[93Fox5.0]

Ok guys so i am gunna be working my butt off this winter to put towards my car and i kinda need so help/suggestions. first off my car is a 93 lx converted to 5.0/ 5-speed. (its like a hybrid from hell -_-) with that said keep in mind that my rear end is 2.73 -_-... but anyway its almost stock with bbk shortys, flowmaster exhaust (not sure exactly what it is) a/c and smog pump delete, 1/2 inch intake spacer, and a cai. (cheap stuff) but my plan was to go with the trickflow top end kit, sell the intake it comes with, buy the better one and get all the supporting mods i need. i already got a trickflow 75mm tb i was thinking about getting a bbk fender cai, 24 or 30lb injectors, underdrive pulleys, fuel rails/pump, and anything else you guys can think of. so i just mainly want to see what you guys think. any suggestions or parts i will also need? pros/cons? please help and thanks

[DigitalDC89]

stock fuel rails are good until about 500hp, but youll definitely want a better pump. i would swap a set of 3.73 or 4.10s in the rear for sure though.

[69fastback]

Do gears before anything else.

[93Fox5.0]

i have really been trying to put off gears just because i want to find an empty 8.8 and totally build a rear end... but i also dont know how to correctly shim it and everything... but with that trick flow top end kit, is that a good kit? like i know there is a better intake i could get but what about heads? should i not get the kit and just get the best of the best separately? should i go stage 2 cam? clearance issues? some of many many quuestions...

[FastStang91Lx]

Best for what? What are you trying to do with the car? Be realistic with your goals and the amount of money you will be spending. If you are building a street car, the kit as sold is perfectly fine. There is so many things you are missing as far as supporting mods go. Work your butt off, aquire money, THEN tell us what you have for money to spend and ask what you should spend it on. On a situation like this, 'majority rules' is usually the best bet. And as already mentioned, gears should be your first performance mod, but not until you understand what gear ratio you should choose for yourself, AND WHY!

[horsepowerjunkie]

The Trick Flow kit is a very nice set up, you can get the kit with the street or track intake, your choice. I've used the track kit a couple times and have been very happy with the results. They were both on daily driver street cars so I didn't want anything very radical. Good choice IMO.

[93Fox5.0]

i guess as far as my goals for my car, i just want a nice fast street car that will run a killer time when i take it to the track. i want to be able to hold my own against most of the stuff out there. and i also like to make a list and try and plan out what i want and what i need so i can add up prices and map it all out and figure how long it will take me to get stuff. which is why i am asking in advance. i know gears is a great upgrade but i have another list for that made im just waiting on the right opportunity to come up. i want to go 4.10 (dont really care about gas mileage at this point) what other supporting mod do you think i should get? what am i missing? i was just trying to find out if that top end kit was good enough. because i really want the best of the best but i still want to be streetable.

[ryanw]

Tf 170 top end kit is vary nice but it's there entry level kit so it's not going to be the best of the best.... As you put it.

You can always piece that kit togeather using those heads, different cam and intake, if you get it used , and you may just save a few bucks. But all the power in the world doesn't mean any thing if you can't plant it to the ground.

[93Fox5.0]

yeah i know. its all a process and is all being planned out. like i said i have a list full of parts i want for a rear end build i also am planning out stuff i will need to beef up the suspension. the engine is just where i chose to start at for my build of hopefully a pretty nasty foxbody

[FastStang91Lx]

Having a plan is a good way to not buy shit twice, meaning buying a smaller/less adequate do-hicky when you will need the larger one later. Put it all down on paper so you don't forget, until it all becomes engrained in your head. Set yourself a rough hp goal and/or ET that you want to achieve. Then you can ask questions about what parts to buy to get you to your goal. And you're going to get many different opinions on how to get from point A to point B, and none may be wrong, but then you can research each option to see if it is the way you want to get there. As far as holding your own against MOST of the stuff out there, well I hate to break your bubble, but you are starting with older technology, most likely less horsepower, and not a lot of money. You can either save for everything in one shot per section of your car (suspension, motor, transmission), or you can just build as you go. Just don't expect miracles. The 5.0 is a potent beast if done right, but that usually involves lots of money. This is all of course assuming that since you are young and starting out, that you probably don't have much money. If you were born with a silver spoon, then just get mommy's credit card out and spend away, lolololol. Good luck and remember, a stupid question is only a question not asked OR one that someone gives you the ol' facepalm for.

