turbo advice

phares_b · May 27th, 2011, 09:05 PM

Trying to learn about turbos to figure out if I want turbo or sc. I need to pass visual in NC so it seems on3 is not an option since it requires smog delete. What is the best option that would allow for emissions shit to be hooked up? Doesn't matter if the emissions shit is working just has to be boltedup.

nolife · May 27th, 2011, 09:34 PM

Originally Posted by phares_b

Trying to learn about turbos to figure out if I want turbo or sc. I need to pass visual in NC so it seems on3 is not an option since it requires smog delete. What is the best option that would allow for emissions shit to be hooked up? Doesn't matter if the emissions shit is working just has to be boltedup.

I can't speak for the On3 but you can do a Vortech SC and leave all of the smog stuff. Mine passes visual AND the two speed sniffer in VA and has for years at random shops with no favors.

phares_b · May 27th, 2011, 09:58 PM

Originally Posted by nolife

I can't speak for the On3 but you can do a Vortech SC and leave all of the smog stuff. Mine passes visual AND the two speed sniffer in VA and has for years at random shops with no favors.

I was told my engine was too deep breathing for a sc. Its a 363 dart, afr 205, comp xfi. For sc I was told I need either a novi 2000 or ysi. Trying to figure out what my turbo options are and what the comparative cost is.

FastStang91Lx · May 27th, 2011, 10:03 PM

You would need a healty blower, yes. There's also the Procharger D1 to consider too. Putting a small blower (P600 with the smallest pully they offer) on a 342, 3 inch intercooler, Track intake, 70mm TB, and Anderson blower cam resulted in this crappy peak at 5100. Something to show the reality of small blower on bigger cubes with intercooler ruducing boost because it has more area to compress the air in.

phares_b · May 27th, 2011, 10:12 PM

Originally Posted by FastStang91Lx

You would need a healty blower, yes. There's also the Procharger D1 to consider too. Putting a small blower (P600 with the smallest pully they offer) on a 342, 3 inch intercooler, Track intake, 70mm TB, and Anderson blower cam resulted in this crappy peak at 5100. Something to show the reality of small blower on bigger cubes with intercooler ruducing boost because it has more area to compress the air in.

My research says prochargers are not reliable. They leak. I want reliable proven tech. Would hellion or b&g work? What size turbo and kit would I need? The experience with turbo doesn't seem to be there with turbo like it is with the superchargers.

FastStang91Lx · May 27th, 2011, 10:14 PM

That's cuz turbo technology has come a long way with reliability and affordability as of late. Superchargers have been the staple until now. That's why so many people can answer sc questions but not turbo's.

flattusmaximus78 · May 28th, 2011, 11:53 AM

Originally Posted by FastStang91Lx

You would need a healty blower, yes. There's also the Procharger D1 to consider too. Putting a small blower (P600 with the smallest pully they offer) on a 342, 3 inch intercooler, Track intake, 70mm TB, and Anderson blower cam resulted in this crappy peak at 5100. Something to show the reality of small blower on bigger cubes with intercooler ruducing boost because it has more area to compress the air in.

Meh, d1 is a pretty healthy flowing blower. Should be good for 600 and up. Not much more. Unless was that dyno a p1 car?

FastStang91Lx · May 28th, 2011, 12:30 PM

That was the dyno from the P600. He's gotta sort his transmission issues and spend some coin on that before he goes D1. He's sticking with Procharger because of the Driver's side mount cuz all he'd have to change is the bracket that holds is on.

phares_b · May 28th, 2011, 12:55 PM

It looks like the hellion kit will accommodate the smog pump but its 4k for just the basic kit and id probably have to upgrade to a bigger turbo. The install would probably cost a shitload as well. Probably looking at about 3k more to do that instead of the novi.

93hatch · May 28th, 2011, 12:59 PM

I know at least 4 people here who have passed visual with no smog pump, idiots dont even know what a smog pump is

phares_b · May 28th, 2011, 04:54 PM

Originally Posted by 93hatch

I know at least 4 people here who have passed visual with no smog pump, idiots dont even know what a smog pump is

Pretty big gamble tho

BlueberryStang · August 11th, 2011, 07:47 PM

Okay sorta off yall's discussion, but my dad is looking into getting a 1984 Mercury Capri rs 2.3 turbo. I don't really have any knowledge on turbos, but I was wondering if the Garret 60 trim turbo off of that Capri would work on my 1990 mustang with the 302 5.0??

gripthenboost · August 13th, 2011, 02:06 AM

If your woried about passing smog dont even bother i pay $100 in ny to pass my 306 mustang with a 150 shot. So if your going to complain about emissions dont even bother.

