[BradH]

Ok so here's the summary of what's goin on. Got a 93 Cobra, and I'm lookin to put a 5.0 Coyote under the hood. I know the guidelines for doing swaps in CA, but I can't seem to find a list of the emissions equipment that I'm going to need from a car that comes with the Coyote. Can anyone point me in the right direction? Any help would be much appreciated. Thank you for your time and I hope to hear from you soon.

[ryanw]

What are the guide lines ? Do you have to install every piece of emissions equipment that came on a 2012 mustang ? Im just asking cuz i didnt think we could get away with it. California is a real big dick about there laws.....

[BradH]

From what I understand, you have to install every piece of emissions equipment that the car the engine comes from has. That includes any OBD related parts. In CA, the process can be an extra pain in the ass, sometimes we get the pleasure of additional emissions parts, but it is what it is. You'll have to have a referee look at it to make sure everything is done right. There are lots of stupid rules about swaps, but if you're looking to do THIS particular swap, it CAN be done here. For info on the swap itself, check out Kurgan Motorsports. They were one of the first, if not the first, to put a coyote in a fox body. It's a lot of work, but it makes for one hell of a car. But anyways, the only thing keeping me from jumping into it myself is that list of emissions parts.

[ryanw]

Im in california to..

Do you have to take it to a referee every two years or is it a one time thing where he signs off on it, and then from there you take it to a normal smog shop ?

The reason im asking is not because i wanna do the swap, it because my dad went and put a 502 crate motor in his 78 vette, and now we have to use an home address of a family member who lives in a little town where there not required to smog any cars..... now thats all fine and good but its a pain in the ass, and i doubt they will let us use there address for ever, so im looking for a loop hole, with out having to remove or add to many parts.

The engines been in the car fora few years, but when i asked my dad why he would put an engine in that he knew wouldnt pass here in california, he was saying that he thought after a period of time the car wouldnt require to be smoged any longer, he wasnt counting on california changing the 30 year no smog mark...ya know

[nicksranger01]

you all make me happy that I live in Iowa, i have no emissions on my mustang and my truck has a bad o2 sensor and nobody cares

[ryanw]

You should care about a bad o2 sensor, because of that you giving up power and mpg, not sure if a bad o2 makes you run lean or rich but either way its not good,.... the worse thing about it, is that you know its bad, and your doing nothing about it.

Replace it asap

I just bought about a month ago two brand new bosh 02 sensors for 30 bucks off ebay...

Lol here i go again talking about my deals on e-bay

[nicksranger01]

Originally Posted by ryanw You should care about a bad o2 sensor, because of that you giving up power and mpg, not sure if a bad o2 makes you run lean or rich but either way its not good,.... the worse thing about it, is that you know its bad, and your doing nothing about it. Replace it asap

i gotta drill a hole and weld a nut into the exhaust to get a new one in, the old one is rusted in

[ryanw]

Originally Posted by nicksranger01 i gotta drill a hole and weld a nut into the exhaust to get a new one in, the old one is rusted in

Aw i see



There are bad things about living in california, such as smogging laws and cost of living, and such but there are great things about california, most places we dont salt our roads, so are cars are not rusting from the inside out, we get to drive our cars all year aound, the wheather is awesome...... no matter what environment you want, its here.we have snow, desert, mountains, coastal, inland, if you pick it, we have it

[ReverendDexter]

The absolute best thing you can do is talk to your local smog ref BEFORE you start putting any time/money into this swap. They're the ones that will determine if it's legal or not, and they're a lot happier if you come to them first. Smog ref can usually be found at your local community college.

The one thing I've heard makes their job a lot easier is if you can get a VIN for a car the motor came from.

For the other question - once the motor is ref'd in, you get a new doorjamb sticker that lets you take it to any smog shop for your biannual emissions check.


Now all that being said, why do this with the relatively rare Cobra rather than starting with a GT or LX? I'm not a diaper-wiper/collector type, but I don't see any advantage in starting with the more rare car.

[fogged306]

Originally Posted by ReverendDexter Now all that being said, why do this with the relatively rare Cobra rather than starting with a GT or LX? I'm not a diaper-wiper/collector type, but I don't see any advantage in starting with the more rare car.

Was thinking the same thing when I read the op.

[B's04gt]

I have no clue what it takes for swaps to be legal here in California.. Would be interesting to see what you had to do

[FastStang91Lx]

Originally Posted by nicksranger01 you all make me happy that I live in Iowa, i have no emissions on my mustang and my truck has a bad o2 sensor and nobody cares

That's cuz Iowa is the hick state of the midwest.

[BradH]

I like to take on a project once every 2-3 years, then flip the finished product so I have $ for a new one. The stock 5.0 is cool, but the Aluminator is badass, plain and simple. I'd rather modernize/customize than stay all original. It may not be a diehard Ford fans favorite car, but it will be one of a kind.

[BradH]

And thank you Dexter. That gives me somewhere to go from here.

[ryanw]

If you have the cash, go for it, ill tune in to see how it goes.

[BradH]

It will be a long process, but I'll be making a build journal.

[thisguysride]

do the ycheck the motor that is in the car at time of emissions, cuz from my understanding, as long as the car passes the emmision set for that veicle and year, i dont see why i would matter, and im sure that the new coyote motor even without all that emmision crap would still pass the laws for your 93.

[BradH]

Well, that's what I would consider the REASONABLE thing, but CA has lots of arbitrary rules with swaps. The emissions, HP/Torque, and even the MPG will be better than the stock 5.0 without question. I wish it worked like that...

[ReverendDexter]

The only arbitrary stuff I'm aware of is that the swapped-in engine must be from a newer model-year vehicle, the vehicle-types must match (i.e. you can't swap a truck motor into a car), and I've heard you can't swap a carbureted motor in place of a fuel-injected one, but I haven't seen the actual regulation that says that last bit. Again, why it's best to talk to the actual smog ref.

I do always find it funny how many misconceptions out-of-staters have about CA emissions.

[MIGHTYJO3YOUNG]

Originally Posted by ryanw Aw i see There are bad things about living in california, such as smogging laws and cost of living, and such but there are great things about california, most places we dont salt our roads, so are cars are not rusting from the inside out, we get to drive our cars all year aound, the wheather is awesome...... no matter what environment you want, its here.we have snow, desert, mountains, coastal, inland, if you pick it, we have it

Don't forget awesome free skateparks overlooking the ocean in multiple places, and public graffiti playground!! lol and people pushing weed on you like your gonna die if you don't say you have a disease it can fix! That one I actually didn't like, just thought it was funny! Cali is awesome... but it sucks lol.