Idiot of the year award goes to.......me!

ggreene · May 10th, 2011, 06:37 PM

Well after getting the 347 going it has a hell of a vibration. shaking the whole damn car. I bought the motor with the short block already put together, I put everything else together. When i bought it I had the receipt of the stroker kit, and all the parts they guy had bought, most of the stuff was there new in boxes. He had new balancer and new flywheel, 50oz. I looked at the recipt for the stroker kit from TMD and the part number ended in 50, so i took it for granted that it was balanced for 50oz.After I notice the vibration I called TMD and they said no that is just wheight for shipping purposes, and the kits are unbalanced. I called the guy I bought the motor from and asked him what it was balanced at, he had no idea what I was talking about. I got the name of the machine shope it was put together at but they are already closed for the day, so I guess tomorow I get to find out how bad I have fucked up. hopefully it is balanced at 50oz, or even 28 wouldn't be too bad, I could just change flywheel and damper. The kit was unbalanced, hopefully they knew this, and balanced it. If not, its coming all the way back apart.

MustangMatt96GT · May 10th, 2011, 06:57 PM

use it as a learning experience.... You'll get it taken care of... Hopefully you only ran it for a minute or two.

Also please don't cuss in the thread titles

phares_b · May 10th, 2011, 07:00 PM

Just curious why its ok to go full sailer in the thread but can't even say ass in the title.

ggreene · May 10th, 2011, 07:58 PM

Sorry about the foul launguage. I let it idle yesterday for about 15 min and reved to 3k for a few min while I played with the title. Never reved over 3k. hopefully it is fine. It will all work out, just a huge set back, maybe would be a good time to switch the f-cam.

fogged306 · May 10th, 2011, 08:20 PM

Originally Posted by ggreene

Well after getting the 347 going it has a hell of a vibration. shaking the whole damn car. I bought the motor with the short block already put together, I put everything else together. When i bought it I had the receipt of the stroker kit, and all the parts they guy had bought, most of the stuff was there new in boxes. He had new balancer and new flywheel, 50oz. I looked at the recipt for the stroker kit from TMD and the part number ended in 50, so i took it for granted that it was balanced for 50oz.After I notice the vibration I called TMD and they said no that is just wheight for shipping purposes, and the kits are unbalanced. I called the guy I bought the motor from and asked him what it was balanced at, he had no idea what I was talking about. I got the name of the machine shope it was put together at but they are already closed for the day, so I guess tomorow I get to find out how bad I have fucked up. hopefully it is balanced at 50oz, or even 28 wouldn't be too bad, I could just change flywheel and damper. The kit was unbalanced, hopefully they knew this, and balanced it. If not, its coming all the way back apart.

The kit itself is unbalanced, but the crank should be either an internal balance, or an external balance. Generally aftermarket kits are 28 oz external. Call them back and ask them what balance the crank itself is, not if the kit has been balanced together or not. It's a good idea to have the assembly balanced any way you look at it though (assuming it hasn't been already). Have you ever seen the crank? If so were there holes drilled in the bottoms of the counterweights?

flattusmaximus78 · May 10th, 2011, 08:43 PM

Def do not trow an fcam in there.

ggreene · May 10th, 2011, 08:56 PM

Originally Posted by fogged306

The kit itself is unbalanced, but the crank should be either an internal balance, or an external balance. Generally aftermarket kits are 28 oz external. Call them back and ask them what balance the crank itself is, not if the kit has been balanced together or not. It's a good idea to have the assembly balanced any way you look at it though (assuming it hasn't been already). Have you ever seen the crank? If so were there holes drilled in the bottoms of the counterweights?

well that is some good news. I did see the crank, I think it had shallow holes drilled into the bottom of the counter weights, but not possitive. I will call them back tomorow.

ggreene · May 10th, 2011, 08:58 PM

Originally Posted by flattusmaximus78

Def do not trow an fcam in there.

