Guesses and input?

StangBanger302 · January 9th, 2012, 06:46 PM

What's up guys. I have the mods listed in my sig and I'm planning on upgrading a bit. Here's a little run down of my logic....

Stock bottom end 302
untouched gt40 heads
explorer intake
19# injectors
Anderson N41 cam
1 5/8 headers/ 2.5 inch exhaust
4:10 gears
2900lb race weight ----> 11.9 @ 109

Stock bottom end 302
untouched TFS170
Trickflow stage one cam
edelbrock Victor 5.0 efi intake
24# injectors
Same exhaust as above
3:73 gears
3000 lb race weight-----> 11.5 @ 115

Stock bottom end 302 W/ rod bolts and new rings
ported Edelbrock 5.0 performers (1.90/1.60) with a valvejob
port matched super-victor efi intake
custom HR cam
1 3/4 headers with full 3 inch exhaust
4:30 gears
2900lb race weight----> YOU GUESS ET AND TRAP

I want some input on what you think the last combo will run on motor, and a 200 shot. Assume traction is there and the air is good. I put the other combos there for a perspective on what parts do well.

gripthenboost · January 9th, 2012, 07:41 PM

dare to say low 11s But you have to pull of crazy 60 foot. Do you have a tranny setup in mind and plans to stiffen the body? I have way more into my motor and can barely muster into the 11s. My best time was 12.5xx @115 with street tires on my supercharged setup.

StangBanger302 · January 9th, 2012, 08:37 PM

Low elevens WITH the 200 shot? And yeah, I'm getting a 6 point cage, full length custom weld in subframe connectors, V8 springs and 90/10 struts/shocks. Transmission is gonna be a Tremec 3550 with a clutch my Tranny Guy suggests. I'm hoping for 460rwhp on spray. I know dyno numbers don't matter, but I'm looking for decent numbers regardless.

69fastback · January 9th, 2012, 08:59 PM

How well are those heads going to be ported? Kind of seems like a lot of intake for performer heads. With the right cam, and slicks, it'll go 10s pretty easily.

gripthenboost · January 9th, 2012, 09:37 PM

Ya now that you add all that in i see can see 10s. Im interested in puttin on some slick and seeing what my car can really do. I baby it too much. Tremic t56 and spec 3 stage 3 clutch and a built rear should hold up to a 6k launch. If not i got AAA. LOL

StangBanger302 · January 9th, 2012, 11:57 PM

Originally Posted by 69fastback

How well are those heads going to be ported? Kind of seems like a lot of intake for performer heads. With the right cam, and slicks, it'll go 10s pretty easily.

The heads are going to be done right...I hate flow numbers but I wanna see something like 250cfms out of them. Even then, they flow good for a 302 spinning to 7K. I'm hoping lower tens like 10.50s or 10.40s.

StangBanger302 · January 10th, 2012, 12:08 PM

These heads have the potential to flow 300cfms, just not with the 1.90/1.60 valves, which I'm keeping. I don't feel like getting new pistons. I might have to notch them for my cam anyway. I'm hoping for lower 400s on motor. 420-430hp the the flywheel would be nice.

69fastback · January 10th, 2012, 12:10 PM

I saw article on an excellent way to notch your pistons yourself. Let me see if I can find it.

69fastback · January 10th, 2012, 12:22 PM

Found it....

Another Technique for Piston Notching. - Ford Muscle Forums : Ford Muscle Cars Tech Forum

ryanw · January 10th, 2012, 01:41 PM

Nice wright up

StangBanger302 · January 10th, 2012, 04:23 PM

Indeed, I've seen that once before. I would most likely just take the motor to a machine shop because I've never tried anything like that before, nevermind fucking with my bottom end.

ryanw · January 10th, 2012, 04:30 PM

Originally Posted by StangBanger302

Indeed, I've seen that once before. I would most likely just take the motor to a machine shop because I've never tried anything like that before, nevermind fucking with my bottom end.

Im with you on that one... it wouldnt be so bad if you had an old junk motor to play around on, and try new things, (first time attemps and such)but id wouldnt want to do that to an engine i was going to use.....lol

StangBanger302 · January 17th, 2012, 05:24 PM

Anyone else have guesses for this combo? I'm gonna hit it with a 225 shot now. I'm really hoping for 11.40s-11.30s N/A and then add a 225 shot. Ultimate goal is to go 10.30s but the 225 shot MAY nudge it into the high 9s if I lighten her up some more.

StangBanger302 · January 19th, 2012, 12:27 PM

Bump

ryanw · January 19th, 2012, 01:07 PM

I would guess, but since ive never ran at a track or even know what my own cars, eta, or horse power is, id have no clue, and id sound like a dumb ass that doesnt know what hes talking about.....lol

StangBanger302 · January 19th, 2012, 01:14 PM

Lol, I hear ya. That's why I laid out other basic combos before I wrote mine out so people can compare part to part.

