Just gotta know....

LSX Freak · May 29th, 2011, 10:23 PM

What is it about the TF stuff that it's all people on here recommend? I mean hell anything is an improvement over stock. I'll see people on here with a set of aftermarket heads and asking about a build and the first thing people do is suggest selling them and buying TF even if it's out of budget. Just a completely random question and don't mean to start any shit here. I'm not biased towards any brands TBH. Just curious as to why it's all people recommend.

ryanw · May 29th, 2011, 10:31 PM

because they have been proven to work.....

Some people say there on a budget and want gt40 heads and then say they want to have them ported and polish, with that same money they could have purchased TF heads, makes no sense saying your on a budget but your willing to dump a shit load of money into stock heads.

not to mention every ones HP wants grow over time, why spend money twice, just save a little more and buy the better shit the first time...and save your self from disapointing results

LSX Freak · May 29th, 2011, 10:37 PM

Originally Posted by ryanw

because they have been proven to work.....

Some people say there on a budget and want gt40 heads and then say they want to have them ported and polish, with that same money they could have purchased TF heads, makes no sense saying your on a budget but your willing to dump a shit load of money into stock heads.

not to mention every ones HP wants grow over time, why spend money twice, just save a little more and buy the better shit the first time...and save your self from disapointing results

I'm not arguing the point they've proven a good name for themselves.

And porting the GT40 heads and such is definitely understandable, but any set of aftermarket heads would be cost effective over porting and polishing some GT40 or P heads.

I bought a running 302 with some Edelbrock Performer RPM heads for $600. Hell I can sell the rest of the engine and have ~$250 in a good set of heads. But the first thing someone will do is suggest selling them. I guess I just don't get it.

ryanw · May 29th, 2011, 10:43 PM

I dont think that TF is the only good head out there, I have AFR and those are known to be good, i've heard good things about certain model of edelbrock heads and there are many more out there but trick flow is plentiful and Ive heard the most about them and AFR so that tends to be the ones i recommend

LSX Freak · May 29th, 2011, 10:53 PM

Understandable. I'm just simple minded I guess. To me anything is an upgrade over stock.

ryanw · May 29th, 2011, 11:05 PM

i do agree with that....but some of the cheaper after market heads have quality issues and ends up costing you the same as a higher quality head by the time you fix the issues with them.......

Now if all some one is looking to do is make a slight improvement over stock and there content with that, then yes any head will do, gt40, gt40p, world products, ect.... the list goes on, but unfortunately, every one wants more, and then they want to know what there car cant keep up with the big boys, well because i thought they were happy with there slightly improved aftermarket head, now they either stay there , or rip those heads off that they just bought last year and now have to do it all over again

kmedeiros88 · May 29th, 2011, 11:36 PM

Plenty of good aftermarket heads put there. There are some crappy ones too though as mentioned. I don't know about you bit I wouldn't put a set of Patriot heads on my car unless they've been reworked which is a waste of money anyway compared to better name heads.

ryanw · May 29th, 2011, 11:41 PM

agreed, procomps are the same way, they would need to be reworked, from what ive heard. After that cost you might as well just have bought the better heads in the first place....this hobby isn't cheap

93hatch · May 29th, 2011, 11:49 PM

inline heads on a stock bore=junk

LSX Freak · May 29th, 2011, 11:50 PM

Yeah, that's just the typical nature of a man lol. Even if you do things right the first time it's still not enough.

But I am not hard to please, so my Edelbrock heads will suit me fine over my E7's. Swap those on and an on3 kit (those are the plans for now) and shoot for 450 HP with 11's and I'll be a happy camper. Until the time comes for the epic LS swap!

93hatch · May 30th, 2011, 12:09 AM

why so fail

ryanw · May 30th, 2011, 12:13 AM

YouTube - ‪Saturday Night Live - Dick In A Box‬&rlm;

cleangtvert · May 30th, 2011, 09:25 AM

^^^^^

skeletonpsycho · May 30th, 2011, 09:38 AM

the problem is everyone wants 400 hp for $1000 people need to understand that this is an expensive hobby so a lot of patience goes a long way

fogged306 · May 30th, 2011, 10:22 AM

It's the rotated intake valve angle of the trickflow that makes me suggest it over most other heads on a stock bore engine. Inline valve heads with a 2.02 intake valve end up close to the edge of the cylinder wall on a stock bore and shroud the valve some. A wedge head rotates the valve inward and angles it so that it's unshrouded by the bore.

kmedeiros88 · May 30th, 2011, 10:27 AM

Def an expensive hobby. Especially because you can't upgrade one thing without upgrading everything else, unless you want your car to run like ass.

FastStang91Lx · May 30th, 2011, 10:48 PM

Originally Posted by fogged306

It's the rotated intake valve angle of the trickflow that makes me suggest it over most other heads on a stock bore engine. Inline valve heads with a 2.02 intake valve end up close to the edge of the cylinder wall on a stock bore and shroud the valve some. A wedge head rotates the valve inward and angles it so that it's unshrouded by the bore.

