Starter Cranks All The Time

428CJ · January 6th, 2012, 06:58 PM

One day i was just driving my car, stopped at a store and shut if off, started it again and the starter was cranking even after the engine had started. I shut the car off and it kept cranking. I got it home by removing the starter cable from the starter solenoid. Then i replaced the starter solenoid and all was well ... for 3 days. Then it started cranking all the time once again. I replaced the ignition switch and it still does it. Could the solenoid i bought be bad or is it my starter ( i'm going to replace anyway)? Anyone ever have this problem?

Sorry for the novel btw, lol

ryanw · January 6th, 2012, 07:32 PM

ive had a brand new solenoid go bad right out of the box. , next time that happens pull the little red wire with blue strip off the soenoid. its the one on the center post, thats what pulls the coil in on the solenoid, allowing for power to make across to the starter cable. if the starter turns off then id say its your ignition, if it doesnt turn off then id say its the solenoid

the starter will only crank if its getting power...

428CJ · January 6th, 2012, 07:50 PM

Removing that Wire doesn't solve it. Thats what confuses me, why is it getting power at all times. Could the solenoid have been fried by starting the car by touching the starter cable to the solenoid and then removing it once it fired (did that to get it home after the prob. started the second time).

ryanw · January 6th, 2012, 07:52 PM

did you disconect the battery when you changed it out ? any ways if you didnt , do it next time...take the solenoid back get a new one or a higher quality one.

fogged306 · January 6th, 2012, 07:55 PM

No that won't fry the solenoid because all you did was send 12v to the trigger wire that normally sees 12v when you go to crank anyway.

But I do think the solenoid is fried from what you've described. If you pull the trigger wire off the solenoid and it keeps cranking, then it's failed to the closed position internally. It may just be a bad one out of the box, or you may have an issue that's burning them out. Or you have something wired wrong in the car. Do you have anything else connected to the output side of the solenoid other than the starter motor?

428CJ · January 6th, 2012, 08:07 PM

I'm gonna buy anther solenoid tomorrow. I haven't rewired anything on my car but it deff has electrical problems (left blinker doesn't work w/ lights on, car gets hotter when lights are turned on, etc.). Their is nothing else on the starter cable side of the solenoid either. I'm kind of confused as to why the new solenoid worker for 3 days, then failed.

ryanw · January 6th, 2012, 08:11 PM

cuz there made in CHINA

428CJ · January 6th, 2012, 08:12 PM

Originally Posted by ryanw

did you disconect the battery when you changed it out ? any ways if you didnt , do it next time...take the solenoid back get a new one or a higher quality one.

yeah, i have had the battery disconnected (neg. cable off) for 2 days and it still cranks if you hook the cable up.

ryanw · January 6th, 2012, 08:13 PM

No, what i mean is when you replace the solenoid, dont do it live

428CJ · January 6th, 2012, 08:13 PM

Originally Posted by ryanw

cuz there made in CHINA

Ya, i guess that makes sense, lol.

428CJ · January 6th, 2012, 08:26 PM

Originally Posted by ryanw

No, what i mean is when you replace the solenoid, dont do it live

Okay, the battery was disconnected when i replaced the solenoid.

428CJ · January 8th, 2012, 07:32 PM

I replaced the solenoid and its running good. Hopefully this one lasts more than three days, lol.

ryanw · January 8th, 2012, 08:14 PM

Update us wednesday

mylastburnout · January 8th, 2012, 08:55 PM

i had an 87 gt that did that all the time. id take the battery cable to stop it and if i put it back on itd still wanna crank. the only to stop it was take all the wires off the noid, and then put back together then itd start normal. i never figured it out i just ended up getting rid of the car. it was becoming a money pit. but good luck on yours

Notcho · January 9th, 2012, 02:07 AM

Mine did that once. I went to the liquor store to get some booze, and when I was ready to leave, I cranked it up, and the starter kept running after it fired up. I turned the key off and the starter still kept cranking.

So, I put it in neutral and let the clutch out, popped the hood, grabbed the big ass wrench I carry under my seat (for mechanical issues, of course

) and whacked the starter relay a few times with it. It stopped cranking. I replaced it with a new starter relay, and I never had another issue.

January 6th, 2012, 06:58 PM	#1
428CJ Regular Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Boise, Id Posts: 142 iTrader: 0 reviews	Starter Cranks All The Time One day i was just driving my car, stopped at a store and shut if off, started it again and the starter was cranking even after the engine had started. I shut the car off and it kept cranking. I got it home by removing the starter cable from the starter solenoid. Then i replaced the starter solenoid and all was well ... for 3 days. Then it started cranking all the time once again. I replaced the ignition switch and it still does it. Could the solenoid i bought be bad or is it my starter ( i'm going to replace anyway)? Anyone ever have this problem? Sorry for the novel btw, lol __________________ 1988 Mustang: 5 speed, hurst shifter, plenty slow.

