Help with plan of attack

brought_pain · October 31st, 2011, 05:26 PM

I got an 83 mustang and would like some ideas/oppinions. I've taken the car to 3 places to have the chassis checked and all 3 say no signs of damage. No computer or measurements, just eyeballed.

My plan is go through most of the car and fix it up. 5 lug conv., new motor, new trans, new diff, new interior, 91-93 fender, sub frame connectors, etc. This car is a daily driver. I was planning a back to front, bottom up approach. I feel a bit flustered thinking about where to begin now.

ryanw · October 31st, 2011, 05:33 PM

I'm not sure. But I'd do some research to make sure your wheels will still line up in the center of the wheel wells before you go spending money on the newer fenders. I'm guess you want 17in wheels ?

ryanw · October 31st, 2011, 05:36 PM

Why did you have the sub frames checked out was it wrecked ? If you went through the effort of taking it to 3 different shops to have it looked at, why didn't you just take it to one place and have it checked on a frame machine ?

brought_pain · October 31st, 2011, 05:46 PM

YEAH, different, bigger RIMS. Believe it or not I couldn't find anybody with a "frame machine"...
I also seem to find the bend-you-over-sorts, so wether I'm not fixing stuff that ain't broke, or not paying for stuff I don't want/plan on upgrading, its been a bit of a hassle.

I had the chassis checked because I don't want to strengthen a tweaked chassis...

horsepowerjunkie · October 31st, 2011, 11:08 PM

Any body shop that's been doing business in the past 20 years should have a frame machine. It sounds like you took your car to shops with some lazy employee's.

Roadrashjr · November 1st, 2011, 01:07 AM

Yeah.. Make sure you take it somewhere reputable. Preferably if you know of a good mechanic around. I took my car to get my strut checked out and the guy at les schwab tried to convince me my front axle was bent.. lol

EscortSportage · November 1st, 2011, 06:56 AM

To start: FL subframe connectors, grab an 8.8 out of a newer fox, grab hubs,spindles,brakes and axles from a 1994 or 1995 only mustang theres ur 5 lug and rear wheel disc setup, while ur under there call maximum motorsports and order the 5 stainless steel brake hoses. Very nice pieces i might add i just put em on myself, ur gonna need a bigger master cylinder and a brake proportion valve. They reps at mm will tell u all the stuff u need.

Lower ctrl arms

EscortSportage · November 1st, 2011, 07:00 AM

Lower torque box reinforcements.
Junk your quad shocks
Bump the timing up to 15 degrees
Junk smog pump and charcoal canister

brought_pain · November 6th, 2011, 02:33 PM

Driving it back from an alignment shop, it started losing power. Stopped at a light I see a puff of smoke come out. So I pull down a back street, lift the hood, and the engine is smoking and oozing black stuff out of the valve covers and intake manifold.

...fast forward past the waiting over 2hrs for a tow...

...

Mom asks me to drive her to get her vitamins...sure mom...
Stopped in traffic we get rear ended...

my hat flew off my head into the back seat...it was a pretty solid hit.
She calls her insurance guy and explains what happened. He tells her to have her car checked by a place. We get there, the guy looks it over and explains she should have the chassis checked by a computer there...

The end.

MM xl subs should be here tomorrow.

thanks though, I honestly appreciate all the advice(especially the advice I agree with)

...a bent front axle? Sounds bad...could you get by without it?

:...

October 31st, 2011, 05:26 PM	#1
brought_pain Enthusiast Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Utah Posts: 701 iTrader: 0 reviews	Help with plan of attack I got an 83 mustang and would like some ideas/oppinions. I've taken the car to 3 places to have the chassis checked and all 3 say no signs of damage. No computer or measurements, just eyeballed. My plan is go through most of the car and fix it up. 5 lug conv., new motor, new trans, new diff, new interior, 91-93 fender, sub frame connectors, etc. This car is a daily driver. I was planning a back to front, bottom up approach. I feel a bit flustered thinking about where to begin now.

