Rear swaybar question

Macunicorn · November 2nd, 2011, 01:20 PM

Originally Posted by ReverendDexter

Mac - not moving the arms forward, moving the pickup points up. The idea is that at rest, the control arm should slope slightly downward toward the outside.

And I'm not sure what you mean by "steering" in this context. I take that to mean steering angle, which this has no effect on.

Oh I c your changing the angle at static rest oh ok. Thx

Instead of tuning with sway bars to reduce or eliminate under or oversteer couldnt you adjust springs to get a more neutral setup.

Just for curiousity.

ReverendDexter · November 2nd, 2011, 01:25 PM

Sure you could change your spring rate. But for anything outside of a racecar, to have spring rates high enough for proper roll control will be too harsh for most people on the street.

And I lied - moving the A-arm forward WILL affect steering: it'll add caster, which will cost you some steering angle.

Macunicorn · November 2nd, 2011, 01:31 PM

Originally Posted by ReverendDexter

Sure you could change your spring rate. But for anything outside of a racecar, to have spring rates high enough for proper roll control will be too harsh for most people on the street.

And I lied - moving the A-arm forward WILL affect steering: it'll add caster, which will cost you some steering angle.

Ya I was thinking that to how it will effect castor angles and decrease steering etc. Thx I figured the ride quality would be unbearable to adjust spring rates for a street car LOL.

EscortSportage · November 2nd, 2011, 03:13 PM

I want to know what a coilover spring rate thats unbarable for street

Im running 400 f and 300r. And ive heard that thats to stiff for street. And i disagree. I love it

EscortSportage · November 2nd, 2011, 03:15 PM

I just met a drifter with a 240sx. Running 1200 springs up front and 1000 in the rear. And he drives the car everyday. I think that is a lil much

But he needs those springrates for drifting...

ReverendDexter · November 2nd, 2011, 03:33 PM

Originally Posted by EscortSportage

But he needs those springrates for drifting...

I disagree, you don't need to be that stiff. Hell, most guys I know that drift 240s do so on cut stock springs.

EscortSportage · November 2nd, 2011, 04:08 PM

I guess its his personal preference the. I bet he has no body roll

EscortSportage · November 2nd, 2011, 04:08 PM

Prolly no tire grip either hahah

ReverendDexter · November 2nd, 2011, 04:12 PM

tru' dat.

EscortSportage · November 3rd, 2011, 12:14 PM

Sooo since we r on the topic of swaybars. Have u ever heard of weldig a bead or two with a mig welder to stiffen the bar even more...im never doing this but i thought that was interesting

ReverendDexter · November 3rd, 2011, 12:18 PM

I haven't heard of welding beads, but I have heard of people stacking bars

Macunicorn · November 3rd, 2011, 12:26 PM

It would b easier just to run an adjustable rear bar. That way you can fine tune ur setup.

ReverendDexter · November 3rd, 2011, 12:58 PM

But it's WAY cheaper to just get a half-dozen hose clamps and pull another rear bar out of the junkyard, lol.

EscortSportage · November 3rd, 2011, 07:30 PM

Well on the adjustable from mm. Thats where i started i wanted mm front and rear bars...600 dollars later. Im like. Ill try junkyard finds first

Cheap and kinda fun

Macunicorn · November 3rd, 2011, 07:33 PM

i think Griggs makes an adjustable front sway bar.

ReverendDexter · November 3rd, 2011, 09:05 PM

Originally Posted by Macunicorn

i think Griggs makes an adjustable front sway bar.

Yeah, ask Jazzer about that one, hahaha.

EscortSportage · November 3rd, 2011, 10:30 PM

Grigg is priceyyy!!!!!

And im sticking with mm. Ill have the entire catelog soon

john98 · November 4th, 2011, 11:29 PM

So has anyone stacked bars on a mustang? Can't find any non import info on it

EscortSportage · November 5th, 2011, 01:06 AM

Thats gotta be some super low budget thing, think about all the different stock bars from 79 to 04. Then aftermarket on top of that, id think there would be no really good reason to stack bars other than having no money...

ReverendDexter · November 5th, 2011, 12:40 PM

Originally Posted by john98

So has anyone stacked bars on a mustang? Can't find any non import info on it

Try the GRM boards.

November 2nd, 2011, 01:25 PM	#22
ReverendDexter Priest of the Car Gods Clapped-out '90 GT 'vert ~5.5 seconds off TTOD :( Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Rohnert Park, CA Posts: 13,808 iTrader: 0 reviews	Sure you could change your spring rate. But for anything outside of a racecar, to have spring rates high enough for proper roll control will be too harsh for most people on the street. And I lied - moving the A-arm forward WILL affect steering: it'll add caster, which will cost you some steering angle. __________________ O o /¯/______________________ \|BLAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARGH!!! \_\

November 2nd, 2011, 03:13 PM	#24
EscortSportage Hardcore Enthusiast 1989 Mustang GT 5.0 Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: CT Posts: 2,186 iTrader: 0 reviews	I want to know what a coilover spring rate thats unbarable for street Im running 400 f and 300r. And ive heard that thats to stiff for street. And i disagree. I love it __________________ Cage Maximum Motorsports Sparco QH/BE Nitto "a huge bad azz motor is nice untill you have to turn or stop"

