351 windsor vs 351 cleveland

ILLWILL · October 24th, 2011, 05:54 PM

i want to but a 351 windsor or a 351 cleveland in my 87 notch i have asked a few people wich one is better and ive got all differnt answers so i was wondering what u guy have to say

ryanw · October 24th, 2011, 08:05 PM

I dont know that much about them. But windsor will be cheaper to build. As for cleveland, i think they only made them for a few years so parts cost a lot more. but im thinking that with the after market parts being every where for the windsor that you should be able to build some thing that would leave a cleavland in the dust.

I think cleveland are know for there big cylinder heads and flowing alot. so back in the day cleveland would have been the best....but today i dont think it matters...

like i said i dont know alot about them so dont take every thing i said as being 100% true. Id wait for fogged306 to chime in, he knows alot about a lot of things... lol

uedlose · October 24th, 2011, 08:14 PM

Cleveland's are killer engines but aftermarket parts are getting hard to come buy they take there own oil pan and intakes and exhaust. Really in the end while I like the 351C the 351W is just a better now 30 years ago and I would say 351C. The 351W just makes more sense in a fox I have a friend that ran a 351C for years and has 351c parts stacked to the roof but he runs a stroked 351w in his car.

ILLWILL · October 24th, 2011, 08:43 PM

ok thanks guys

86gt351w · October 25th, 2011, 04:00 AM

Windsor all the way, way more parts available, don't know shit about clevelands, I have a 1969 351 block bored out, with lots of goodies motor runs strong!!!! I put roughly 7,000 to 9,000 on it a year it's got about 400hp and I redline the engine at 7,200 granted the guy that built the motor really knows his shit, but I love it and if you decide to go bigger it's gonna hold the power, a Cleveland may to idk.

fogged306 · October 25th, 2011, 10:30 AM

Stock for stock, the cleveland was a better engine. Smaller mains, bigger heads. Nothing windsor ever made would compare to a good 4v cleveland head. That being said, cleveland parts aren't cheap, and they had oiling issues. The ideal engine IMO is a clevor, windsor block (aftermarket windsor block with cleveland mains if you've got the cash) and cleveland heads intake. The canted valve design of a cleveland head is better than the inline design of a windsor.... Thanks for the compliment ryan, but in the grand scheme of things, I really don't know shit, lol.

ryanw · October 25th, 2011, 04:59 PM

^ lol. Hey bro you knowa lot more then I ever will. Your comments and answers are vary well thought out. And most of the time you back your answers up with facts. So if I don't know the my answer will be " just wait for fogged306 to chime in" lmao

October 24th, 2011, 05:54 PM	#1
ILLWILL Newbie 1987,mustang,lx Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Maryland Posts: 21 iTrader: 0 reviews	351 windsor vs 351 cleveland i want to but a 351 windsor or a 351 cleveland in my 87 notch i have asked a few people wich one is better and ive got all differnt answers so i was wondering what u guy have to say

October 24th, 2011, 08:05 PM	#2
ryanw I Post Entirely Way Too Much 1991 Ford Mustang GT Join Date: May 2007 Location: San Diego, California Posts: 6,063 iTrader: 0 reviews	I dont know that much about them. But windsor will be cheaper to build. As for cleveland, i think they only made them for a few years so parts cost a lot more. but im thinking that with the after market parts being every where for the windsor that you should be able to build some thing that would leave a cleavland in the dust. I think cleveland are know for there big cylinder heads and flowing alot. so back in the day cleveland would have been the best....but today i dont think it matters... like i said i dont know alot about them so dont take every thing i said as being 100% true. Id wait for fogged306 to chime in, he knows alot about a lot of things... lol __________________ DART 331ci stroker, AFR 185 heads, Trick Flow R intake, Accufab 70mm tb, 75mm pro m Maf, 30lb injectors, jba headers, 2 1/2" x pipe flowmaster super 10 mufflers, 255 fuel pump, 3:27 gears

October 24th, 2011, 08:14 PM	#3
uedlose Regular 89 Mustang Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Middle Way WV Posts: 184 iTrader: 0 reviews	Cleveland's are killer engines but aftermarket parts are getting hard to come buy they take there own oil pan and intakes and exhaust. Really in the end while I like the 351C the 351W is just a better now 30 years ago and I would say 351C. The 351W just makes more sense in a fox I have a friend that ran a 351C for years and has 351c parts stacked to the roof but he runs a stroked 351w in his car. __________________ Just another turbo Mustang..No dyno numbers just good ets and MPH. And yes it is fast for a street car. few parts for sale https://docs.google.com/document/d/1...l=en_US&pli=1#

October 25th, 2011, 04:59 PM	#7
ryanw I Post Entirely Way Too Much 1991 Ford Mustang GT Join Date: May 2007 Location: San Diego, California Posts: 6,063 iTrader: 0 reviews	^ lol. Hey bro you knowa lot more then I ever will. Your comments and answers are vary well thought out. And most of the time you back your answers up with facts. So if I don't know the my answer will be " just wait for fogged306 to chime in" lmao __________________ DART 331ci stroker, AFR 185 heads, Trick Flow R intake, Accufab 70mm tb, 75mm pro m Maf, 30lb injectors, jba headers, 2 1/2" x pipe flowmaster super 10 mufflers, 255 fuel pump, 3:27 gears Last edited by ryanw; October 25th, 2011 at 08:24 PM.

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October 24th, 2011, 08:43 PM	#4
ILLWILL Newbie 1987,mustang,lx Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Maryland Posts: 21 iTrader: 0 reviews	ok thanks guys

October 25th, 2011, 04:00 AM	#5
86gt351w Regular 1986 ford mustang gt 351w Join Date: May 2011 Location: Central IL Posts: 109 iTrader: 0 reviews	Windsor all the way, way more parts available, don't know shit about clevelands, I have a 1969 351 block bored out, with lots of goodies motor runs strong!!!! I put roughly 7,000 to 9,000 on it a year it's got about 400hp and I redline the engine at 7,200 granted the guy that built the motor really knows his shit, but I love it and if you decide to go bigger it's gonna hold the power, a Cleveland may to idk.

October 25th, 2011, 10:30 AM	#6
fogged306 MM Fanatic 89 GT Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: NY Posts: 4,875 iTrader: 2 reviews	Stock for stock, the cleveland was a better engine. Smaller mains, bigger heads. Nothing windsor ever made would compare to a good 4v cleveland head. That being said, cleveland parts aren't cheap, and they had oiling issues. The ideal engine IMO is a clevor, windsor block (aftermarket windsor block with cleveland mains if you've got the cash) and cleveland heads intake. The canted valve design of a cleveland head is better than the inline design of a windsor.... Thanks for the compliment ryan, but in the grand scheme of things, I really don't know shit, lol.

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