DSS 331 Stroker HP

ADavis40 · August 27th, 2011, 08:56 PM

Hello everyone I was needing your input on how much horsepower you think this setup would have on this engine. The engine is a pro billet 331 stroker from Dss racing, the engine has comp cams and the lift is .565/.574 232/240 the block also has 205 cc AFR heads, 1450 CAMSHAFT, push rods: 4130 .80", CAMSHAFT: Ford racing, TIMING CHAIN: Pro gear 3 position double roller 430HDSTK LIFTERS, PUSHRODS: 4130 .80, Dss Aluminum Roller Rockers. Also the engine was balanced and blue printed. If you need any more information just let me know, and I will try my best to answer them.

Thanks for all replies

horsepowerjunkie · August 27th, 2011, 10:00 PM

I'd say 475+ flywheel isn't out of the question.

ADavis40 · August 27th, 2011, 10:44 PM

We was wandering could we get 400 hp to the rear wheel?

furreal302 · August 27th, 2011, 11:13 PM

can i have your engine?

ADavis40 · August 27th, 2011, 11:17 PM

Heck no lol.

nolife · August 27th, 2011, 11:29 PM

What rpm are you taking it and what compression? Assuming 9.0 and 6250...
A 331 with AFR 205's, 330-370 RWHP.

Take it higher and more power.

ADavis40 · August 28th, 2011, 11:30 AM

To make max power it redlines at 65000 rpms.

69fastback · August 28th, 2011, 12:41 PM

Take the cubes and go for the 347. And what is a 1450 camshaft?

ADavis40 · August 28th, 2011, 01:01 PM

I will be honest man, this is my unlces engine he has had it for alittle while now and I was just putting down the information from the paper from dss, he was just wandering how much hp he should be looking at to the ground.

StangBanger302 · August 29th, 2011, 02:28 PM

To the ground? Ask what compression he is at and we'll assume you're spinning it to 7,000...probably 380 to the tire.

ADavis40 · August 29th, 2011, 06:07 PM

Intake: Holley System Max
Compression: 10:9:1
Exahust: Flow master super 44's 2 1/2 inch
Camshaft: Comp cams .565/.574

Also the engine has the following. Bbk shorty headers, 70 mm Throttle body, 24 ft/lb injectors, 4:30 gears, Adjustable fuel pressure regulator, 208/160 valves and a zex nitorous kit that is 75-125 dry shot that is not hooked up yet. Also on the injectors do you think that we should get a bigger set of injectors, or just leave them the same? He is hoping to get 400 hp to the ground on motor do you all think it is possible with this current setup? Also if you all have any more questions be sure to ask.

horsepowerjunkie · August 29th, 2011, 08:29 PM

Originally Posted by ADavis40

Intake: Holley System Max
Compression: 10:9:1
Exahust: Flow master super 44's 2 1/2 inch
Camshaft: Comp cams .565/.574

Also the engine has the following. Bbk shorty headers, 70 mm Throttle body, 24 ft/lb injectors, 4:30 gears, Adjustable fuel pressure regulator, 208/160 valves and a zex nitorous kit that is 75-125 dry shot that is not hooked up yet. Also on the injectors do you think that we should get a bigger set of injectors, or just leave them the same? He is hoping to get 400 hp to the ground on motor do you all think it is possible with this current setup? Also if you all have any more questions be sure to ask.

IMO, the BBK shorties, 70mm TB, & 24 lbs injectors are going to all be too small for this set up. 1 3/4" long tubes, 75-80mm TB, & 30-36 lbs injectors would be a much better set up. Why have those high flowing heads and choke them off with small 1 5/8" headers & 70mm TB?

ADavis40 · August 29th, 2011, 08:57 PM

He just got married has not had enough money lol.

1SICK5.0VERT · September 3rd, 2011, 03:26 AM

Originally Posted by nolife

what rpm are you taking it and what compression? Assuming 9.0 and 6250...
A 331 with afr 205's, 330-370 rwhp.

Take it higher and more power.

+1 totally agree with those numbers

1SICK5.0VERT · September 3rd, 2011, 03:35 AM

Originally Posted by adavis40

intake: Holley system max
compression: 10:9:1
exahust: Flow master super 44's 2 1/2 inch
camshaft: Comp cams .565/.574

also the engine has the following. Bbk shorty headers, 70 mm throttle body, 24 ft/lb injectors, 4:30 gears, adjustable fuel pressure regulator, 208/160 valves and a zex nitorous kit that is 75-125 dry shot that is not hooked up yet. Also on the injectors do you think that we should get a bigger set of injectors, or just leave them the same? He is hoping to get 400 hp to the ground on motor do you all think it is possible with this current setup? Also if you all have any more questions be sure to ask.

id get rid of the shorties and run a set of longtubes. Shorties dont do much for hp anyway. As for the injectors id run nothing smaller then 30 ft/lb injectors because youll be needing them. With the 24's youll have to crank your fuel pressure regulator all the way up and you will probably run out of fuel by 350rwhp if that.

