Welp, here goes....

LSX Freak · January 12th, 2012, 08:38 PM

Started on my cam/head swap today. Only got about 2 hours to work on it, but I've gotten this far. Figured I'd post here and let everyone follow along.

ALEXLOPEZ62188 · January 12th, 2012, 09:20 PM

What heads and cam?

ryanw · January 12th, 2012, 10:20 PM

You will get more done if you take things out as a full assemblys...for example you could have pulled your radiator out with the fan shroud still conected...

StangBanger302 · January 12th, 2012, 10:45 PM

Ryan's right...it'll go smoother. Taking it apart AND putting it together. And he's going with Edelbrock Performer 5.0 heads. Idk what cam...I'm not sure if he bought that HR off of Fogged.

LSX Freak · January 12th, 2012, 11:32 PM

Originally Posted by ALEXLOPEZ62188

What heads and cam?

Edelbrock performer heads and not sure on cam yet. Need to see what lies beneath the intake.

Originally Posted by ryanw

You will get more done if you take things out as a full assemblys...for example you could have pulled your radiator out with the fan shroud still conected...

This is true. I always seem to find more work for myself somehow or another

Originally Posted by StangBanger302

Ryan's right...it'll go smoother. Taking it apart AND putting it together. And he's going with Edelbrock Performer 5.0 heads. Idk what cam...I'm not sure if he bought that HR off of Fogged.

Cam is still up in the air, I'm fearing the worst on having a non-roller block. It's not the stock block and I'm not sure if the replacement was a roller or has provisions for the roller shit to go in.

StangBanger302 · January 12th, 2012, 11:37 PM

You can always convert to roller man. Plenty of machine shops do it for little expense.

StangBanger302 · January 12th, 2012, 11:38 PM

Even if its flat tappet, you can just get a flat tappet cam for CHEAP lol. That's one of the good things about them. Just don't buy em used.

gripthenboost · January 12th, 2012, 11:39 PM

good luck with the build

LSX Freak · January 13th, 2012, 12:43 AM

Originally Posted by StangBanger302

Even if its flat tappet, you can just get a flat tappet cam for CHEAP lol. That's one of the good things about them. Just don't buy em used.

Yeah engine definitely isn't coming out for machining lol. I personally hate flat tappet shit because you can't buy cheap used shit, and they never seem to last. I've replaced so many that have been worn out in SBC's I could do it in my sleep.

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StangBanger302 · January 13th, 2012, 12:50 AM

Yeah I hear ya on not ripping the motor out. I'm probably gonna have to if this new cam doesn't clear. I'm crossing my fingers it does.

LSX Freak · January 13th, 2012, 01:29 AM

Gonna be that big?

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StangBanger302 · January 13th, 2012, 02:11 AM

Hopefully not...probably gonna be 230/232 @.050 duration at the biggest. Around. 530-.540 lift. Idk yet, I'm ordering it soon though from a cam grinder. Plus I'm having my heads milled so there's probably gonna be issues.

jessemachone · January 13th, 2012, 10:59 AM

where is the LS? I keep looking for pics of it and i just don't see it.

LSX Freak · January 14th, 2012, 09:38 AM

Lol... LS is not quite funded yet so I'm gonna build the 5.0 to satisfy my needs for now.

Didn't get a chance to post progress yesterday, but spent most of it catching up on sleep from a rough night at work. I did get the header bolts and spark plugs out after this pic. All that's left is the smog tubes on the back side and the heads are ready to come off.

But I did figure out that I do in fact have a roller block. Thank god. I was terrified I didn't. Also found what the source of the valvetrain noise was. 2 rockers that were terribly loose.

Any significance to this?

01V8MUSTANG · January 14th, 2012, 10:28 AM

Originally Posted by jessemachone

where is the LS? I keep looking for pics of it and i just don't see it.

Haha, I was just thinking the same thing!
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fogged306 · January 14th, 2012, 10:37 AM

Just for the record, in case someone else reads this thread that doesn't know any better, the only thing you need to put a roller cam in a flat tappet block is link bar lifters. No machining required. Link bar lifters are also a superior design to the hold down and dogbones that come in these cars anyway.

LSX Freak · January 14th, 2012, 11:27 AM

I didn't wanna fork out the cash for that was the issue there lol

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fogged306 · January 14th, 2012, 11:29 AM

Flat tappet block didn't. When you use link bar lifters, you don't need the spider and lifter bars (dogbones). There's a bar connecting the pair of lifters for each cylinder so they don't spin in the bore. They're capable of handling more RPM than the hold down and dogbone set-up and do the same job.

LSX Freak · January 14th, 2012, 12:17 PM

Yeah but I wasn't about to fork out the cash for that. If I wouldn't have had the roller stuff in it it was gonna get a flat tappet. I remember looking at some link bar lifters for an sbc and almost died when I saw they were mostly $400+
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302Army187 · January 15th, 2012, 03:06 AM

uh oh.... someone has got the super rare "XXX block".

Good to 800hp EASY. woot woot.