That's exactly why^^^ Not to mention the versatility of sending the base (170) heads to a few different places to end up with a larger head. I haven't researched all other heads, but cnc porting vs. hand porting heads larger wins for me.... big time! I'm a believer in consistancy, and I wouldn't be able to afford a BIG NAME porter to do them by hand for the same or better results for the money spent.

93hatch · May 30th, 2011, 10:50 PM

renegade program waatttt

FastStang91Lx · May 30th, 2011, 10:57 PM

Exactly!

69fastback · May 30th, 2011, 11:02 PM

Trick flow sucks

May 29th, 2011, 10:23 PM	#1
LSX Freak Enthusiast Canary yellow 1990 GT Praying for 11's after winter mods Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Moberly, Missouri Posts: 539 iTrader: 0 reviews	Just gotta know.... What is it about the TF stuff that it's all people on here recommend? I mean hell anything is an improvement over stock. I'll see people on here with a set of aftermarket heads and asking about a build and the first thing people do is suggest selling them and buying TF even if it's out of budget. Just a completely random question and don't mean to start any shit here. I'm not biased towards any brands TBH. Just curious as to why it's all people recommend. __________________ -Edelbrock Performer Intake/Heads -TFS2 Cam -Tremec 3550 -All them other bolt on performance thingys

May 29th, 2011, 10:31 PM	#2
ryanw I Post Entirely Way Too Much 1991 Ford Mustang GT Join Date: May 2007 Location: San Diego, California Posts: 6,063 iTrader: 0 reviews	because they have been proven to work..... Some people say there on a budget and want gt40 heads and then say they want to have them ported and polish, with that same money they could have purchased TF heads, makes no sense saying your on a budget but your willing to dump a shit load of money into stock heads. not to mention every ones HP wants grow over time, why spend money twice, just save a little more and buy the better shit the first time...and save your self from disapointing results __________________ DART 331ci stroker, AFR 185 heads, Trick Flow R intake, Accufab 70mm tb, 75mm pro m Maf, 30lb injectors, jba headers, 2 1/2" x pipe flowmaster super 10 mufflers, 255 fuel pump, 3:27 gears

May 29th, 2011, 10:43 PM	#4
ryanw I Post Entirely Way Too Much 1991 Ford Mustang GT Join Date: May 2007 Location: San Diego, California Posts: 6,063 iTrader: 0 reviews	I dont think that TF is the only good head out there, I have AFR and those are known to be good, i've heard good things about certain model of edelbrock heads and there are many more out there but trick flow is plentiful and Ive heard the most about them and AFR so that tends to be the ones i recommend __________________ DART 331ci stroker, AFR 185 heads, Trick Flow R intake, Accufab 70mm tb, 75mm pro m Maf, 30lb injectors, jba headers, 2 1/2" x pipe flowmaster super 10 mufflers, 255 fuel pump, 3:27 gears

May 29th, 2011, 10:53 PM	#5
LSX Freak Enthusiast Canary yellow 1990 GT Praying for 11's after winter mods Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Moberly, Missouri Posts: 539 iTrader: 0 reviews	Understandable. I'm just simple minded I guess. To me anything is an upgrade over stock. __________________ -Edelbrock Performer Intake/Heads -TFS2 Cam -Tremec 3550 -All them other bolt on performance thingys

May 29th, 2011, 11:05 PM	#6
ryanw I Post Entirely Way Too Much 1991 Ford Mustang GT Join Date: May 2007 Location: San Diego, California Posts: 6,063 iTrader: 0 reviews	i do agree with that....but some of the cheaper after market heads have quality issues and ends up costing you the same as a higher quality head by the time you fix the issues with them....... Now if all some one is looking to do is make a slight improvement over stock and there content with that, then yes any head will do, gt40, gt40p, world products, ect.... the list goes on, but unfortunately, every one wants more, and then they want to know what there car cant keep up with the big boys, well because i thought they were happy with there slightly improved aftermarket head, now they either stay there , or rip those heads off that they just bought last year and now have to do it all over again __________________ DART 331ci stroker, AFR 185 heads, Trick Flow R intake, Accufab 70mm tb, 75mm pro m Maf, 30lb injectors, jba headers, 2 1/2" x pipe flowmaster super 10 mufflers, 255 fuel pump, 3:27 gears

May 29th, 2011, 11:36 PM	#7
kmedeiros88 Regular 89 Mustang LX Hatch Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Fall River, MA Posts: 324 iTrader: 0 reviews	Plenty of good aftermarket heads put there. There are some crappy ones too though as mentioned. I don't know about you bit I wouldn't put a set of Patriot heads on my car unless they've been reworked which is a waste of money anyway compared to better name heads.