January 6th, 2012, 07:32 PM	#2
ryanw I Post Entirely Way Too Much 1991 Ford Mustang GT Join Date: May 2007 Location: San Diego, California Posts: 6,063 iTrader: 0 reviews	ive had a brand new solenoid go bad right out of the box. , next time that happens pull the little red wire with blue strip off the soenoid. its the one on the center post, thats what pulls the coil in on the solenoid, allowing for power to make across to the starter cable. if the starter turns off then id say its your ignition, if it doesnt turn off then id say its the solenoid the starter will only crank if its getting power... __________________ DART 331ci stroker, AFR 185 heads, Trick Flow R intake, Accufab 70mm tb, 75mm pro m Maf, 30lb injectors, jba headers, 2 1/2" x pipe flowmaster super 10 mufflers, 255 fuel pump, 3:27 gears

January 6th, 2012, 07:50 PM	#3
428CJ Regular Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Boise, Id Posts: 142 iTrader: 0 reviews	Removing that Wire doesn't solve it. Thats what confuses me, why is it getting power at all times. Could the solenoid have been fried by starting the car by touching the starter cable to the solenoid and then removing it once it fired (did that to get it home after the prob. started the second time). __________________ 1988 Mustang: 5 speed, hurst shifter, plenty slow.

January 6th, 2012, 07:52 PM	#4
ryanw I Post Entirely Way Too Much 1991 Ford Mustang GT Join Date: May 2007 Location: San Diego, California Posts: 6,063 iTrader: 0 reviews	did you disconect the battery when you changed it out ? any ways if you didnt , do it next time...take the solenoid back get a new one or a higher quality one. __________________ DART 331ci stroker, AFR 185 heads, Trick Flow R intake, Accufab 70mm tb, 75mm pro m Maf, 30lb injectors, jba headers, 2 1/2" x pipe flowmaster super 10 mufflers, 255 fuel pump, 3:27 gears

January 6th, 2012, 08:07 PM	#6
428CJ Regular Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Boise, Id Posts: 142 iTrader: 0 reviews	I'm gonna buy anther solenoid tomorrow. I haven't rewired anything on my car but it deff has electrical problems (left blinker doesn't work w/ lights on, car gets hotter when lights are turned on, etc.). Their is nothing else on the starter cable side of the solenoid either. I'm kind of confused as to why the new solenoid worker for 3 days, then failed. __________________ 1988 Mustang: 5 speed, hurst shifter, plenty slow.

January 6th, 2012, 07:55 PM	#5
fogged306 MM Fanatic 89 GT Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: NY Posts: 4,875 iTrader: 2 reviews	No that won't fry the solenoid because all you did was send 12v to the trigger wire that normally sees 12v when you go to crank anyway. But I do think the solenoid is fried from what you've described. If you pull the trigger wire off the solenoid and it keeps cranking, then it's failed to the closed position internally. It may just be a bad one out of the box, or you may have an issue that's burning them out. Or you have something wired wrong in the car. Do you have anything else connected to the output side of the solenoid other than the starter motor?

January 6th, 2012, 08:11 PM	#7
ryanw I Post Entirely Way Too Much 1991 Ford Mustang GT Join Date: May 2007 Location: San Diego, California Posts: 6,063 iTrader: 0 reviews	cuz there made in CHINA __________________ DART 331ci stroker, AFR 185 heads, Trick Flow R intake, Accufab 70mm tb, 75mm pro m Maf, 30lb injectors, jba headers, 2 1/2" x pipe flowmaster super 10 mufflers, 255 fuel pump, 3:27 gears

January 6th, 2012, 08:13 PM	#9
ryanw I Post Entirely Way Too Much 1991 Ford Mustang GT Join Date: May 2007 Location: San Diego, California Posts: 6,063 iTrader: 0 reviews	No, what i mean is when you replace the solenoid, dont do it live __________________ DART 331ci stroker, AFR 185 heads, Trick Flow R intake, Accufab 70mm tb, 75mm pro m Maf, 30lb injectors, jba headers, 2 1/2" x pipe flowmaster super 10 mufflers, 255 fuel pump, 3:27 gears

January 8th, 2012, 07:32 PM	#12
428CJ Regular Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Boise, Id Posts: 142 iTrader: 0 reviews	I replaced the solenoid and its running good. Hopefully this one lasts more than three days, lol. __________________ 1988 Mustang: 5 speed, hurst shifter, plenty slow.

January 8th, 2012, 08:14 PM	#13
ryanw I Post Entirely Way Too Much 1991 Ford Mustang GT Join Date: May 2007 Location: San Diego, California Posts: 6,063 iTrader: 0 reviews	Update us wednesday __________________ DART 331ci stroker, AFR 185 heads, Trick Flow R intake, Accufab 70mm tb, 75mm pro m Maf, 30lb injectors, jba headers, 2 1/2" x pipe flowmaster super 10 mufflers, 255 fuel pump, 3:27 gears

January 8th, 2012, 08:55 PM	#14
mylastburnout Newbie Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 2 iTrader: 0 reviews	i had an 87 gt that did that all the time. id take the battery cable to stop it and if i put it back on itd still wanna crank. the only to stop it was take all the wires off the noid, and then put back together then itd start normal. i never figured it out i just ended up getting rid of the car. it was becoming a money pit. but good luck on yours

January 9th, 2012, 02:07 AM	#15
Notcho meh ======== Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: New Braunfels, Tex / Seguin, Tex Posts: 5,184 iTrader: 0 reviews	Mine did that once. I went to the liquor store to get some booze, and when I was ready to leave, I cranked it up, and the starter kept running after it fired up. I turned the key off and the starter still kept cranking. So, I put it in neutral and let the clutch out, popped the hood, grabbed the big ass wrench I carry under my seat (for mechanical issues, of course ) and whacked the starter relay a few times with it. It stopped cranking. I replaced it with a new starter relay, and I never had another issue. __________________ '87 2.3 Notch with +4 cylinder mod Ass, Cash, or Grass.. nobody rides for free Black Stang Crew Member #11

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