CAM help?

tyler97 · January 6th, 2012, 04:12 PM

I have a 306 with trick flow track heat 170cc heads, track heat intake and just about all the bolt ons my motor is out and my lifters are bad so am i going to replace them but its the perfect time to go ahead and change the cam. please dont say a tfs stage 1 thats what every one runs wih out much low end. im looking for a nice powerband with great drivability this will be a 90% street car. so it really needs to have good drivability and still pull hard. I need vaccum for A/C Full disc brakes etc. Im not sure maybe a AFM, comp, im not sure if you know of any cams with all the things listed let me know and if you have same set up dyno#s and track time would really be appreciated Thanks for any suggestions
Tyler

ALEXLOPEZ62188 · January 6th, 2012, 04:23 PM

Tfs1 cam is a great cam.
But if you want something better, I'd say an xe266hr would be a good cam for your combo.

69fastback · January 6th, 2012, 04:25 PM

Anderson n41.

horsepowerjunkie · January 6th, 2012, 06:30 PM

I have a stock 89 short block, Twisted Wedge 170,s, & Comp XE266HR, in my 82 Capri and it has outstanding drivabuility & low end power!

tyler97 · January 6th, 2012, 08:00 PM

yea i was thinkiing one of these before i posted both within 4 dollars so im not sure yet

baine21225 · January 8th, 2012, 05:32 PM

Call jay Allen at camshaft innovations. He can build you a custom cam to meet every detail you could want

69fastback · January 8th, 2012, 06:06 PM

Originally Posted by baine21225

Call jay Allen at camshaft innovations. He can build you a custom cam to meet every detail you could want

Jay Allen has been out of business for quite sometime now, for stealing peoples money, and being an overall douchebag. He was good in his day, but his day is done.

baine21225 · January 8th, 2012, 06:31 PM

I'll agree that he was by no means the most pleasant person to talk to, but when you are trying to run a business and 50% of your calls are something-teen year old kids who have big eyes and small pockets you should be able to see where that gets frustrating. Still, the same principal applies. You will get more out of a custom cam setup compared to an off the shelf setup every time, because it is tailored for YOUR setup. Find a reputable cam grinder and give them a call, you won't regret it.

69fastback · January 8th, 2012, 06:40 PM

Originally Posted by baine21225

I'll agree that he was by no means the most pleasant person to talk to, but when you are trying to run a business and 50% of your calls are something-teen year old kids who have big eyes and small pockets you should be able to see where that gets frustrating. Still, the same principal applies. You will get more out of a custom cam setup compared to an off the shelf setup every time, because it is tailored for YOUR setup. Find a reputable cam grinder and give them a call, you won't regret it.

I agree, but if you research Jays later years, it gets much farther than that. He went off the deep end.

69fastback · January 8th, 2012, 06:47 PM

Here you go. When you have a few hours, this makes for an interesting read.

Jay Allen "Camshaft Innovations" - Yellow Bullet Forums

StangBanger302 · January 8th, 2012, 07:39 PM

Lmao that thread is great. Read the whole thing a few months ago. I second the Anderson N41...,great cam for 300$. Also, keep in mind that a billet core cam from FTI is only 75$ more SHIPPED. I would do that personally. FlowTech induction- Ed Curtis.

69fastback · January 8th, 2012, 07:43 PM

Originally Posted by StangBanger302

Lmao that thread is great. Read the whole thing a few months ago. I second the Anderson N41...,great cam for 300$. Also, keep in mind that a billet core cam from FTI is only 75$ more SHIPPED. I would do that personally. FlowTech induction- Ed Curtis.

I was glued to yellowbullet for the whole timeframe that was going on...lol.

I agree a custom is better. Obviously that's why I have a Bullet cam in mine, but as mild as his build is, the n41 would do ok.

StangBanger302 · January 8th, 2012, 07:54 PM

Very true. N41 cam with stock gt40ps/explorer intake/4:10s and a little weight reduction netted 11.90s. Jay Allen ran (I believe) 11.40s with untouched gt40s and his own cam. I don't remember the rest of the combo, but his car was full weight with no gut.

baine21225 · January 9th, 2012, 08:03 PM

Originally Posted by 69fastback

I was glued to yellowbullet for the whole timeframe that was going on...lol.

I agree a custom is better. Obviously that's why I have a Bullet cam in mine, but as mild as his build is, the n41 would do ok.

Just read through that thread you linked....wow. How rings change so quickly.

