Kenne bell?n

fast5.0lx · May 24th, 2011, 09:32 AM

I just put on my bbk longtubed, and off road x pipe, so now im looking for a supercharger. I was looking at the kenne bell blowzilla unit's. Does any body here have any experience with these blowers?

MustangMabry · May 24th, 2011, 04:00 PM

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phares_b · May 24th, 2011, 04:11 PM

I have asked around quite a bit and the consensus that I have seen is that with pushrod 5.0 it's best to go with a centrifugal type supercharger especially if stroked. With a pure stock engine I think the KB would be a better choice personally because it provides instant boost/torque.

flattusmaximus78 · May 24th, 2011, 04:46 PM

With a kenne belle you would need a pretty well thought out heads cam intake and some cool conditions to get near or crack 400 hp. Most vortechs will put a stock car near 300 with a 5 speed and with a crappy hci near or above 430rwhp.

The Novice · May 24th, 2011, 06:10 PM

Yeah i would just go with a Vortech or another Centrifugal charger. Kenne Bell's are cool but with your already high gear and the fact that you already have an upper and lower intake ( you would have to chance intakes for the Kenne Bell to Mount ) I would just listen to these guys and try out another supercharger. Not to mention it could even save ya a little money, depending on what kit you go with.

fast5.0lx · May 24th, 2011, 06:54 PM

That's why I love this place. So just pick up some good heads, cam, and a vortech. I know everyone says switch to mass air, but I want to see how much I can get out of speed density. What vortech kit would be best for a stock bottom 5.0

FastStang91Lx · May 24th, 2011, 08:14 PM

One dude that I met that had a KB changed his gears from a 3.55 to a 3.08 because he said 'the blower likes to work harder'. That's all the info I have, so if his theory is true, it would blow goats with your gears. Other than that, on a stock setup, daily driver without much if at all drag time, it's a great blower. Predictable power.

ryanw · May 24th, 2011, 08:30 PM

This is more of a question then an answer. dont the Kenny bell superchargers only work with either the stock lower, or gt40 lower intake ? If so i wouldn't be interested in them just for that reason. Second, although Ive never used a roots style supercharger, I'm not a fan of them, there to big, Ive heard they get heat soaked quicker and cant spin as high as a centrifugal supercharger, unless i have my information wrong

fast5.0lx · May 24th, 2011, 08:42 PM

I've never had a supercharged car before, so I'm in the dark. All I know is I don't want to change my gears. I was checking out the vortech, kenne bell, and paxton blowers. So far I'm leaning towards the vortech.

fast5.0lx · May 24th, 2011, 08:45 PM

One more thing, my goal isn't for any certain power level. I want a daily driven 11 second car. I don't care if it's an 11.99.

phares_b · May 24th, 2011, 08:47 PM

Originally Posted by ryanw

This is more of a question then an answer. dont the Kenny bell superchargers only work with either the stock lower, or gt40 lower intake ? If so i wouldn't be interested in them just for that reason. Second, although Ive never used a roots style supercharger, I'm not a fan of them, there to big, Ive heard they get heat soaked quicker and cant spin as high as a centrifugal supercharger, unless i have my information wrong

I have heard the same thing. They are a beast down low but can't keep up with a high reving motor. At least not the 5.0 offering.

FastStang91Lx · May 24th, 2011, 08:48 PM

KB's only use the stock or gt40 lowers, Ryan is correct. If you had a properly ported gt40 lower, I would rock one on a DD. I wouldn't hope for huge numbers at the track though, unless it was an autocross track. The KB has it's plus's against the centrifugals, but also has it's minus's.

phares_b · May 24th, 2011, 08:49 PM

Originally Posted by fast5.0lx

I've never had a supercharged car before, so I'm in the dark. All I know is I don't want to change my gears. I was checking out the vortech, kenne bell, and paxton blowers. So far I'm leaning towards the vortech.

Pretty sure it would be undriveable with 4.10 gear (kb that is)s. I'm looking at a novi2000 for mine.

ryanw · May 24th, 2011, 08:51 PM

Originally Posted by phares_b

I'm looking at a novi2000 for mine.

thats what i would like as well paxton novi 2000....if not a vortech maybe a T-trim

FastStang91Lx · May 24th, 2011, 09:01 PM

Procharger D1, if you look at prochargers. That blower would support you probably for life.

flattusmaximus78 · May 24th, 2011, 09:29 PM

Speed density is fine with boost, but keep in mind it will not run with a cam in it. I think comp cams made a speed density specific cam, which one, i don't know. If you are interested in a doing heads if your on a budget get gt40 irons, new valvesprings, stock cam. Keep your intake. Your exhaust and gears are fine as is. With some suspension and some tire it should do 11's easy as shit.

Ever ran the car as is?

fast5.0lx · May 24th, 2011, 10:19 PM

I've never ran the car. Usually dont have time. And i'm not on a budget per say, I just cant spend more then 3k every 2 weeks. Unless I catch a real good stage job.