May 29th, 2011, 11:41 PM	#8
ryanw I Post Entirely Way Too Much 1991 Ford Mustang GT Join Date: May 2007 Location: San Diego, California Posts: 6,063 iTrader: 0 reviews	agreed, procomps are the same way, they would need to be reworked, from what ive heard. After that cost you might as well just have bought the better heads in the first place....this hobby isn't cheap __________________ DART 331ci stroker, AFR 185 heads, Trick Flow R intake, Accufab 70mm tb, 75mm pro m Maf, 30lb injectors, jba headers, 2 1/2" x pipe flowmaster super 10 mufflers, 255 fuel pump, 3:27 gears

May 29th, 2011, 11:49 PM	#9
93hatch Banned 1992 Lx 11.39@119.24 Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Az Posts: 11,644 iTrader: 0 reviews	inline heads on a stock bore=junk __________________ [QUOTE=93mustank;2577445]We speed tested my right arm for quickness in shifts... So he could design the cam for proper shift recovery.[/QUOTE]

May 29th, 2011, 11:50 PM	#10
LSX Freak Enthusiast Canary yellow 1990 GT Praying for 11's after winter mods Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Moberly, Missouri Posts: 539 iTrader: 0 reviews	Yeah, that's just the typical nature of a man lol. Even if you do things right the first time it's still not enough. But I am not hard to please, so my Edelbrock heads will suit me fine over my E7's. Swap those on and an on3 kit (those are the plans for now) and shoot for 450 HP with 11's and I'll be a happy camper. Until the time comes for the epic LS swap! __________________ -Edelbrock Performer Intake/Heads -TFS2 Cam -Tremec 3550 -All them other bolt on performance thingys

May 30th, 2011, 12:09 AM	#11
93hatch Banned 1992 Lx 11.39@119.24 Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Az Posts: 11,644 iTrader: 0 reviews	why so fail __________________ [QUOTE=93mustank;2577445]We speed tested my right arm for quickness in shifts... So he could design the cam for proper shift recovery.[/QUOTE]

May 30th, 2011, 12:13 AM	#12
ryanw I Post Entirely Way Too Much 1991 Ford Mustang GT Join Date: May 2007 Location: San Diego, California Posts: 6,063 iTrader: 0 reviews	YouTube - ‪Saturday Night Live - Dick In A Box‬&rlm; __________________ DART 331ci stroker, AFR 185 heads, Trick Flow R intake, Accufab 70mm tb, 75mm pro m Maf, 30lb injectors, jba headers, 2 1/2" x pipe flowmaster super 10 mufflers, 255 fuel pump, 3:27 gears

May 30th, 2011, 09:25 AM	#13
cleangtvert Enthusiast 1991 gt vert Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: st louis Posts: 727 iTrader: 0 reviews	^^^^^

May 30th, 2011, 09:38 AM	#14
skeletonpsycho Regular 1987 mustang GT 10.92@122 Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: ephrata pa Posts: 158 iTrader: 0 reviews	the problem is everyone wants 400 hp for $1000 people need to understand that this is an expensive hobby so a lot of patience goes a long way __________________ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gQ7g9ystpiU 347 all motor wawa pump gas driven everywhere

May 30th, 2011, 10:22 AM	#15
fogged306 MM Fanatic 89 GT Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: NY Posts: 4,875 iTrader: 2 reviews	It's the rotated intake valve angle of the trickflow that makes me suggest it over most other heads on a stock bore engine. Inline valve heads with a 2.02 intake valve end up close to the edge of the cylinder wall on a stock bore and shroud the valve some. A wedge head rotates the valve inward and angles it so that it's unshrouded by the bore.

May 30th, 2011, 10:27 AM	#16
kmedeiros88 Regular 89 Mustang LX Hatch Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Fall River, MA Posts: 324 iTrader: 0 reviews	Def an expensive hobby. Especially because you can't upgrade one thing without upgrading everything else, unless you want your car to run like ass.

May 30th, 2011, 11:02 PM	#20
69fastback Premium Member 1969 Mustang Mach 1 6.824@101.61 Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Oklahoma jackass, get to driving Posts: 5,565 iTrader: 0 reviews	Trick flow sucks __________________ ./___ _ ____ ___ \. ( ]]] _ _ O _ _ [[[ ) \_ o _ _____ _ o _/ \|___\| ......... \|___\| http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HyYU3...e_gdata_player

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May 30th, 2011, 10:50 PM	#18
93hatch Banned 1992 Lx 11.39@119.24 Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Az Posts: 11,644 iTrader: 0 reviews	renegade program waatttt __________________ [QUOTE=93mustank;2577445]We speed tested my right arm for quickness in shifts... So he could design the cam for proper shift recovery.[/QUOTE]

May 30th, 2011, 10:57 PM	#19
FastStang91Lx I Post Entirely Way Too Much 1991 Mustang LX 5.0 Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Minnesota Posts: 5,572 iTrader: 2 reviews	Exactly! __________________ Point made in less than a few hours with minimal response. http://www.moddedmustangs.com/forums...ml#post4465184

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