Modular · February 20th, 2012, 01:45 PM

Originally Posted by StangBanger302

Very true. N41 cam with stock gt40ps/explorer intake/4:10s and a little weight reduction netted 11.90s. Jay Allen ran (I believe) 11.40s with untouched gt40s and his own cam. I don't remember the rest of the combo, but his car was full weight with no gut.

He never ran that - it was a lie, like the parts and information he sold to his nutswingers.

He was a SCAMmaster, not a cammaster. He had a computer program that would calculate his camshaft dimensions, then he would send that to Comp for a "custom" grind.

fogged306 · February 20th, 2012, 02:28 PM

Originally Posted by Modular

He had a computer program that would calculate his camshaft dimensions, then he would send that to Comp for a "custom" grind.

Not that I'm defending jay, but a lot of cam guys do the same. Not a whole lot of custom cam places actually grind in house.

ryanw · February 20th, 2012, 03:51 PM

I agree with fogged

My custom cam was from AD performance but comp cams ground it

Modular · February 20th, 2012, 04:21 PM

Originally Posted by fogged306

Not that I'm defending jay, but a lot of cam guys do the same. Not a whole lot of custom cam places actually grind in house.

100% true. However, he didn't know as much as he led on and sold a bunch of inferior parts to unsuspecting victims, all in the name of greed. He got his results from a computer, but didn't know the TRUE reason for it, just made off like he did. From the looks of it, he had/has a narcissistic personality disorder (NPD) - look it up.

FYI - I had my dealings with him, so I don't speak from hear-say.

ryanw · February 20th, 2012, 04:34 PM

Originally Posted by Modular

100% true. However, he didn't know as much as he led on and sold a bunch of inferior parts to unsuspecting victims, all in the name of greed. He got his results from a computer, but didn't know the TRUE reason for it, just made off like he did. From the looks of it, he had/has a narcissistic personality disorder (NPD) - look it up.

FYI - I had my dealings with him, so I don't speak from hear-say.

I read a really long thread over on corral about that guy, it was funny at the start of the thread, every one but one or two guys loved him, and were sticking up for him, but by the end of the thread you could see how big of a scam artist he was.

Modular · February 20th, 2012, 04:44 PM

Originally Posted by fogged306

Not that I'm defending jay, but a lot of cam guys do the same. Not a whole lot of custom cam places actually grind in house.

Since you asked on the YB, you need to go with Ed Curtis.

Forget that old "SADI" talk from Jay - just more BS, so he could make more profit. I have run both "SADI" and Billet - loved them both and couldn't tell a lick of a difference. He also liked Billet because it gave him more leverage in using a stiffer spring, because he did not understand the valvetrain. He would take Comp's recommendation, after he sent them the printout.

Also, freezy is not a bad guy to go with (he posted in your "what cam should I go with" thread.

January 6th, 2012, 04:12 PM	#1
tyler97 Regular 1991 gt cobra clone Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: FL Posts: 374 iTrader: 0 reviews	CAM help? I have a 306 with trick flow track heat 170cc heads, track heat intake and just about all the bolt ons my motor is out and my lifters are bad so am i going to replace them but its the perfect time to go ahead and change the cam. please dont say a tfs stage 1 thats what every one runs wih out much low end. im looking for a nice powerband with great drivability this will be a 90% street car. so it really needs to have good drivability and still pull hard. I need vaccum for A/C Full disc brakes etc. Im not sure maybe a AFM, comp, im not sure if you know of any cams with all the things listed let me know and if you have same set up dyno#s and track time would really be appreciated Thanks for any suggestions Tyler __________________ 1991 GT- Ripped torque boxes/no SFCs/306/24lb injectors/Twisted Wedge 170s/Full exhaust/Full bolt ons/X3Z computer Buid thread http://www.moddedmustangs.com/forums...ld-thread.html

January 6th, 2012, 04:23 PM	#2
ALEXLOPEZ62188 Mustang Fanatic 1989 Mustang LX Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Apple Valley, CA Posts: 409 iTrader: 0 reviews	Tfs1 cam is a great cam. But if you want something better, I'd say an xe266hr would be a good cam for your combo. __________________ 89 Mustang LX: 347 AFR Comp Cam TFS Track Heat 359rwhp 395rwtq

January 6th, 2012, 04:25 PM	#3
69fastback Premium Member 1969 Mustang Mach 1 6.824@101.61 Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Oklahoma jackass, get to driving Posts: 5,565 iTrader: 0 reviews	Anderson n41. __________________ ./___ _ ____ ___ \. ( ]]] _ _ O _ _ [[[ ) \_ o _ _____ _ o _/ \|___\| ......... \|___\| http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HyYU3...e_gdata_player

