TFS cam question!!!

ghostrider05 · March 20th, 2011, 06:08 PM

Hey guys, I just wanted to know whether I needed to upgrade the MAF/injectors if I went to the TFS stage 1 cam? I read somewhere else that it was recommended? Any experience or answers would be greatly appreciated!

ryanw · March 20th, 2011, 06:10 PM

What other mods to you have done ?

ghostrider05 · March 20th, 2011, 08:46 PM

none yet, but I have TFS 170 twisted wedges, Cobra upper/lower intake, x-pipe exhaust, and accufab 65mm TB. Wanted to change heads/cam/intake all together. Nothing different with the fuel system tho.

horsepowerjunkie · March 20th, 2011, 08:50 PM

You are probably going to need some 24Lbs injectors(minimum) with matching mass air and a 255lph fuel pump would also be advised along with an adjustable fuel pressure regulator.

ghostrider05 · March 20th, 2011, 09:03 PM

Well, I guess I won't be starting this next weekend after all! I didn't realize I would need to upgrade the fuel system right away also. I figured I'd at least be able to do the h/c/i and run it for a little while until I built the ole' budget back up!

horsepowerjunkie · March 20th, 2011, 09:06 PM

You should be able to buy all that stuff used for about $300.

ryanw · March 20th, 2011, 09:14 PM

Originally Posted by ghostrider05

Hey guys, I just wanted to know whether I needed to upgrade the MAF/injectors if I went to the TFS stage 1 cam? I read somewhere else that it was recommended? Any experience or answers would be greatly appreciated!

Originally Posted by ghostrider05

none yet, but I have TFS 170 twisted wedges, Cobra upper/lower intake, x-pipe exhaust, and accufab 65mm TB. Wanted to change heads/cam/intake all together. Nothing different with the fuel system tho.

Alright, thats awesome.

I think you should get a 70mm+ mass air meter or bigger calibrated to 24lb, 24lb injectors, Some say that you can reuse your old roller Lifters but i have read that new ones should be installed do to the fact that they develope a wear patteren to what ever cam it was used on. (so im not sure what you should do there.) But youll need to check pistion to valve clearance and all check push rod length. My point is to keep a little extra money for some unfore seen cost. I also think you should upgrade your fuel pump to a 255lph.

Sorry In my post i talked about roller rockers, i meant roller lifters so my post has been edited and fixed.

ghostrider05 · March 20th, 2011, 09:15 PM

ya, I just depleted my budget buying the cam/lifters. Its only gonna be a couple weeks, but I'll have the funding again soon. That itch is just getting real hard to scratch with those parts sittin' in the garage! on another note, what all will I need for the cam install? never done one before.

ryanw · March 20th, 2011, 09:21 PM

Originally Posted by ghostrider05

ya, I just depleted my budget buying the cam/lifters. Its only gonna be a couple weeks, but I'll have the funding again soon. That itch is just getting real hard to scratch with those parts sittin' in the garage! on another note, what all will I need for the cam install? never done one before.

Never done one before either....But i understand what your going through. I have a 331 stroker just sitting in my garage

horsepowerjunkie · March 20th, 2011, 11:48 PM

Originally Posted by ghostrider05

ya, I just depleted my budget buying the cam/lifters. Its only gonna be a couple weeks, but I'll have the funding again soon. That itch is just getting real hard to scratch with those parts sittin' in the garage! on another note, what all will I need for the cam install? never done one before.

You should be able to get a cam change gasket at any local parts store. I wouldn't even consider putting the old stock timing chain back on. I use this one on all my cam changes.
Ford Racing M-6268-A302 - Ford Racing Timing Chain Sets - Overview - SummitRacing.com

You may want to just get the gasket here also.
Summit Racing SUM-113002 - Summit Racing® Cam Change Gasket Sets - Overview - SummitRacing.com

79frankinstang · March 21st, 2011, 12:01 AM

One of my buddies used the stage 1 in his cobra and didn't have to upgrade anything and he made 270 hp and 300 ft/lb to the ground. He does have the gt 40 top end and 1.7 roller rockers but that's standard in 94 cobra. For the swap u will need just your upper and lower intake gaskets valve cover gaskets and timing chain gaskets. Its fairly simple to do if u have ever done anything on a motor. I just done my first swap and it was simple

93hatch · March 21st, 2011, 12:13 AM

sell that post cobra intake get a tfsr and tfs2

ryanw · March 21st, 2011, 12:25 AM

Originally Posted by 79frankinstang

One of my buddies used the stage 1 in his cobra and didn't have to upgrade anything and he made 270 hp and 300 ft/lb to the ground. He does have the gt 40 top end and 1.7 roller rockers but that's standard in 94 cobra. For the swap u will need just your upper and lower intake gaskets valve cover gaskets and timing chain gaskets. Its fairly simple to do if u have ever done anything on a motor. I just done my first swap and it was simple

your friend didnt have to upgrade that stuff cuz the cobra already comes with alot of that stuff already, such as a bigger mass air and 24lb injectors.