FastStang91Lx · January 19th, 2012, 08:09 PM

I'd shit myself if you hit a 11.40 N/A. I don't see it. You'd be lucky as hell to hit a 11.80
That's my guess, sorry.

gripthenboost · January 19th, 2012, 09:32 PM

Originally Posted by FastStang91Lx

I'd shit myself if you hit a 11.40 N/A. I don't see it. You'd be lucky as hell to hit a 11.80
That's my guess, sorry.

11.4 possible on a windy day and good track bite.......

StangBanger302 · January 20th, 2012, 05:11 AM

Originally Posted by FastStang91Lx

I'd shit myself if you hit a 11.40 N/A. I don't see it. You'd be lucky as hell to hit a 11.80
That's my guess, sorry.

Really? Stank hit 11.9 with stock iron gt40s off the shelf cam and explorer intake....figured my setup would be a LITTLE better. People have went 11.50s with ots shit.

January 9th, 2012, 06:46 PM	#1
StangBanger302 Hardcore Enthusiast 1992 Mustang LX 13.0 @ 105 Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: New York Posts: 2,230 iTrader: 0 reviews	Guesses and input? What's up guys. I have the mods listed in my sig and I'm planning on upgrading a bit. Here's a little run down of my logic.... Stock bottom end 302 untouched gt40 heads explorer intake 19# injectors Anderson N41 cam 1 5/8 headers/ 2.5 inch exhaust 4:10 gears 2900lb race weight ----> 11.9 @ 109 Stock bottom end 302 untouched TFS170 Trickflow stage one cam edelbrock Victor 5.0 efi intake 24# injectors Same exhaust as above 3:73 gears 3000 lb race weight-----> 11.5 @ 115 Stock bottom end 302 W/ rod bolts and new rings ported Edelbrock 5.0 performers (1.90/1.60) with a valvejob port matched super-victor efi intake custom HR cam 1 3/4 headers with full 3 inch exhaust 4:30 gears 2900lb race weight----> YOU GUESS ET AND TRAP I want some input on what you think the last combo will run on motor, and a 200 shot. Assume traction is there and the air is good. I put the other combos there for a perspective on what parts do well. __________________ As I lay rubber down the street I pray for traction I can keep But if I spin, and begin to slide Please dear God, protect my ride

January 9th, 2012, 07:41 PM	#2
gripthenboost Hardcore Enthusiast 91 Mustang GT 1991 sliver GT Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: New York Posts: 1,213 iTrader: 0 reviews	dare to say low 11s But you have to pull of crazy 60 foot. Do you have a tranny setup in mind and plans to stiffen the body? I have way more into my motor and can barely muster into the 11s. My best time was 12.5xx @115 with street tires on my supercharged setup. __________________

January 9th, 2012, 08:37 PM	#3
StangBanger302 Hardcore Enthusiast 1992 Mustang LX 13.0 @ 105 Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: New York Posts: 2,230 iTrader: 0 reviews	Low elevens WITH the 200 shot? And yeah, I'm getting a 6 point cage, full length custom weld in subframe connectors, V8 springs and 90/10 struts/shocks. Transmission is gonna be a Tremec 3550 with a clutch my Tranny Guy suggests. I'm hoping for 460rwhp on spray. I know dyno numbers don't matter, but I'm looking for decent numbers regardless. __________________ As I lay rubber down the street I pray for traction I can keep But if I spin, and begin to slide Please dear God, protect my ride

January 9th, 2012, 08:59 PM	#4
69fastback Premium Member 1969 Mustang Mach 1 6.824@101.61 Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Oklahoma jackass, get to driving Posts: 5,565 iTrader: 0 reviews	How well are those heads going to be ported? Kind of seems like a lot of intake for performer heads. With the right cam, and slicks, it'll go 10s pretty easily. __________________ ./___ _ ____ ___ \. ( ]]] _ _ O _ _ [[[ ) \_ o _ _____ _ o _/ \|___\| ......... \|___\| http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HyYU3...e_gdata_player

January 9th, 2012, 09:37 PM	#5
gripthenboost Hardcore Enthusiast 91 Mustang GT 1991 sliver GT Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: New York Posts: 1,213 iTrader: 0 reviews	Ya now that you add all that in i see can see 10s. Im interested in puttin on some slick and seeing what my car can really do. I baby it too much. Tremic t56 and spec 3 stage 3 clutch and a built rear should hold up to a 6k launch. If not i got AAA. LOL __________________

January 10th, 2012, 12:08 PM	#7
StangBanger302 Hardcore Enthusiast 1992 Mustang LX 13.0 @ 105 Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: New York Posts: 2,230 iTrader: 0 reviews	These heads have the potential to flow 300cfms, just not with the 1.90/1.60 valves, which I'm keeping. I don't feel like getting new pistons. I might have to notch them for my cam anyway. I'm hoping for lower 400s on motor. 420-430hp the the flywheel would be nice. __________________ As I lay rubber down the street I pray for traction I can keep But if I spin, and begin to slide Please dear God, protect my ride