FastStang91Lx · May 24th, 2011, 10:35 PM

WTF 1500 a week you can spend on your car? Sell it and but a Ford GT

fast5.0lx · May 24th, 2011, 10:48 PM

Man I work my ass off. I usally work about 110 hours a week. I'm a wire line engineer in the oilfields. I get to play with explosives everyday. So my wife lets me spend my job bonus checks on parts.

kmedeiros88 · May 24th, 2011, 10:55 PM

Kenne bell blowers are cool. I would get that for the street. Get the flowzilla inlet though. All the centrifugals are awesome too but imo more for the track. Unless you go with an s trim, novi 1200, or p1sc

May 24th, 2011, 09:32 AM	#1
fast5.0lx Regular 1988 Mustang GT 31.35@55 Join Date: May 2006 Location: Lovington NM Posts: 120 iTrader: 0 reviews	Kenne bell?n I just put on my bbk longtubed, and off road x pipe, so now im looking for a supercharger. I was looking at the kenne bell blowzilla unit's. Does any body here have any experience with these blowers? __________________ 88 gt 5spd. twisted wedge 170's, tfs stage1 cam, fms 1.72rr, edey rpm air gap intake, holley 650 ultra dp, full msd ignition, BBK full length headers, off-road x-pipe, mac pro-dump exhaust, 4.10 gears, pro 5.0 short shifter

May 24th, 2011, 04:00 PM	#2
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May 24th, 2011, 04:11 PM	#3
phares_b Regular 87 GT Vert Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Raleigh Posts: 213 iTrader: 0 reviews	I have asked around quite a bit and the consensus that I have seen is that with pushrod 5.0 it's best to go with a centrifugal type supercharger especially if stroked. With a pure stock engine I think the KB would be a better choice personally because it provides instant boost/torque. __________________ I love all my fans.

May 24th, 2011, 04:46 PM	#4
flattusmaximus78 I Post Entirely Way Too Much 1993 5.ohhhh 12.97 @140mph Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Gatorland Posts: 6,122 iTrader: 3 reviews	With a kenne belle you would need a pretty well thought out heads cam intake and some cool conditions to get near or crack 400 hp. Most vortechs will put a stock car near 300 with a 5 speed and with a crappy hci near or above 430rwhp. __________________ 02 Pewter z28, hoosiers/lid/exhaust/spray...125mph 1993 gt Sold, already missed --Moates Quarter horse $225-- --Cobra intake $150-- --tremec 3550 bell and shifter $1100--

May 24th, 2011, 06:54 PM	#6
fast5.0lx Regular 1988 Mustang GT 31.35@55 Join Date: May 2006 Location: Lovington NM Posts: 120 iTrader: 0 reviews	That's why I love this place. So just pick up some good heads, cam, and a vortech. I know everyone says switch to mass air, but I want to see how much I can get out of speed density. What vortech kit would be best for a stock bottom 5.0 __________________ 88 gt 5spd. twisted wedge 170's, tfs stage1 cam, fms 1.72rr, edey rpm air gap intake, holley 650 ultra dp, full msd ignition, BBK full length headers, off-road x-pipe, mac pro-dump exhaust, 4.10 gears, pro 5.0 short shifter

May 24th, 2011, 06:10 PM	#5
The Novice Hardcore Enthusiast 87 Mustang GT T-top Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Grand Rapids, MI Posts: 1,149 iTrader: 0 reviews	Yeah i would just go with a Vortech or another Centrifugal charger. Kenne Bell's are cool but with your already high gear and the fact that you already have an upper and lower intake ( you would have to chance intakes for the Kenne Bell to Mount ) I would just listen to these guys and try out another supercharger. Not to mention it could even save ya a little money, depending on what kit you go with.

May 24th, 2011, 08:14 PM	#7
FastStang91Lx I Post Entirely Way Too Much 1991 Mustang LX 5.0 Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Minnesota Posts: 5,572 iTrader: 2 reviews	One dude that I met that had a KB changed his gears from a 3.55 to a 3.08 because he said 'the blower likes to work harder'. That's all the info I have, so if his theory is true, it would blow goats with your gears. Other than that, on a stock setup, daily driver without much if at all drag time, it's a great blower. Predictable power. __________________ Point made in less than a few hours with minimal response. http://www.moddedmustangs.com/forums...ml#post4465184

May 24th, 2011, 08:30 PM	#8
ryanw I Post Entirely Way Too Much 1991 Ford Mustang GT Join Date: May 2007 Location: San Diego, California Posts: 6,063 iTrader: 0 reviews	This is more of a question then an answer. dont the Kenny bell superchargers only work with either the stock lower, or gt40 lower intake ? If so i wouldn't be interested in them just for that reason. Second, although Ive never used a roots style supercharger, I'm not a fan of them, there to big, Ive heard they get heat soaked quicker and cant spin as high as a centrifugal supercharger, unless i have my information wrong __________________ DART 331ci stroker, AFR 185 heads, Trick Flow R intake, Accufab 70mm tb, 75mm pro m Maf, 30lb injectors, jba headers, 2 1/2" x pipe flowmaster super 10 mufflers, 255 fuel pump, 3:27 gears