ADavis40 · September 5th, 2011, 08:37 PM

He can not have long tube headers, because of the lakewood bell housing it will not clear it. He is wanting to have 400 hp to the rear wheels just on motor, he said that he would try to get some bigger injectors he is thinking about 36 ft/lb is that too much or just about right? Also what brand would you be looking at for the injectors and would you recommoned getting a bigger throttle body? If so what size would you be running? Thanks for the help.

Bubba95SN · September 5th, 2011, 09:20 PM

Use Comp Cam Desktop Dyno.

BassMaster5000 · September 6th, 2011, 01:23 AM

I've got 342/364 to the wheels out of my most recent dyno tune, with a similar 331 stroker set up.. Like everyone else has said, run a bigger throttle body and some longtubes.. there are longtubes that fit around the lakewood bell housing. Kooks for instance are high in price, but some of the best headers you can buy, and will fit your application.

ADavis40 · September 6th, 2011, 04:15 PM

Is there any other brands that you know of that has long tube headers that would work on the lakewood bell housing? Also would it be alright to run a 75 mm throttle body or should he go with a 80 mm throttle body? Also what would be better on the injectors, 30 ft/lb or 36 ft/lb and what brand would you all recommoned? I think he is wanting to run the zex nitrous kit so I figured that I would say the 36 ft/lb injectors with the 80 mm tb should be good enough? Also if he changes injectors, throttle body, and long tube headers how close would he be to 400 rwhp or could he even reach this on motor? Thanks for all the help.

69fastback · September 6th, 2011, 05:58 PM

Originally Posted by Bubba95SN

Use Comp Cam Desktop Dyno.

Lol...for what?

August 27th, 2011, 08:56 PM	#1
ADavis40 Newbie 1989 Mustang gt Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Kentucky Posts: 28 iTrader: 0 reviews	DSS 331 Stroker HP Hello everyone I was needing your input on how much horsepower you think this setup would have on this engine. The engine is a pro billet 331 stroker from Dss racing, the engine has comp cams and the lift is .565/.574 232/240 the block also has 205 cc AFR heads, 1450 CAMSHAFT, push rods: 4130 .80", CAMSHAFT: Ford racing, TIMING CHAIN: Pro gear 3 position double roller 430HDSTK LIFTERS, PUSHRODS: 4130 .80, Dss Aluminum Roller Rockers. Also the engine was balanced and blue printed. If you need any more information just let me know, and I will try my best to answer them. Thanks for all replies

August 27th, 2011, 10:00 PM	#2
horsepowerjunkie Hardcore Enthusiast 1989 Black LX---Turbo Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: just outside Minot, ND Posts: 1,153 iTrader: 0 reviews	I'd say 475+ flywheel isn't out of the question. __________________ 89 LX Black, Boss 331, C4,T76BB, FAST EFI 82 Capri RS,89 5.0 HO,Comp XE266,TW 170,T5,etc. 73 Dart Sport 340, 410ci Bracket Brawler 72 Demon 340 4-speed 1 of 1667 01 Ram Quad Cab 03 Grizzley 660

August 27th, 2011, 11:13 PM	#4
furreal302 Regular 94 GT 13.95@100 Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: NY Posts: 435 iTrader: 2 reviews	can i have your engine? __________________ 94 Opal Frost GT ~230k T5 swap, other mods

August 27th, 2011, 11:29 PM	#6
nolife MM Fanatic 91GT, 88GT, 02GT Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 3,057 Blog Entries: 3 iTrader: 0 reviews	What rpm are you taking it and what compression? Assuming 9.0 and 6250... A 331 with AFR 205's, 330-370 RWHP. Take it higher and more power. __________________ Last edited by nolife; August 27th, 2011 at 11:45 PM.

August 28th, 2011, 12:41 PM	#8
69fastback Premium Member 1969 Mustang Mach 1 6.824@101.61 Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Oklahoma jackass, get to driving Posts: 5,565 iTrader: 0 reviews	Take the cubes and go for the 347. And what is a 1450 camshaft? __________________ ./___ _ ____ ___ \. ( ]]] _ _ O _ _ [[[ ) \_ o _ _____ _ o _/ \|___\| ......... \|___\| http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HyYU3...e_gdata_player

August 27th, 2011, 10:44 PM	#3
ADavis40 Newbie 1989 Mustang gt Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Kentucky Posts: 28 iTrader: 0 reviews	We was wandering could we get 400 hp to the rear wheel?

