engine problems?

B.A.M302 · June 4th, 2007, 11:42 PM

My 87 306 was just rebuilt and I started it up to find my car is running really sluggish and pinging bad. So I removed my new MSD dizzy and put the stock one back in and it ran fine until the headers started glowing red. I need advice bad and really just want it to run. Can any one tell me why my headers are glowing red? And why my MSD dizzy thats new dont work with my engine? Any help is apperciated thanks

ScratchinFerTraction · June 5th, 2007, 12:05 AM

I would say the headers glowing are from timing too retarded. The MSD unit not working I have no idea.
Stan

B.A.M302 · June 5th, 2007, 12:10 AM

I have the timing set at 10 degrees before TDC and even tried 12 I've been told that im running to lean. But how do I get more fuel to the cylinder's? I already have #30 injectors.

Stangzilla · June 5th, 2007, 01:00 AM

Originally Posted by B.A.M302

I have the timing set at 10 degrees before TDC and even tried 12 I've been told that im running to lean. But how do I get more fuel to the cylinder's? I already have #30 injectors.

What makes you think getting more fuel is gonna help? With 30lb injectors and fuel pressure set to 35-40psi you are gettin plenty of fuel.. Usually like stated b4 glowing headers could be ignition or timing.. I doubt its a fuel issue.. Do you have an aftermarket balancer? Are the marks correct? Timing pointer correct or bent.. I really think its timing.. Also a extrememly lean fuel condition can cause it but that usually is with supercharged or turbo cars, but like I said as long as all your injectors and computer are working right and your fuel pressure is good I still am going with timing.. But those are the two main things that will cause that.

fogged306 · June 5th, 2007, 03:35 AM

If they are glowing when the car is idling it usually means too much fuel. The unburnt fuel is still igniting in the headers, causing them to glow. If they don't start glowing until you are driving it is means a lean condition.

B.A.M302 · June 5th, 2007, 08:58 AM

The balancer is stock and i guess I'll play around with the timing a little bit more and advance it more. I'll give more input after I do that. Thanks for the advice.

B.A.M302 · June 5th, 2007, 09:36 AM

O and one more question can engine paint on the headers cause the red glowing as well. My friend painted them when I was doing something else and got pissed but they look nice.

fogged306 · June 5th, 2007, 01:27 PM

I would say probably not. A friend of mine put high temp engine paint on the manifold on his Toyota and never had a problem.

June 4th, 2007, 11:42 PM	#1
B.A.M302 Regular Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: maryland Posts: 89 iTrader: 0 reviews	engine problems? My 87 306 was just rebuilt and I started it up to find my car is running really sluggish and pinging bad. So I removed my new MSD dizzy and put the stock one back in and it ran fine until the headers started glowing red. I need advice bad and really just want it to run. Can any one tell me why my headers are glowing red? And why my MSD dizzy thats new dont work with my engine? Any help is apperciated thanks __________________ Crate 302, Trick Flow Intake R, 75mm MAF, bbk 75mm throttle body, bbk 76mm EGR spacer, 351 Winsor heads ported and polished by Bennet Racing, Lunati cam, 30 pd. Injectors, TKO 500, aluminum drive shaft, bbk mid length headers, bbk off road H pipe, 3:55,

June 5th, 2007, 08:58 AM	#6
B.A.M302 Regular Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: maryland Posts: 89 iTrader: 0 reviews	The balancer is stock and i guess I'll play around with the timing a little bit more and advance it more. I'll give more input after I do that. Thanks for the advice. __________________ Crate 302, Trick Flow Intake R, 75mm MAF, bbk 75mm throttle body, bbk 76mm EGR spacer, 351 Winsor heads ported and polished by Bennet Racing, Lunati cam, 30 pd. Injectors, TKO 500, aluminum drive shaft, bbk mid length headers, bbk off road H pipe, 3:55,

June 5th, 2007, 09:36 AM	#7
B.A.M302 Regular Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: maryland Posts: 89 iTrader: 0 reviews	O and one more question can engine paint on the headers cause the red glowing as well. My friend painted them when I was doing something else and got pissed but they look nice. __________________ Crate 302, Trick Flow Intake R, 75mm MAF, bbk 75mm throttle body, bbk 76mm EGR spacer, 351 Winsor heads ported and polished by Bennet Racing, Lunati cam, 30 pd. Injectors, TKO 500, aluminum drive shaft, bbk mid length headers, bbk off road H pipe, 3:55,

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June 5th, 2007, 12:05 AM	#2
ScratchinFerTraction Newbie Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 41 iTrader: 0 reviews	I would say the headers glowing are from timing too retarded. The MSD unit not working I have no idea. Stan

June 5th, 2007, 12:10 AM	#3
B.A.M302 Regular Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: maryland Posts: 89 iTrader: 0 reviews	I have the timing set at 10 degrees before TDC and even tried 12 I've been told that im running to lean. But how do I get more fuel to the cylinder's? I already have #30 injectors. __________________ Crate 302, Trick Flow Intake R, 75mm MAF, bbk 75mm throttle body, bbk 76mm EGR spacer, 351 Winsor heads ported and polished by Bennet Racing, Lunati cam, 30 pd. Injectors, TKO 500, aluminum drive shaft, bbk mid length headers, bbk off road H pipe, 3:55,

June 5th, 2007, 03:35 AM	#5
fogged306 MM Fanatic 89 GT Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: NY Posts: 4,666 iTrader: 1 reviews	If they are glowing when the car is idling it usually means too much fuel. The unburnt fuel is still igniting in the headers, causing them to glow. If they don't start glowing until you are driving it is means a lean condition.

June 5th, 2007, 01:27 PM	#8
fogged306 MM Fanatic 89 GT Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: NY Posts: 4,666 iTrader: 1 reviews	I would say probably not. A friend of mine put high temp engine paint on the manifold on his Toyota and never had a problem.

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