[93Fox5.0]

i guess a rough hp goal would be around 400... i was going to try and stick with n/a because i dont want my motor to turn into a ticking time bomb if i add boost. but boost is still in the back of my mind... how much can a stock motor/internals handle? but i mainly was just looking for recommendation of parts that i should look into. right now i have about $1280 if that helps anyone. i was looking to buy the most expensive thing first like the top end kit then everything else after. i am young and dont have much money but whatever it takes and how ever long it takes i am will to put forth the effort and time

[69fastback]

SFCs, gears, TFS top end kit, 100 shot = low 11s all day long.



Gears first.

[ryanw]

Originally Posted by 93Fox5.0 i guess a rough hp goal would be around 400... i was going to try and stick with n/a because i dont want my motor to turn into a ticking time bomb if i add boost. but boost is still in the back of my mind... how much can a stock motor/internals handle? but i mainly was just looking for recommendation of parts that i should look into. right now i have about $1280 if that helps anyone. i was looking to buy the most expensive thing first like the top end kit then everything else after. i am young and dont have much money but whatever it takes and how ever long it takes i am will to put forth the effort and time

I get it lol......cuz i did the same thing, ha ha , i bought all the big dollar items first, and im still doing it im afraid. But its not really the best thing to do. But in my case my car gets driven once or twice a month now, but most other upgrades will be done before the car is really put through its paces. Were just trying to steer you in the right direction, cuz my way is not the best way...lol

Good luck

[FastStang91Lx]

SFC (Sub frame connectors) are a great starting point. You will get no increase in power, lol, but you get the piece of mind of tying the two ends of the unibody together and stiffening up the chassis and taking flex out. I recomment the full length Maximum Motorsports ones, as that is what I have in my car.

Then I would look at getting all my supporting mods in place. I would do underdrive pulleys, electric fan, and full exhaust. That'll wipe your budget out, but you won't benefit as much from the 'bigger parts' without some of these things already done. I personally would look for a longtube pain in the butt header, than use a shorty ever again. With longtubes you will obviously have to get a different mid pipe (the pipe with the cats on it), and depending on your state you may have to go hi-flow cat or maybe you can get away without them. You should upgrade the mid pipe and cat-back to 2 1/2 inch when you do this.

[93Fox5.0]

-Suspension List-
-Steeda Strut Tower Brace- $149.99
-Eibach Drag-Launch Springs- $269.99
-Maximum Motorsports Subframe Connectors- $169.99
-Prothane Total Bushing Kit- $209.99
-Eibach Shocks & Struts- $449.99
-Eibach Anti-Roll Sway Bar Kit- $299.99
do you guys think i should start with a suspension build? that is the list that i have accumulated. my suspension is pretty horrible as of now, i have terrible wheel hop and i really have to be careful. do you guys this i should start there with a few engine supporting mods (underdrive pulleys, better cai, and anything else you guys can think of?) i dont know, help me out! haha and work up to h/c/i? because i have been thinking and if i did hci right now i wouldnt even be able to launch the car without breaking something. so if i did suspension build and then a rear end build with 4.10s you think i would be able to run a good time?

[93Fox5.0]

both lists were formed from Mustang Parts & Performance - American Muscle
-8.8 Diff. List-
-Moser 8.8 Axels 31 spline 5 lug- $259.99
-SPEC Aluminum Flywheel- $334.99
-Ford Racing Aluminum Driveshaft 28 Spline- $274.99
-SPEC Stage 2 Clutch- $309.99
-Ford Racing 4.10 Gears- $139.99
- 8.8 Diff Cover- $149.99
-Ford Racing 31 Spline LSD- $244.99
- $1714.93

[93Fox5.0]

also for exhaust what should i look into? i want a really good exhaust either like magnaflow or mac or something. i have a dumped exhaust right now and i want to go full exhaust. but seeing how my car was a 4 cylinder i know that i will have to modify the brake lines... anyone have extra info on that? and also wont i need to change to gt spindles in the front?

[Lethal LX]

Originally Posted by 69fastback SFCs, gears, TFS top end kit, 100 shot = low 11s all day long. Gears first.

Solid advice.

[gripthenboost]

Hay all of that sounds great but what shape is your motor in now? Dont go crazy and you dont even have a good motor to build on. Will you be doing all this work yourself or having a shop do it for you?

[93Fox5.0]

i would like to say that my motor is is relatively good condition. i mean its not the prettiest but it pulls strong for not hanging much done to it at all. how else is there to tell? if worse comes to worse i will just transfer parts to a new one. and i will be doing all of the work myself