January 6th, 2012, 06:30 PM	#4
horsepowerjunkie Hardcore Enthusiast 1989 Black LX---Turbo Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: just outside Minot, ND Posts: 1,153 iTrader: 0 reviews	I have a stock 89 short block, Twisted Wedge 170,s, & Comp XE266HR, in my 82 Capri and it has outstanding drivabuility & low end power! __________________ 89 LX Black, Boss 331, C4,T76BB, FAST EFI 82 Capri RS,89 5.0 HO,Comp XE266,TW 170,T5,etc. 73 Dart Sport 340, 410ci Bracket Brawler 72 Demon 340 4-speed 1 of 1667 01 Ram Quad Cab 03 Grizzley 660

January 6th, 2012, 08:00 PM	#5
tyler97 Regular 1991 gt cobra clone Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: FL Posts: 374 iTrader: 0 reviews	yea i was thinkiing one of these before i posted both within 4 dollars so im not sure yet __________________ 1991 GT- Ripped torque boxes/no SFCs/306/24lb injectors/Twisted Wedge 170s/Full exhaust/Full bolt ons/X3Z computer Buid thread http://www.moddedmustangs.com/forums...ld-thread.html

January 8th, 2012, 05:32 PM	#6
baine21225 MM Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 4,349 iTrader: 1 reviews	Call jay Allen at camshaft innovations. He can build you a custom cam to meet every detail you could want __________________ "That's how Dad did it, that's how America does it... and it's worked out pretty well so far..."

January 8th, 2012, 06:31 PM	#8
baine21225 MM Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 4,349 iTrader: 1 reviews	I'll agree that he was by no means the most pleasant person to talk to, but when you are trying to run a business and 50% of your calls are something-teen year old kids who have big eyes and small pockets you should be able to see where that gets frustrating. Still, the same principal applies. You will get more out of a custom cam setup compared to an off the shelf setup every time, because it is tailored for YOUR setup. Find a reputable cam grinder and give them a call, you won't regret it. __________________ "That's how Dad did it, that's how America does it... and it's worked out pretty well so far..."

January 8th, 2012, 06:47 PM	#10
69fastback Premium Member 1969 Mustang Mach 1 6.824@101.61 Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Oklahoma jackass, get to driving Posts: 5,565 iTrader: 0 reviews	Here you go. When you have a few hours, this makes for an interesting read. Jay Allen "Camshaft Innovations" - Yellow Bullet Forums __________________ ./___ _ ____ ___ \. ( ]]] _ _ O _ _ [[[ ) \_ o _ _____ _ o _/ \|___\| ......... \|___\| http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HyYU3...e_gdata_player

January 8th, 2012, 07:39 PM	#11
StangBanger302 Hardcore Enthusiast 1992 Mustang LX 13.0 @ 105 Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: New York Posts: 2,230 iTrader: 0 reviews	Lmao that thread is great. Read the whole thing a few months ago. I second the Anderson N41...,great cam for 300$. Also, keep in mind that a billet core cam from FTI is only 75$ more SHIPPED. I would do that personally. FlowTech induction- Ed Curtis. __________________ As I lay rubber down the street I pray for traction I can keep But if I spin, and begin to slide Please dear God, protect my ride

January 8th, 2012, 07:54 PM	#13
StangBanger302 Hardcore Enthusiast 1992 Mustang LX 13.0 @ 105 Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: New York Posts: 2,230 iTrader: 0 reviews	Very true. N41 cam with stock gt40ps/explorer intake/4:10s and a little weight reduction netted 11.90s. Jay Allen ran (I believe) 11.40s with untouched gt40s and his own cam. I don't remember the rest of the combo, but his car was full weight with no gut. __________________ As I lay rubber down the street I pray for traction I can keep But if I spin, and begin to slide Please dear God, protect my ride

February 20th, 2012, 03:51 PM	#17
ryanw I Post Entirely Way Too Much 1991 Ford Mustang GT Join Date: May 2007 Location: San Diego, California Posts: 6,063 iTrader: 0 reviews	I agree with fogged My custom cam was from AD performance but comp cams ground it __________________ DART 331ci stroker, AFR 185 heads, Trick Flow R intake, Accufab 70mm tb, 75mm pro m Maf, 30lb injectors, jba headers, 2 1/2" x pipe flowmaster super 10 mufflers, 255 fuel pump, 3:27 gears

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