October 31st, 2011, 05:33 PM	#2
ryanw I Post Entirely Way Too Much 1991 Ford Mustang GT Join Date: May 2007 Location: San Diego, California Posts: 6,063 iTrader: 0 reviews	I'm not sure. But I'd do some research to make sure your wheels will still line up in the center of the wheel wells before you go spending money on the newer fenders. I'm guess you want 17in wheels ? __________________ DART 331ci stroker, AFR 185 heads, Trick Flow R intake, Accufab 70mm tb, 75mm pro m Maf, 30lb injectors, jba headers, 2 1/2" x pipe flowmaster super 10 mufflers, 255 fuel pump, 3:27 gears

October 31st, 2011, 05:36 PM	#3
ryanw I Post Entirely Way Too Much 1991 Ford Mustang GT Join Date: May 2007 Location: San Diego, California Posts: 6,063 iTrader: 0 reviews	Why did you have the sub frames checked out was it wrecked ? If you went through the effort of taking it to 3 different shops to have it looked at, why didn't you just take it to one place and have it checked on a frame machine ? __________________ DART 331ci stroker, AFR 185 heads, Trick Flow R intake, Accufab 70mm tb, 75mm pro m Maf, 30lb injectors, jba headers, 2 1/2" x pipe flowmaster super 10 mufflers, 255 fuel pump, 3:27 gears

October 31st, 2011, 11:08 PM	#5
horsepowerjunkie Hardcore Enthusiast 1989 Black LX---Turbo Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: just outside Minot, ND Posts: 1,153 iTrader: 0 reviews	Any body shop that's been doing business in the past 20 years should have a frame machine. It sounds like you took your car to shops with some lazy employee's. __________________ 89 LX Black, Boss 331, C4,T76BB, FAST EFI 82 Capri RS,89 5.0 HO,Comp XE266,TW 170,T5,etc. 73 Dart Sport 340, 410ci Bracket Brawler 72 Demon 340 4-speed 1 of 1667 01 Ram Quad Cab 03 Grizzley 660

November 1st, 2011, 01:07 AM	#6
Roadrashjr Regular 2001 True Blue Bullit Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 261 iTrader: 0 reviews	Yeah.. Make sure you take it somewhere reputable. Preferably if you know of a good mechanic around. I took my car to get my strut checked out and the guy at les schwab tried to convince me my front axle was bent.. lol __________________ 2001 Bullitt Currently Stock

October 31st, 2011, 05:46 PM	#4
brought_pain Enthusiast Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Utah Posts: 701 iTrader: 0 reviews	YEAH, different, bigger RIMS. Believe it or not I couldn't find anybody with a "frame machine"... I also seem to find the bend-you-over-sorts, so wether I'm not fixing stuff that ain't broke, or not paying for stuff I don't want/plan on upgrading, its been a bit of a hassle. I had the chassis checked because I don't want to strengthen a tweaked chassis...

November 1st, 2011, 06:56 AM	#7
EscortSportage Hardcore Enthusiast 1989 Mustang GT 5.0 Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: CT Posts: 2,186 iTrader: 0 reviews	To start: FL subframe connectors, grab an 8.8 out of a newer fox, grab hubs,spindles,brakes and axles from a 1994 or 1995 only mustang theres ur 5 lug and rear wheel disc setup, while ur under there call maximum motorsports and order the 5 stainless steel brake hoses. Very nice pieces i might add i just put em on myself, ur gonna need a bigger master cylinder and a brake proportion valve. They reps at mm will tell u all the stuff u need. Lower ctrl arms __________________ Cage Maximum Motorsports Sparco QH/BE Nitto "a huge bad azz motor is nice untill you have to turn or stop"

November 1st, 2011, 07:00 AM	#8
EscortSportage Hardcore Enthusiast 1989 Mustang GT 5.0 Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: CT Posts: 2,186 iTrader: 0 reviews	Lower torque box reinforcements. Junk your quad shocks Bump the timing up to 15 degrees Junk smog pump and charcoal canister __________________ Cage Maximum Motorsports Sparco QH/BE Nitto "a huge bad azz motor is nice untill you have to turn or stop"

November 6th, 2011, 02:33 PM	#9
brought_pain Enthusiast Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Utah Posts: 701 iTrader: 0 reviews	Driving it back from an alignment shop, it started losing power. Stopped at a light I see a puff of smoke come out. So I pull down a back street, lift the hood, and the engine is smoking and oozing black stuff out of the valve covers and intake manifold. ...fast forward past the waiting over 2hrs for a tow...... Mom asks me to drive her to get her vitamins...sure mom... Stopped in traffic we get rear ended... my hat flew off my head into the back seat...it was a pretty solid hit. She calls her insurance guy and explains what happened. He tells her to have her car checked by a place. We get there, the guy looks it over and explains she should have the chassis checked by a computer there... The end. MM xl subs should be here tomorrow. thanks though, I honestly appreciate all the advice(especially the advice I agree with) ...a bent front axle? Sounds bad...could you get by without it?:...

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