November 2nd, 2011, 03:15 PM	#25
EscortSportage Hardcore Enthusiast 1989 Mustang GT 5.0 Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: CT Posts: 2,186 iTrader: 0 reviews	I just met a drifter with a 240sx. Running 1200 springs up front and 1000 in the rear. And he drives the car everyday. I think that is a lil much But he needs those springrates for drifting... __________________ Cage Maximum Motorsports Sparco QH/BE Nitto "a huge bad azz motor is nice untill you have to turn or stop"

November 2nd, 2011, 04:08 PM	#27
EscortSportage Hardcore Enthusiast 1989 Mustang GT 5.0 Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: CT Posts: 2,186 iTrader: 0 reviews	I guess its his personal preference the. I bet he has no body roll __________________ Cage Maximum Motorsports Sparco QH/BE Nitto "a huge bad azz motor is nice untill you have to turn or stop"

November 2nd, 2011, 04:08 PM	#28
EscortSportage Hardcore Enthusiast 1989 Mustang GT 5.0 Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: CT Posts: 2,186 iTrader: 0 reviews	Prolly no tire grip either hahah __________________ Cage Maximum Motorsports Sparco QH/BE Nitto "a huge bad azz motor is nice untill you have to turn or stop"

November 2nd, 2011, 04:12 PM	#29
ReverendDexter Priest of the Car Gods Clapped-out '90 GT 'vert ~5.5 seconds off TTOD :( Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Rohnert Park, CA Posts: 13,808 iTrader: 0 reviews	tru' dat. __________________ O o /¯/______________________ \|BLAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARGH!!! \_\

November 3rd, 2011, 12:14 PM	#30
EscortSportage Hardcore Enthusiast 1989 Mustang GT 5.0 Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: CT Posts: 2,186 iTrader: 0 reviews	Sooo since we r on the topic of swaybars. Have u ever heard of weldig a bead or two with a mig welder to stiffen the bar even more...im never doing this but i thought that was interesting __________________ Cage Maximum Motorsports Sparco QH/BE Nitto "a huge bad azz motor is nice untill you have to turn or stop"

November 3rd, 2011, 12:18 PM	#31
ReverendDexter Priest of the Car Gods Clapped-out '90 GT 'vert ~5.5 seconds off TTOD :( Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Rohnert Park, CA Posts: 13,808 iTrader: 0 reviews	I haven't heard of welding beads, but I have heard of people stacking bars __________________ O o /¯/______________________ \|BLAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARGH!!! \_\

November 3rd, 2011, 12:26 PM	#32
Macunicorn Hardcore Enthusiast Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Huntington Beach, Ca Posts: 1,219 iTrader: 0 reviews	It would b easier just to run an adjustable rear bar. That way you can fine tune ur setup. __________________ Sig by Tricep

November 3rd, 2011, 12:58 PM	#33
ReverendDexter Priest of the Car Gods Clapped-out '90 GT 'vert ~5.5 seconds off TTOD :( Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Rohnert Park, CA Posts: 13,808 iTrader: 0 reviews	But it's WAY cheaper to just get a half-dozen hose clamps and pull another rear bar out of the junkyard, lol. __________________ O o /¯/______________________ \|BLAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARGH!!! \_\

November 3rd, 2011, 07:30 PM	#34
EscortSportage Hardcore Enthusiast 1989 Mustang GT 5.0 Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: CT Posts: 2,186 iTrader: 0 reviews	Well on the adjustable from mm. Thats where i started i wanted mm front and rear bars...600 dollars later. Im like. Ill try junkyard finds first Cheap and kinda fun __________________ Cage Maximum Motorsports Sparco QH/BE Nitto "a huge bad azz motor is nice untill you have to turn or stop"

November 3rd, 2011, 07:33 PM	#35
Macunicorn Hardcore Enthusiast Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Huntington Beach, Ca Posts: 1,219 iTrader: 0 reviews	i think Griggs makes an adjustable front sway bar. __________________ Sig by Tricep

November 3rd, 2011, 10:30 PM	#37
EscortSportage Hardcore Enthusiast 1989 Mustang GT 5.0 Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: CT Posts: 2,186 iTrader: 0 reviews	Grigg is priceyyy!!!!! And im sticking with mm. Ill have the entire catelog soon __________________ Cage Maximum Motorsports Sparco QH/BE Nitto "a huge bad azz motor is nice untill you have to turn or stop"

November 4th, 2011, 11:29 PM	#38
john98 Regular 1998 Mustang GT Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Cape Canaveral,Florida Posts: 163 iTrader: 0 reviews	So has anyone stacked bars on a mustang? Can't find any non import info on it __________________

November 5th, 2011, 01:06 AM	#39
EscortSportage Hardcore Enthusiast 1989 Mustang GT 5.0 Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: CT Posts: 2,186 iTrader: 0 reviews	Thats gotta be some super low budget thing, think about all the different stock bars from 79 to 04. Then aftermarket on top of that, id think there would be no really good reason to stack bars other than having no money... __________________ Cage Maximum Motorsports Sparco QH/BE Nitto "a huge bad azz motor is nice untill you have to turn or stop"

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