He can get away with not doing some of the stuff we have listed, but its recomended that he does to get the most out of his combo..just my 2 cents

302Army187 · March 21st, 2011, 05:06 AM

your goin to need a set of valve springs to match the cam, timing cover gasket set, and a new timing chain. also intake manifold gaskets and such. you should also buy new lifters, as the new cam will beat the crap out of them.

you SHOULD invest in a cam degree wheel and maybe an instruction video, but no one ever does that shit.

I started my car with 19lb injectors, and it ran fine. but I had 24lb injectors and a maf ready to go, just wanted to start up with 19lb injectors because I was parinoid there would be issues.

anyway, I got my injectors on eBay, rebuilt, for cheap. cant remember the price, but I think it was $65 plus shipping.

my maf is a 75mm Pro-m.

Blown284 · March 21st, 2011, 05:35 AM

Yea, I'd go with new lifters and springs definitely. Cams do create a wear pattern and IMO if you're gonna get that deep into the motor you might as well replace what ever you can while it's apart.

79frankinstang · March 21st, 2011, 08:51 AM

Yeah I was just commenting the power he could expect with that combo. I agree with everyone in here on replacing lifters timing set injectors upgrade maf. By doing so it will insure that there could be less stuff that goes wrong after u get back together

Timm10221 · March 21st, 2011, 12:12 PM

Originally Posted by 93hatch

sell that post cobra intake get a tfsr and tfs2

This is exactly what I did, I had the TFS51400004 heads and the TFS stage II cam with the cobra and did a 13.2 area at 104 then I swapped out the intake mani to the tfs race and gain 5 mph in the 1/4 and 13.1 time. This is through my tired ass aode with 180+K on it... Get the race intake braaa!

ghostrider05 · March 25th, 2011, 09:09 AM

Thanks everybody! All this info will be really helpful! Back to shopping I guess!

March 20th, 2011, 06:08 PM	#1
ghostrider05 Regular 1989 GT 'vert Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Navarre FL Posts: 164 iTrader: 0 reviews	TFS cam question!!! Hey guys, I just wanted to know whether I needed to upgrade the MAF/injectors if I went to the TFS stage 1 cam? I read somewhere else that it was recommended? Any experience or answers would be greatly appreciated!

March 20th, 2011, 06:10 PM	#2
ryanw I Post Entirely Way Too Much 1991 Ford Mustang GT Join Date: May 2007 Location: San Diego, California Posts: 6,059 iTrader: 0 reviews	What other mods to you have done ? __________________ DART 331ci stroker, AFR 185 heads, Trick Flow R intake, Accufab 70mm tb, 75mm pro m Maf, 30lb injectors, jba headers, 2 1/2" x pipe flowmaster super 10 mufflers, 255 fuel pump, 3:27 gears

March 20th, 2011, 08:50 PM	#4
horsepowerjunkie Hardcore Enthusiast 1989 Black LX---Turbo Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: just outside Minot, ND Posts: 1,153 iTrader: 0 reviews	You are probably going to need some 24Lbs injectors(minimum) with matching mass air and a 255lph fuel pump would also be advised along with an adjustable fuel pressure regulator. __________________ 89 LX Black, Boss 331, C4,T76BB, FAST EFI 82 Capri RS,89 5.0 HO,Comp XE266,TW 170,T5,etc. 73 Dart Sport 340, 410ci Bracket Brawler 72 Demon 340 4-speed 1 of 1667 01 Ram Quad Cab 03 Grizzley 660

March 20th, 2011, 09:06 PM	#6
horsepowerjunkie Hardcore Enthusiast 1989 Black LX---Turbo Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: just outside Minot, ND Posts: 1,153 iTrader: 0 reviews	You should be able to buy all that stuff used for about $300. __________________ 89 LX Black, Boss 331, C4,T76BB, FAST EFI 82 Capri RS,89 5.0 HO,Comp XE266,TW 170,T5,etc. 73 Dart Sport 340, 410ci Bracket Brawler 72 Demon 340 4-speed 1 of 1667 01 Ram Quad Cab 03 Grizzley 660

March 21st, 2011, 12:13 AM	#12
93hatch Banned 1992 Lx 11.39@119.24 Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Az Posts: 11,644 iTrader: 0 reviews	sell that post cobra intake get a tfsr and tfs2 __________________ [QUOTE=93mustank;2577445]We speed tested my right arm for quickness in shifts... So he could design the cam for proper shift recovery.[/QUOTE]

March 20th, 2011, 08:46 PM	#3
ghostrider05 Regular 1989 GT 'vert Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Navarre FL Posts: 164 iTrader: 0 reviews	none yet, but I have TFS 170 twisted wedges, Cobra upper/lower intake, x-pipe exhaust, and accufab 65mm TB. Wanted to change heads/cam/intake all together. Nothing different with the fuel system tho.