May 27th, 2011, 09:05 PM	#1
phares_b Regular 87 GT Vert Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Raleigh Posts: 213 iTrader: 0 reviews	turbo advice Trying to learn about turbos to figure out if I want turbo or sc. I need to pass visual in NC so it seems on3 is not an option since it requires smog delete. What is the best option that would allow for emissions shit to be hooked up? Doesn't matter if the emissions shit is working just has to be boltedup. __________________ I love all my fans.

May 27th, 2011, 10:03 PM	#4
FastStang91Lx I Post Entirely Way Too Much 1991 Mustang LX 5.0 Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Minnesota Posts: 5,572 iTrader: 2 reviews	You would need a healty blower, yes. There's also the Procharger D1 to consider too. Putting a small blower (P600 with the smallest pully they offer) on a 342, 3 inch intercooler, Track intake, 70mm TB, and Anderson blower cam resulted in this crappy peak at 5100. Something to show the reality of small blower on bigger cubes with intercooler ruducing boost because it has more area to compress the air in. __________________ Point made in less than a few hours with minimal response. http://www.moddedmustangs.com/forums...ml#post4465184

May 27th, 2011, 10:14 PM	#6
FastStang91Lx I Post Entirely Way Too Much 1991 Mustang LX 5.0 Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Minnesota Posts: 5,572 iTrader: 2 reviews	That's cuz turbo technology has come a long way with reliability and affordability as of late. Superchargers have been the staple until now. That's why so many people can answer sc questions but not turbo's. __________________ Point made in less than a few hours with minimal response. http://www.moddedmustangs.com/forums...ml#post4465184

May 28th, 2011, 12:30 PM	#8
FastStang91Lx I Post Entirely Way Too Much 1991 Mustang LX 5.0 Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Minnesota Posts: 5,572 iTrader: 2 reviews	That was the dyno from the P600. He's gotta sort his transmission issues and spend some coin on that before he goes D1. He's sticking with Procharger because of the Driver's side mount cuz all he'd have to change is the bracket that holds is on. __________________ Point made in less than a few hours with minimal response. http://www.moddedmustangs.com/forums...ml#post4465184

May 28th, 2011, 12:55 PM	#9
phares_b Regular 87 GT Vert Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Raleigh Posts: 213 iTrader: 0 reviews	It looks like the hellion kit will accommodate the smog pump but its 4k for just the basic kit and id probably have to upgrade to a bigger turbo. The install would probably cost a shitload as well. Probably looking at about 3k more to do that instead of the novi. __________________ I love all my fans.

May 28th, 2011, 12:59 PM	#10
93hatch Banned 1992 Lx 11.39@119.24 Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Az Posts: 11,644 iTrader: 0 reviews	I know at least 4 people here who have passed visual with no smog pump, idiots dont even know what a smog pump is __________________ [QUOTE=93mustank;2577445]We speed tested my right arm for quickness in shifts... So he could design the cam for proper shift recovery.[/QUOTE]

August 11th, 2011, 07:47 PM	#12
BlueberryStang Regular 1990 Mustang GT Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 54 iTrader: 0 reviews	Okay sorta off yall's discussion, but my dad is looking into getting a 1984 Mercury Capri rs 2.3 turbo. I don't really have any knowledge on turbos, but I was wondering if the Garret 60 trim turbo off of that Capri would work on my 1990 mustang with the 302 5.0?? __________________ 1990 GT hatchback - BBK cold air intake, shorty stainless headers, FRPP 4.10 gears, MSD ignition, underdrive pulleys, 2.5 inch exhaust with o/r h-pipe into Flowmaster super 10series. Last edited by BlueberryStang; August 13th, 2011 at 06:59 PM.

August 13th, 2011, 02:06 AM	#13
gripthenboost Hardcore Enthusiast 91 Mustang GT 1991 sliver GT Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: New York Posts: 1,213 iTrader: 0 reviews	If your woried about passing smog dont even bother i pay $100 in ny to pass my 306 mustang with a 150 shot. So if your going to complain about emissions dont even bother. __________________

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