May 24th, 2011, 08:42 PM	#9
fast5.0lx Regular 1988 Mustang GT 31.35@55 Join Date: May 2006 Location: Lovington NM Posts: 120 iTrader: 0 reviews	I've never had a supercharged car before, so I'm in the dark. All I know is I don't want to change my gears. I was checking out the vortech, kenne bell, and paxton blowers. So far I'm leaning towards the vortech. __________________ 88 gt 5spd. twisted wedge 170's, tfs stage1 cam, fms 1.72rr, edey rpm air gap intake, holley 650 ultra dp, full msd ignition, BBK full length headers, off-road x-pipe, mac pro-dump exhaust, 4.10 gears, pro 5.0 short shifter

May 24th, 2011, 08:45 PM	#10
fast5.0lx Regular 1988 Mustang GT 31.35@55 Join Date: May 2006 Location: Lovington NM Posts: 120 iTrader: 0 reviews	One more thing, my goal isn't for any certain power level. I want a daily driven 11 second car. I don't care if it's an 11.99. __________________ 88 gt 5spd. twisted wedge 170's, tfs stage1 cam, fms 1.72rr, edey rpm air gap intake, holley 650 ultra dp, full msd ignition, BBK full length headers, off-road x-pipe, mac pro-dump exhaust, 4.10 gears, pro 5.0 short shifter

May 24th, 2011, 08:48 PM	#12
FastStang91Lx I Post Entirely Way Too Much 1991 Mustang LX 5.0 Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Minnesota Posts: 5,572 iTrader: 2 reviews	KB's only use the stock or gt40 lowers, Ryan is correct. If you had a properly ported gt40 lower, I would rock one on a DD. I wouldn't hope for huge numbers at the track though, unless it was an autocross track. The KB has it's plus's against the centrifugals, but also has it's minus's. __________________ Point made in less than a few hours with minimal response. http://www.moddedmustangs.com/forums...ml#post4465184

May 24th, 2011, 09:01 PM	#15
FastStang91Lx I Post Entirely Way Too Much 1991 Mustang LX 5.0 Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Minnesota Posts: 5,572 iTrader: 2 reviews	Procharger D1, if you look at prochargers. That blower would support you probably for life. __________________ Point made in less than a few hours with minimal response. http://www.moddedmustangs.com/forums...ml#post4465184

May 24th, 2011, 09:29 PM	#16
flattusmaximus78 I Post Entirely Way Too Much 1993 5.ohhhh 12.97 @140mph Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Gatorland Posts: 6,122 iTrader: 3 reviews	Speed density is fine with boost, but keep in mind it will not run with a cam in it. I think comp cams made a speed density specific cam, which one, i don't know. If you are interested in a doing heads if your on a budget get gt40 irons, new valvesprings, stock cam. Keep your intake. Your exhaust and gears are fine as is. With some suspension and some tire it should do 11's easy as shit. Ever ran the car as is? __________________ 02 Pewter z28, hoosiers/lid/exhaust/spray...125mph 1993 gt Sold, already missed --Moates Quarter horse $225-- --Cobra intake $150-- --tremec 3550 bell and shifter $1100--

May 24th, 2011, 10:19 PM	#17
fast5.0lx Regular 1988 Mustang GT 31.35@55 Join Date: May 2006 Location: Lovington NM Posts: 120 iTrader: 0 reviews	I've never ran the car. Usually dont have time. And i'm not on a budget per say, I just cant spend more then 3k every 2 weeks. Unless I catch a real good stage job. __________________ 88 gt 5spd. twisted wedge 170's, tfs stage1 cam, fms 1.72rr, edey rpm air gap intake, holley 650 ultra dp, full msd ignition, BBK full length headers, off-road x-pipe, mac pro-dump exhaust, 4.10 gears, pro 5.0 short shifter

May 24th, 2011, 10:35 PM	#18
FastStang91Lx I Post Entirely Way Too Much 1991 Mustang LX 5.0 Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Minnesota Posts: 5,572 iTrader: 2 reviews	WTF 1500 a week you can spend on your car? Sell it and but a Ford GT __________________ Point made in less than a few hours with minimal response. http://www.moddedmustangs.com/forums...ml#post4465184

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May 24th, 2011, 10:48 PM	#19
fast5.0lx Regular 1988 Mustang GT 31.35@55 Join Date: May 2006 Location: Lovington NM Posts: 120 iTrader: 0 reviews	Man I work my ass off. I usally work about 110 hours a week. I'm a wire line engineer in the oilfields. I get to play with explosives everyday. So my wife lets me spend my job bonus checks on parts. __________________ 88 gt 5spd. twisted wedge 170's, tfs stage1 cam, fms 1.72rr, edey rpm air gap intake, holley 650 ultra dp, full msd ignition, BBK full length headers, off-road x-pipe, mac pro-dump exhaust, 4.10 gears, pro 5.0 short shifter

May 24th, 2011, 10:55 PM	#20
kmedeiros88 Regular 89 Mustang LX Hatch Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Fall River, MA Posts: 324 iTrader: 0 reviews	Kenne bell blowers are cool. I would get that for the street. Get the flowzilla inlet though. All the centrifugals are awesome too but imo more for the track. Unless you go with an s trim, novi 1200, or p1sc

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