March 20th, 2011, 09:03 PM	#5
ghostrider05 Regular 1989 GT 'vert Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Navarre FL Posts: 164 iTrader: 0 reviews	Well, I guess I won't be starting this next weekend after all! I didn't realize I would need to upgrade the fuel system right away also. I figured I'd at least be able to do the h/c/i and run it for a little while until I built the ole' budget back up!

March 20th, 2011, 09:15 PM	#8
ghostrider05 Regular 1989 GT 'vert Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Navarre FL Posts: 164 iTrader: 0 reviews	ya, I just depleted my budget buying the cam/lifters. Its only gonna be a couple weeks, but I'll have the funding again soon. That itch is just getting real hard to scratch with those parts sittin' in the garage! on another note, what all will I need for the cam install? never done one before.

March 21st, 2011, 12:01 AM	#11
79frankinstang Regular 79 mustang LX Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Mena AR Posts: 65 iTrader: 0 reviews	One of my buddies used the stage 1 in his cobra and didn't have to upgrade anything and he made 270 hp and 300 ft/lb to the ground. He does have the gt 40 top end and 1.7 roller rockers but that's standard in 94 cobra. For the swap u will need just your upper and lower intake gaskets valve cover gaskets and timing chain gaskets. Its fairly simple to do if u have ever done anything on a motor. I just done my first swap and it was simple

March 21st, 2011, 05:06 AM	#14
302Army187 Hardcore Enthusiast '89 LX 'Vert 10's or bust... Literally. Join Date: May 2009 Location: Denver, Co Posts: 2,915 iTrader: 0 reviews	your goin to need a set of valve springs to match the cam, timing cover gasket set, and a new timing chain. also intake manifold gaskets and such. you should also buy new lifters, as the new cam will beat the crap out of them. you SHOULD invest in a cam degree wheel and maybe an instruction video, but no one ever does that shit. I started my car with 19lb injectors, and it ran fine. but I had 24lb injectors and a maf ready to go, just wanted to start up with 19lb injectors because I was parinoid there would be issues. anyway, I got my injectors on eBay, rebuilt, for cheap. cant remember the price, but I think it was $65 plus shipping. my maf is a 75mm Pro-m. __________________ H/C/I 302 + nitrous for now... supercharger/turbo soon? www.youtube.com/Xarmy187 Please support my YouTube channel! My videos don't disappoint!

March 21st, 2011, 05:35 AM	#15
Blown284 MM Fanatic 1966 Mustang Coupe Won't See The Track Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: The Devil's Porch Posts: 3,370 iTrader: 0 reviews	Yea, I'd go with new lifters and springs definitely. Cams do create a wear pattern and IMO if you're gonna get that deep into the motor you might as well replace what ever you can while it's apart. __________________ Previous Rides 1997 Blown Cobra-Sold & Missed 2004 Lightning-Traded 2001 Turbo GT-Traded 1966 Mustang Coupe-Sold 2006 Audi A3-sold 1998 Bagged Silverado- Sold 1997 BMW AC Schnitzer 540i S5

March 21st, 2011, 08:51 AM	#16
79frankinstang Regular 79 mustang LX Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Mena AR Posts: 65 iTrader: 0 reviews	Yeah I was just commenting the power he could expect with that combo. I agree with everyone in here on replacing lifters timing set injectors upgrade maf. By doing so it will insure that there could be less stuff that goes wrong after u get back together

March 25th, 2011, 09:09 AM	#18
ghostrider05 Regular 1989 GT 'vert Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Navarre FL Posts: 164 iTrader: 0 reviews	Thanks everybody! All this info will be really helpful! Back to shopping I guess!

Remove Advertisements Sponsored Links
Ford Mustang Forum Advertisement

Threads Similar to: TFS cam question!!!
Thread	Thread Starter	Forum	Replies	Last Post
quick question. fuel rail question on mark viii swap	Speedy1221	99-04	7	October 12th, 2011 11:02 PM
cam with nitrous question, frpp manifold intake question	slater	2005 - 2010	57	November 14th, 2010 05:40 PM
Exhaust question and tuner question.....dont laugh lol	Drick	99-04	19	September 24th, 2009 03:42 PM
Exhaust question + supercharger (warranty) question	r00st	2005 - 2010	2	January 31st, 2008 11:07 AM
Muffler question (visual aspect) + Emblem question	warrior86	Visual	5	November 20th, 2007 09:55 PM

All times are GMT -4. The time now is 11:33 PM.
Contact Us - Modded Mustangs : Ford Mustang Forums - Privacy Statement - Top
Modded Mustangs is ©2005-2008, All Rights Reserved, And is Not Affiliated with Ford Motor Company. Forum is powered by vBulletin ©2000 - 2012, Jelsoft Ent. Ltd. & SEO by vBSEO 3.3.2 ©2009, Crawlability, Inc.