January 10th, 2012, 12:10 PM	#8
69fastback Premium Member 1969 Mustang Mach 1 6.824@101.61 Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Oklahoma jackass, get to driving Posts: 5,565 iTrader: 0 reviews	I saw article on an excellent way to notch your pistons yourself. Let me see if I can find it. __________________ ./___ _ ____ ___ \. ( ]]] _ _ O _ _ [[[ ) \_ o _ _____ _ o _/ \|___\| ......... \|___\| http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HyYU3...e_gdata_player

January 10th, 2012, 12:22 PM	#9
69fastback Premium Member 1969 Mustang Mach 1 6.824@101.61 Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Oklahoma jackass, get to driving Posts: 5,565 iTrader: 0 reviews	Found it.... Another Technique for Piston Notching. - Ford Muscle Forums : Ford Muscle Cars Tech Forum __________________ ./___ _ ____ ___ \. ( ]]] _ _ O _ _ [[[ ) \_ o _ _____ _ o _/ \|___\| ......... \|___\| http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HyYU3...e_gdata_player

January 10th, 2012, 01:41 PM	#10
ryanw I Post Entirely Way Too Much 1991 Ford Mustang GT Join Date: May 2007 Location: San Diego, California Posts: 6,063 iTrader: 0 reviews	Nice wright up __________________ DART 331ci stroker, AFR 185 heads, Trick Flow R intake, Accufab 70mm tb, 75mm pro m Maf, 30lb injectors, jba headers, 2 1/2" x pipe flowmaster super 10 mufflers, 255 fuel pump, 3:27 gears

January 10th, 2012, 04:23 PM	#11
StangBanger302 Hardcore Enthusiast 1992 Mustang LX 13.0 @ 105 Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: New York Posts: 2,230 iTrader: 0 reviews	Indeed, I've seen that once before. I would most likely just take the motor to a machine shop because I've never tried anything like that before, nevermind fucking with my bottom end. __________________ As I lay rubber down the street I pray for traction I can keep But if I spin, and begin to slide Please dear God, protect my ride

January 17th, 2012, 05:24 PM	#13
StangBanger302 Hardcore Enthusiast 1992 Mustang LX 13.0 @ 105 Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: New York Posts: 2,230 iTrader: 0 reviews	Anyone else have guesses for this combo? I'm gonna hit it with a 225 shot now. I'm really hoping for 11.40s-11.30s N/A and then add a 225 shot. Ultimate goal is to go 10.30s but the 225 shot MAY nudge it into the high 9s if I lighten her up some more. __________________ As I lay rubber down the street I pray for traction I can keep But if I spin, and begin to slide Please dear God, protect my ride

January 19th, 2012, 12:27 PM	#14
StangBanger302 Hardcore Enthusiast 1992 Mustang LX 13.0 @ 105 Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: New York Posts: 2,230 iTrader: 0 reviews	Bump __________________ As I lay rubber down the street I pray for traction I can keep But if I spin, and begin to slide Please dear God, protect my ride

January 19th, 2012, 01:07 PM	#15
ryanw I Post Entirely Way Too Much 1991 Ford Mustang GT Join Date: May 2007 Location: San Diego, California Posts: 6,063 iTrader: 0 reviews	I would guess, but since ive never ran at a track or even know what my own cars, eta, or horse power is, id have no clue, and id sound like a dumb ass that doesnt know what hes talking about.....lol __________________ DART 331ci stroker, AFR 185 heads, Trick Flow R intake, Accufab 70mm tb, 75mm pro m Maf, 30lb injectors, jba headers, 2 1/2" x pipe flowmaster super 10 mufflers, 255 fuel pump, 3:27 gears

January 19th, 2012, 01:14 PM	#16
StangBanger302 Hardcore Enthusiast 1992 Mustang LX 13.0 @ 105 Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: New York Posts: 2,230 iTrader: 0 reviews	Lol, I hear ya. That's why I laid out other basic combos before I wrote mine out so people can compare part to part. __________________ As I lay rubber down the street I pray for traction I can keep But if I spin, and begin to slide Please dear God, protect my ride

January 19th, 2012, 08:09 PM	#17
FastStang91Lx I Post Entirely Way Too Much 1991 Mustang LX 5.0 Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Minnesota Posts: 5,572 iTrader: 2 reviews	I'd shit myself if you hit a 11.40 N/A. I don't see it. You'd be lucky as hell to hit a 11.80 That's my guess, sorry. __________________ Point made in less than a few hours with minimal response. http://www.moddedmustangs.com/forums...ml#post4465184

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