[Superrmario]

Hey guys. Not too shy to mention that I need basic direction regarding the 5.0 Fox Body. I have done searchs, but there are so many options.

As it stands now, I have a host of supporting mods in the car that i just purchased. If you check my first post:

New to Ford, not to fast!

You will see the list of supporting mods and where i come from regarding automobiles.

With that said, I am looking for a bit of direction regarding getting the car into the High 11's. Mid 11's would be nice, but its not a world ender if i dont.

I have always been a fan of forced induction, and it seems that the 5.0 crowd likes this option. If you are willing to drop the $ on NA motor, then that is also another option.

I am willing to spend a few $ to get this thing compeditive on the "Street Light" circut so to speak, and I would like to be able to give good passes at the track. Not willing to dump a fortune though.

What would fit my expectations, and what rear would you run?

GT-40 / Explorer Heads and intake Ported and Polished, Factory Cam and a Paxton / Vortech blower?

The same Head and intake package with an STS Turbo?

Go NA? If it was NA, what am I looking at in the expense department?? I am not looking for a 347ci motor or that huge expense. Can it be done on the factory short block with a better top end with no spray?

Obviously there are more supporting mods that would go along in this department to allow an 11 second pass, so that is not an issue. Clutch, U Joints, Suspention, Rear..

I want to clarify that I am not a financially Broke Teen looking for the fastest car on the road. (Not that there is anything wrong with that, at that age). I am 32, have a good Job, make deicent $ and have a girlfriend that supports my love of Fast Cars and RC Heli's.

Thanks for reading my Bible, I appreciate any feedback.

[uedlose]

A turbo with supporting fuel mods will put a stock fox into the 11s if it hooks. Not a fan of the STS stuff unless they have a front mount for a Fox IMO. a built stock rear will take just about all you can throw at it. is this a auto or stick?

[Superrmario]

Originally Posted by uedlose A turbo with supporting fuel mods will put a stock fox into the 11s if it hooks. Not a fan of the STS stuff unless they have a front mount for a Fox IMO. a built stock rear will take just about all you can throw at it. is this a auto or stick?

T-5

STS does make front mounts, or i can always shoe horn an AGP or Exhaust Depot Front mount.

[steveofire]

Hey there I know I might get crap for this one I would go turbo and dont hesitate to look at the ebay turbo kits u can pick one up for around less than 1400 now the only reason I say that is I have an ebay turbo kit on my 94 cobra I have had it 3 years now still running the knock off turbo that came with the kit and that thing still runs strong, instant spool and no smoking granted this is my last year running that size as I was out of flow at 600 hp here is a vid I shot about 3 weeks ago

94 Cobra Boost Brothers Turbo Kit Burnout from Dead Stop no Power Braking - YouTube

94 Cobra Boost Brothers Turbo Kit Burnout from Dead Stop no Power Braking - YouTube

[Superrmario]

Originally Posted by steveofire Hey there I know I might get crap for this one I would go turbo and dont hesitate to look at the ebay turbo kits u can pick one up for around less than 1400 now the only reason I say that is I have an ebay turbo kit on my 94 cobra I have had it 3 years now still running the knock off turbo that came with the kit and that thing still runs strong, instant spool and no smoking granted this is my last year running that size as I was out of flow at 600 hp here is a vid I shot about 3 weeks ago 94 Cobra Boost Brothers Turbo Kit Burnout from Dead Stop no Power Braking - YouTube

I appreciate the information and thank you.

I choose to stay away from "off brand" so to speak due to bad experiences.

[uedlose]

BG turbos and Pony Down make nice kits and they are made here and are priced right check them out . Good luck with the T5 holding out for you.

[bluestang1724]

are you leaning more towards forced induction? My N/A 95 runs neck and neck with my stock Termi. but has ALOT of $$$ tied into it. forced induction would probably get you closer to where you want for less money IMO. also to be honset i hanent heard anything bad about the EBAY turbos. you could always go that route, and with supporting mods get in the 12's without much of a problem

[steveofire]

Originally Posted by uedlose Good luck with the T5 holding out for you.

lol I here ya there I went through 3 of them last year kept breaking the counter shaft bar nothing like doing that 40 miles from home and having to drive in only 4 gear listening to pieces rattling around in the tranny lol

[Superrmario]

Originally Posted by uedlose BG turbos and Pony Down make nice kits and they are made here and are priced right check them out . Good luck with the T5 holding out for you.

I have heard about the T-5 not keeping up with itself. LOL

I'll take your word on it, and check into the inexpensive Turbos.