It cam with a new f-cam and I went ahead and put it in there. I was going to do a head and cam swap this winter, but if I end up having to take it back apart, then I am tossing out the f-cam and getting custom or anderson.

93hatch · May 10th, 2011, 10:33 PM

99% sure theres no such thing as a 50oz stroker

Ohsplat · May 11th, 2011, 02:08 AM

Originally Posted by phares_b

Just curious why its ok to go full sailer in the thread but can't even say ass in the title.

You really like to push it man.

phares_b · May 11th, 2011, 06:40 AM

Originally Posted by Ohsplat

You really like to push it man.

Yeah. I bring up all the controversial topics.

MustangMatt96GT · May 11th, 2011, 01:53 PM

The reason is because it's in the forum rules.... Need more of a reason?

ggreene · May 11th, 2011, 02:09 PM

I called TMD today. They are telling me that it is easier to balance at 28oz, but the kit has to be balanced no matter what. This kit was put together unbalaced, so are my only option to take this damn thing apart and have it all balanced?

phares_b · May 11th, 2011, 04:38 PM

Which rule? This?

4. We ask that you keep your language some what clean, exactly as we hope you would when addressing respected elders

69fastback · May 11th, 2011, 04:57 PM

Originally Posted by ggreene

I called TMD today. They are telling me that it is easier to balance at 28oz, but the kit has to be balanced no matter what. This kit was put together unbalaced, so are my only option to take this damn thing apart and have it all balanced?

Yeah that sucks man. Tearing it apart is about it. There are no kits made that are ready to bolt in.

Originally Posted by phares_b

Which rule? This?

4. We ask that you keep your language some what clean, exactly as we hope you would when addressing respected elders

There's a button in the top right corner that will solve all your problems/complaints.

phares_b · May 11th, 2011, 05:14 PM

Originally Posted by 69fastback

Yeah that sucks man. Tearing it apart is about it. There are no kits made that are ready to bolt in.

There's a button in the top right corner that will solve all your problems/complaints.

Donate?

FastStang91Lx · May 11th, 2011, 05:33 PM

Log out, smart ass

phares_b · May 11th, 2011, 06:20 PM

Originally Posted by 69fastback

Yeah that sucks man. Tearing it apart is about it. There are no kits made that are ready to bolt in.

There's a button in the top right corner that will solve all your problems/complaints.

Originally Posted by FastStang91Lx

Log out, smart ass

Thanks for clearing that up Einstein. I'm new and trying to figure this forum out. As far as I can tell most of the rules aren't enforced but one rule that is not really a rule is enforced. I'm not trying to be a smartass just trying to figure out what the rules actually are.

ggreene · May 11th, 2011, 06:22 PM

Yea, this really sucks. I was hoping I just had to swap balancer and flywheel.

FastStang91Lx · May 11th, 2011, 06:47 PM

Originally Posted by phares_b

Thanks for clearing that up Einstein. I'm new and trying to figure this forum out. As far as I can tell most of the rules aren't enforced but one rule that is not really a rule is enforced. I'm not trying to be a smartass just trying to figure out what the rules actually are.

If you are new, maybe you should watch your P's and Q's while you figure things out then. Respect is never given until it's earned. Remember that.

May 10th, 2011, 06:37 PM	#1
ggreene Regular Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 160 iTrader: 0 reviews	Idiot of the year award goes to.......me! Well after getting the 347 going it has a hell of a vibration. shaking the whole damn car. I bought the motor with the short block already put together, I put everything else together. When i bought it I had the receipt of the stroker kit, and all the parts they guy had bought, most of the stuff was there new in boxes. He had new balancer and new flywheel, 50oz. I looked at the recipt for the stroker kit from TMD and the part number ended in 50, so i took it for granted that it was balanced for 50oz.After I notice the vibration I called TMD and they said no that is just wheight for shipping purposes, and the kits are unbalanced. I called the guy I bought the motor from and asked him what it was balanced at, he had no idea what I was talking about. I got the name of the machine shope it was put together at but they are already closed for the day, so I guess tomorow I get to find out how bad I have fucked up. hopefully it is balanced at 50oz, or even 28 wouldn't be too bad, I could just change flywheel and damper. The kit was unbalanced, hopefully they knew this, and balanced it. If not, its coming all the way back apart. Last edited by MustangMatt96GT; May 10th, 2011 at 06:57 PM.