August 27th, 2011, 11:17 PM	#5
ADavis40 Newbie 1989 Mustang gt Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Kentucky Posts: 28 iTrader: 0 reviews	Heck no lol.

August 28th, 2011, 11:30 AM	#7
ADavis40 Newbie 1989 Mustang gt Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Kentucky Posts: 28 iTrader: 0 reviews	To make max power it redlines at 65000 rpms.

August 28th, 2011, 01:01 PM	#9
ADavis40 Newbie 1989 Mustang gt Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Kentucky Posts: 28 iTrader: 0 reviews	I will be honest man, this is my unlces engine he has had it for alittle while now and I was just putting down the information from the paper from dss, he was just wandering how much hp he should be looking at to the ground.

August 29th, 2011, 02:28 PM	#10
StangBanger302 Hardcore Enthusiast 1992 Mustang LX 13.0 @ 105 Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: New York Posts: 2,230 iTrader: 0 reviews	To the ground? Ask what compression he is at and we'll assume you're spinning it to 7,000...probably 380 to the tire. __________________ As I lay rubber down the street I pray for traction I can keep But if I spin, and begin to slide Please dear God, protect my ride

August 29th, 2011, 06:07 PM	#11
ADavis40 Newbie 1989 Mustang gt Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Kentucky Posts: 28 iTrader: 0 reviews	Intake: Holley System Max Compression: 10:9:1 Exahust: Flow master super 44's 2 1/2 inch Camshaft: Comp cams .565/.574 Also the engine has the following. Bbk shorty headers, 70 mm Throttle body, 24 ft/lb injectors, 4:30 gears, Adjustable fuel pressure regulator, 208/160 valves and a zex nitorous kit that is 75-125 dry shot that is not hooked up yet. Also on the injectors do you think that we should get a bigger set of injectors, or just leave them the same? He is hoping to get 400 hp to the ground on motor do you all think it is possible with this current setup? Also if you all have any more questions be sure to ask.

August 29th, 2011, 08:57 PM	#13
ADavis40 Newbie 1989 Mustang gt Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Kentucky Posts: 28 iTrader: 0 reviews	He just got married has not had enough money lol.

September 5th, 2011, 08:37 PM	#16
ADavis40 Newbie 1989 Mustang gt Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Kentucky Posts: 28 iTrader: 0 reviews	He can not have long tube headers, because of the lakewood bell housing it will not clear it. He is wanting to have 400 hp to the rear wheels just on motor, he said that he would try to get some bigger injectors he is thinking about 36 ft/lb is that too much or just about right? Also what brand would you be looking at for the injectors and would you recommoned getting a bigger throttle body? If so what size would you be running? Thanks for the help.

September 5th, 2011, 09:20 PM	#17
Bubba95SN Regular 1995 Mustang GT Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Jacksonville NC Posts: 211 iTrader: 0 reviews	Use Comp Cam Desktop Dyno.

September 6th, 2011, 01:23 AM	#18
BassMaster5000 Regular '90 Mustang GT Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Tacoma, Wa Posts: 86 iTrader: 0 reviews	I've got 342/364 to the wheels out of my most recent dyno tune, with a similar 331 stroker set up.. Like everyone else has said, run a bigger throttle body and some longtubes.. there are longtubes that fit around the lakewood bell housing. Kooks for instance are high in price, but some of the best headers you can buy, and will fit your application. __________________ 90 Gt- 331 Stroker, Forged Internals, TW Ported Heads, 30# Injectors w/ adjustable Kirban Fuel Pressure Reg, CI Custom Cam, Holley Systemax, 70mm Accufab TB, 75mm ProM MAF, BBK Fenderwell. Dyno'd at 342/364 best E.T. is 12.8/109.

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September 6th, 2011, 04:15 PM	#19
ADavis40 Newbie 1989 Mustang gt Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Kentucky Posts: 28 iTrader: 0 reviews	Is there any other brands that you know of that has long tube headers that would work on the lakewood bell housing? Also would it be alright to run a 75 mm throttle body or should he go with a 80 mm throttle body? Also what would be better on the injectors, 30 ft/lb or 36 ft/lb and what brand would you all recommoned? I think he is wanting to run the zex nitrous kit so I figured that I would say the 36 ft/lb injectors with the 80 mm tb should be good enough? Also if he changes injectors, throttle body, and long tube headers how close would he be to 400 rwhp or could he even reach this on motor? Thanks for all the help. Last edited by ADavis40; September 6th, 2011 at 05:03 PM.

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