Originally Posted by bluestang1724 are you leaning more towards forced induction? My N/A 95 runs neck and neck with my stock Termi. but has ALOT of $$$ tied into it. forced induction would probably get you closer to where you want for less money IMO. also to be honset i hanent heard anything bad about the EBAY turbos. you could always go that route, and with supporting mods get in the 12's without much of a problem

Thanks for the info.

So I have been doing a bit of research. I am more of a simple bolt on and go kinda person. I place the parts on the car, and go. Granted I am fully capable of doing the job the "right" way, so I have no issues with that, but honestly, I hate working on the thing unless I have to. I would rather pay someone who has developed a proven system (See Below). I dont want to take a Explorer intake and put explorer heads on it, but maybe have to Drill this or that yadda yadda. Hope you know what I mean...

After talking to a few of my buddies, they said to call Trick Flow to see what they had to offer.

With that said, Trick Flow stated the Twisted Wedge Top end kit would be the way to go. The cam that comes with it is happy to accept a blower at acceptable boost levels as well and the heads will flow extra boost no problem. For $2600, i dont think that is too bad of a deal, and it will get me to my goal once I slap a Turbo / Blower on it...

Trick Flow Specialties TFS-K514-350370B - Trick Flow® 350 HP Twisted Wedge® Top-End Engine Kits for Ford 5.0L - Overview - SummitRacing.com

I know I will need Injectors, Fuel Pump, 70mm TB and the such for the above kit, and I think that spending the extra would be favorable so when i do put a Blower / Turbo on the car the fuel mods will already be there.

Question, when it comes to MAF and calibration i am clueless.... Do OBD1 cars require a chip or calibration to run correct mixtures without being pig rich or piston burning lean?

I am used to Carb Cars ie: bigger carb, more fuel and adjust Jets or OBD2 where I would just buy a canned tune and flash the PCM for the correct AFR's / EGT's...

Any pro's / con's on the Trick Flow kit?

[uedlose]

your car is not OBD anything big +. also if you run a turbo and all you want is 11s you can get there with stock heads why spend the cash if you dont have to as far as times go I have seen stock headed turbo stangs in the high 10s in light good hooking cars. But yes the TFS kit is nice and would let you make more power with less boost. But dont forget with good heads and intake and cam with a turbo you will be reaching the end of the stock block as far as to how much power they will take.

[steveofire]

yes you will need a chip to tune ur car there is diablo or sct to have a tuner shop do it or if you are good with the understands of everything you could get a qurter horse or tweecer setup and tune everything by your self from a laptop. if your looking for any parts I am going to be selling off everything I have because I am going to a blow thru carb setup. as for a maf with a turbo you can do blow thru or draw thru I used a c&l 85mm tuner tube with my stock cobra maf and that is good up to 1000 before it hits 5 volts and it runs smooth and idles nice

[Superrmario]

Originally Posted by uedlose your car is not OBD anything big +. also if you run a turbo and all you want is 11s you can get there with stock heads why spend the cash if you dont have to as far as times go I have seen stock headed turbo stangs in the high 10s in light good hooking cars. But yes the TFS kit is nice and would let you make more power with less boost. But dont forget with good heads and intake and cam with a turbo you will be reaching the end of the stock block as far as to how much power they will take.

No OBD1???

If it isnt too much to ask.. Stock head in the 11's....

Please give me more insite?

What mods?

[SloMo]

To the OP, I have a hand full of turbo parts in the for sale section. Really only need the turbo of your choice with matching down pipe, and the items for the tune.

[bluestang1724]

i like trick flow they make good products. i have the track heat heads, and intake and not a single issue and make a nice diff. the amount of money and time you'll spend on building a built N/A setup will probably cost more than a simple supercharger setup. the only thing stock on my 95 is the block, crank, and connecting rods. and its only neck and neck with my Termi. honestly you should save the money and get some type of F/I.

[uedlose]

Originally Posted by Superrmario No OBD1??? If it isnt too much to ask.. Stock head in the 11's.... Please give me more insite? What mods?

NOPE NO OBD. I have a customer I did a car for 306 gt40p heads procharger p600b ported cobra intake 3 core intercooler 14psi/10 at the intake e cam headers 42# injectors C4 4000 stall 4.10 rear gears. NO TUNE other then what I caould do with a timming light and a DVM 95mm PMAS mass air 70mm t/b full weight hatch the car runs 7.0?in the 1/8 mile lifting the front wheels 4in in the air when it leaves. do the math thats is anywhere from low 11s to high 10s in the 1/4 and the car has been running 4 years now.
this same set up on our old coupe ran 11.50 with stock heads. Now with the turbo you are freeing up HP not turning the S/C and the engine will see full boost sooner with the turbo then the S/C.
Another guy I know just made 477 RWHP with stock heads and a On 3 turbo kit get that power to the ground and that is easy 11s. look around they do it all the time.