May 10th, 2011, 06:57 PM	#2
MustangMatt96GT Proud American 1996 Mustang GT Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Lakewood, CO Posts: 10,689 iTrader: 3 reviews	use it as a learning experience.... You'll get it taken care of... Hopefully you only ran it for a minute or two. Also please don't cuss in the thread titles __________________ RIP Travis Billings Special Thanks to: Andrews Racing Transmissions Baseline Suspensions 25.3 SFI Chassis Build Never Lift Racecars

May 10th, 2011, 07:00 PM	#3
phares_b Regular 87 GT Vert Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Raleigh Posts: 213 iTrader: 0 reviews	Just curious why its ok to go full sailer in the thread but can't even say ass in the title. __________________ I love all my fans.

May 10th, 2011, 08:43 PM	#6
flattusmaximus78 I Post Entirely Way Too Much 1993 5.ohhhh 12.97 @140mph Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Gatorland Posts: 6,122 iTrader: 3 reviews	Def do not trow an fcam in there. __________________ 02 Pewter z28, hoosiers/lid/exhaust/spray...125mph 1993 gt Sold, already missed --Moates Quarter horse $225-- --Cobra intake $150-- --tremec 3550 bell and shifter $1100--

May 10th, 2011, 10:33 PM	#9
93hatch Banned 1992 Lx 11.39@119.24 Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Az Posts: 11,644 iTrader: 0 reviews	99% sure theres no such thing as a 50oz stroker __________________ [QUOTE=93mustank;2577445]We speed tested my right arm for quickness in shifts... So he could design the cam for proper shift recovery.[/QUOTE]

May 10th, 2011, 07:58 PM	#4
ggreene Regular Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 160 iTrader: 0 reviews	Sorry about the foul launguage. I let it idle yesterday for about 15 min and reved to 3k for a few min while I played with the title. Never reved over 3k. hopefully it is fine. It will all work out, just a huge set back, maybe would be a good time to switch the f-cam.

May 11th, 2011, 01:53 PM	#12
MustangMatt96GT Proud American 1996 Mustang GT Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Lakewood, CO Posts: 10,689 iTrader: 3 reviews	The reason is because it's in the forum rules.... Need more of a reason? __________________ RIP Travis Billings Special Thanks to: Andrews Racing Transmissions Baseline Suspensions 25.3 SFI Chassis Build Never Lift Racecars

May 11th, 2011, 02:09 PM	#13
ggreene Regular Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 160 iTrader: 0 reviews	I called TMD today. They are telling me that it is easier to balance at 28oz, but the kit has to be balanced no matter what. This kit was put together unbalaced, so are my only option to take this damn thing apart and have it all balanced?

May 11th, 2011, 04:38 PM	#14
phares_b Regular 87 GT Vert Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Raleigh Posts: 213 iTrader: 0 reviews	Which rule? This? 4. We ask that you keep your language some what clean, exactly as we hope you would when addressing respected elders __________________ I love all my fans.

May 11th, 2011, 05:33 PM	#17
FastStang91Lx I Post Entirely Way Too Much 1991 Mustang LX 5.0 Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Minnesota Posts: 5,572 iTrader: 2 reviews	Log out, smart ass __________________ Point made in less than a few hours with minimal response. http://www.moddedmustangs.com/forums...ml#post4465184

May 11th, 2011, 06:22 PM	#19
ggreene Regular Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 160 iTrader: 0 reviews	Yea, this really sucks. I was hoping I just had to swap balancer and flywheel.

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