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Synthetic engine oil dyno shootout. WHICH MAKES MORE HP ON THE DYNO??


SOME PEOPLE SAY YES AND SOME PEOPLE SAY NO. CHECK THIS VIDEO OUT. YOU MAY BE SUPRISED!
Engine Oil Dyno Shootout on EVO
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good information! wonder if they sell nulon around here though..
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They didn't make even one run with a conventional (non synthetic) oil for comparison? FAIL!
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Originally Posted by anothermustanguy View Post
they didn't make even one run with a conventional (non synthetic) oil for comparison? Fail!
i agree! I tried to find a synthetic vs conventional dyno shootout but couldnt.
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Originally Posted by bennyjet846 View Post
good information! Wonder if they sell nulon around here though..
id like to get some.
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yea i been using royal purple so i'm glad to see they did some tests on it.
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yea i been using royal purple so i'm glad to see they did some tests on it.
ive been using mobil 1 for years. apon further research i think i found the best FULLY synthetic oil. this eneos oil is produced strictly in the lab and uses no base stock mineral oil at all. check it out.

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Why do you think it is the best synthetic oil? What does the "best synthetic oil" even mean? You do know that video is a paid for placement done by PowerTV right? It is far from a real repeatable comparison test and there is not enough details to be useful.
Four things stand out which for me raises concern about the whole video and their marketing strategy.
- Who the hell is "Mark from PowerTV"? What is PowerTV? PowerTV is a media advertising company that will produce any video you pay them to make.
- They claim a "leading Japanese oil" was the oil they compared it too. Why not mention the other product by name? I have my guesses why.
- If you listen really close, you will note that the "leading Japanese oil" they used was 20W50 which is a thick racing oil. The Eneos they used was 0W50, a thinner oil. It was not a fair apples to apples comparison. Thinner oil = more HP and better fuel mileage. DUH!
- They claim that if his car was a 2WD, it would have gained more HP. That make NO SENSE at all and a clever twist on words. Made more HP compared to what? Wouldn't the other oil have gained more HP as well if was 2WD? Drive train losses are a fixed percentage. They were measuring wheel HP.

I'm not comparing their oil to anything or saying it is good or bad but I'd hang out in dedicated oil forums before deciding what you think the best oil for your application is.
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why do you think it is the best synthetic oil? What does the "best synthetic oil" mean to you? What research did you do? Are you representing them or do you or anyone you know have any financial interest in their products because your video and comments sure looks suspicious.
lol! Im not affiliated with any oil companies or anyone that is affiliated. I have done alot of research on synthetic oils over the past two years and have been searching for the best syn oil for heat wear, horsepower and torque gains. Like i said earlier i have used mobil 1 for a very long time and often wondered if there was better synthetic oils on the market. My research consisted of if the oils were purely synthetic or made from mineral/petroleum base stocks, and how much heat they can take and how much hp and tq they made on the dyno. From what i have learned about the american standard on synthetic oilis that they are not purely synthetic at all because they were formulated from mineral and petroleum bases. There are a ton of loopholes in the american standard where in japan, europe and austrailia they cannot call their oil fully synthetic unless it has been strictly lab created by not using mineral or petroleum bases. Eneos oil makes the most hp and tq compared to any other lab created oil on the market today and holds up to the highest heat. That is why i say that eneos is the best pure synthetic oil on the market. I still use mobil 1 in my vehicles and stand by their product but when it comes down to the performance and formulation of eneos it dont even compare. I cant wait for them to start selling it in the us.
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I had edited my last reply a few minutes before you quoted it taking out the part about you shilling and added more about the video before you quoted it..

Either way.
That oil may be the best the world has ever seen for the three specific hand picked specs you chose, I don't know, that wasn't my point. You posted a obviously flawed, biased, "comparison" video made by a marketing company and I pointed that out. I was not trying to compare specific oils and brands. I don't do that here and never have, that is what various oil forums like bobistheoilguy.com is for.

There are not tons of loopholes, there is exactly one difference. In North America, oil with a certain percentage of group III base stock can be labeled as synthetic, in Japan, the oil must be a certain percentage of group IV base stock to be considered synthetic and as a side note, all group IV oil needs to be mixed with another group (other than group IV) as a carrier to properly disperse the additive package because of its solubility properties. From my reading and limited experience, the group base is important for some specific characteristics you may want but the final mixed product that is in the bottle may be a mix of different stocks and additives and that final product makes the bigger difference than just the base stock group that was used. Is a group III base with a really good additive package for your situation better or worse than a group IV with an additive package that you don't benefit from? That is why I asked you "What does the "best synthetic oil" even mean?" Best is a moving target.
If you desire a group IV based oil, what are you waiting for? There are already many choices on the market and there have been for many years.
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Its all based on opinion. It all depends what you want and or like in your choice of oil. My "best" oil may be the worst for somebody else. There are far too many variables. I like and prefer mobil 1 for my vehicles and know its not the best on the market, but i trust it and have used it for years. The only reason i said that eneos was the "best" is because of the information i gathered on the internet and it superceeded all other brands in effective lubrication range, fluidity, volatility, flash point and oil consumption. It also made the most hp and tq on the dyno in more then one test video. I posted these videos to get feedback from other members and see what kinds of opinions they would form. Plus the videos break up the monotony of reading posts and were somewhat interesting and educational.
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I use royal purple i feel im in good hands, no need to cry over a few ponies
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too many folks are under the impression that just because a lubricant is "full synthetic", it must be way superior...
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This is no different in reading a magazine article about a cylinder head comparison. It's a paid advertisement.
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