 1st, 2011, 07:04 PM	#14
93hatch Banned 1992 Lx 11.39@119.24 Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Az Posts: 11,644 iTrader: 0 reviews	measure it yourself and tell the machine shop how much to take off __________________ [QUOTE=93mustank;2577445]We speed tested my right arm for quickness in shifts... So he could design the cam for proper shift recovery.[/QUOTE]

March 1st, 2011, 09:12 PM	#15
302Army187 Hardcore Enthusiast '89 LX 'Vert 10's or bust... Literally. Join Date: May 2009 Location: Denver, Co Posts: 2,915 iTrader: 0 reviews	not sure how... just lay it on the heads on the motor, and use a feeler gauge? __________________ H/C/I 302 + nitrous for now... supercharger/turbo soon? www.youtube.com/Xarmy187 Please support my YouTube channel! My videos don't disappoint!

March 1st, 2011, 09:45 PM	#16
93hatch Banned 1992 Lx 11.39@119.24 Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Az Posts: 11,644 iTrader: 0 reviews	I dunno how lawl thats what my friend did __________________ [QUOTE=93mustank;2577445]We speed tested my right arm for quickness in shifts... So he could design the cam for proper shift recovery.[/QUOTE]

March 1st, 2011, 10:08 PM	#17
93hatch Banned 1992 Lx 11.39@119.24 Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Az Posts: 11,644 iTrader: 0 reviews	one more thing if the ports on the lower are opened up dont buy it. Once an intakes been fucked with to someone elses application or more than likely just some idiot opening shit up, youll never get it to line up. Mine was bigger than my heads and my intake port on my heads is a 1262 gasket, the victor would never have lined up with my heads so i ditched it __________________ [QUOTE=93mustank;2577445]We speed tested my right arm for quickness in shifts... So he could design the cam for proper shift recovery.[/QUOTE]

March 2nd, 2011, 08:36 AM	#18
302Army187 Hardcore Enthusiast '89 LX 'Vert 10's or bust... Literally. Join Date: May 2009 Location: Denver, Co Posts: 2,915 iTrader: 0 reviews	well when I eye balled it, it just looked polished/cleaned up, not all hogged out. so I think I will be fine. __________________ H/C/I 302 + nitrous for now... supercharger/turbo soon? www.youtube.com/Xarmy187 Please support my YouTube channel! My videos don't disappoint!

March 2nd, 2011, 08:45 AM	#19
69fastback Premium Member 1969 Mustang Mach 1 6.824@101.61 Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Oklahoma jackass, get to driving Posts: 5,565 iTrader: 0 reviews	Any nimrod at a machine shop should be able to true the surface up for you. __________________ ./___ _ ____ ___ \. ( ]]] _ _ O _ _ [[[ ) \_ o _ _____ _ o _/ \|___\| ......... \|___\| http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HyYU3...e_gdata_player

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