January 12th, 2012, 08:38 PM	#1
LSX Freak Enthusiast Canary yellow 1990 GT Praying for 11's after winter mods Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Moberly, Missouri Posts: 539 iTrader: 0 reviews	Welp, here goes.... Started on my cam/head swap today. Only got about 2 hours to work on it, but I've gotten this far. Figured I'd post here and let everyone follow along. __________________ -Edelbrock Performer Intake/Heads -TFS2 Cam -Tremec 3550 -All them other bolt on performance thingys

January 12th, 2012, 09:20 PM	#2
ALEXLOPEZ62188 Mustang Fanatic 1989 Mustang LX Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Apple Valley, CA Posts: 409 iTrader: 0 reviews	What heads and cam? __________________ 89 Mustang LX: 347 AFR Comp Cam TFS Track Heat 359rwhp 395rwtq

January 12th, 2012, 10:20 PM	#3
ryanw I Post Entirely Way Too Much 1991 Ford Mustang GT Join Date: May 2007 Location: San Diego, California Posts: 6,063 iTrader: 0 reviews	You will get more done if you take things out as a full assemblys...for example you could have pulled your radiator out with the fan shroud still conected... __________________ DART 331ci stroker, AFR 185 heads, Trick Flow R intake, Accufab 70mm tb, 75mm pro m Maf, 30lb injectors, jba headers, 2 1/2" x pipe flowmaster super 10 mufflers, 255 fuel pump, 3:27 gears

January 12th, 2012, 10:45 PM	#4
StangBanger302 Hardcore Enthusiast 1992 Mustang LX 13.0 @ 105 Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: New York Posts: 2,230 iTrader: 0 reviews	Ryan's right...it'll go smoother. Taking it apart AND putting it together. And he's going with Edelbrock Performer 5.0 heads. Idk what cam...I'm not sure if he bought that HR off of Fogged. __________________ As I lay rubber down the street I pray for traction I can keep But if I spin, and begin to slide Please dear God, protect my ride

January 12th, 2012, 11:37 PM	#6
StangBanger302 Hardcore Enthusiast 1992 Mustang LX 13.0 @ 105 Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: New York Posts: 2,230 iTrader: 0 reviews	You can always convert to roller man. Plenty of machine shops do it for little expense. __________________ As I lay rubber down the street I pray for traction I can keep But if I spin, and begin to slide Please dear God, protect my ride

January 12th, 2012, 11:38 PM	#7
StangBanger302 Hardcore Enthusiast 1992 Mustang LX 13.0 @ 105 Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: New York Posts: 2,230 iTrader: 0 reviews	Even if its flat tappet, you can just get a flat tappet cam for CHEAP lol. That's one of the good things about them. Just don't buy em used. __________________ As I lay rubber down the street I pray for traction I can keep But if I spin, and begin to slide Please dear God, protect my ride

January 12th, 2012, 11:39 PM	#8
gripthenboost Hardcore Enthusiast 91 Mustang GT 1991 sliver GT Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: New York Posts: 1,213 iTrader: 0 reviews	good luck with the build __________________

January 13th, 2012, 12:50 AM	#10
StangBanger302 Hardcore Enthusiast 1992 Mustang LX 13.0 @ 105 Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: New York Posts: 2,230 iTrader: 0 reviews	Yeah I hear ya on not ripping the motor out. I'm probably gonna have to if this new cam doesn't clear. I'm crossing my fingers it does. __________________ As I lay rubber down the street I pray for traction I can keep But if I spin, and begin to slide Please dear God, protect my ride

January 13th, 2012, 01:29 AM	#11
LSX Freak Enthusiast Canary yellow 1990 GT Praying for 11's after winter mods Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Moberly, Missouri Posts: 539 iTrader: 0 reviews	Gonna be that big? Sent from my Motorola Electrify using AutoGuide.Com Free __________________ -Edelbrock Performer Intake/Heads -TFS2 Cam -Tremec 3550 -All them other bolt on performance thingys

January 13th, 2012, 02:11 AM	#12
StangBanger302 Hardcore Enthusiast 1992 Mustang LX 13.0 @ 105 Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: New York Posts: 2,230 iTrader: 0 reviews	Hopefully not...probably gonna be 230/232 @.050 duration at the biggest. Around. 530-.540 lift. Idk yet, I'm ordering it soon though from a cam grinder. Plus I'm having my heads milled so there's probably gonna be issues. __________________ As I lay rubber down the street I pray for traction I can keep But if I spin, and begin to slide Please dear God, protect my ride

January 14th, 2012, 09:38 AM	#14
LSX Freak Enthusiast Canary yellow 1990 GT Praying for 11's after winter mods Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Moberly, Missouri Posts: 539 iTrader: 0 reviews	Lol... LS is not quite funded yet so I'm gonna build the 5.0 to satisfy my needs for now. Didn't get a chance to post progress yesterday, but spent most of it catching up on sleep from a rough night at work. I did get the header bolts and spark plugs out after this pic. All that's left is the smog tubes on the back side and the heads are ready to come off. But I did figure out that I do in fact have a roller block. Thank god. I was terrified I didn't. Also found what the source of the valvetrain noise was. 2 rockers that were terribly loose. Any significance to this? __________________ -Edelbrock Performer Intake/Heads -TFS2 Cam -Tremec 3550 -All them other bolt on performance thingys

January 14th, 2012, 10:37 AM	#16
fogged306 MM Fanatic 89 GT Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: NY Posts: 4,875 iTrader: 2 reviews	Just for the record, in case someone else reads this thread that doesn't know any better, the only thing you need to put a roller cam in a flat tappet block is link bar lifters. No machining required. Link bar lifters are also a superior design to the hold down and dogbones that come in these cars anyway.

January 14th, 2012, 11:27 AM	#17
LSX Freak Enthusiast Canary yellow 1990 GT Praying for 11's after winter mods Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Moberly, Missouri Posts: 539 iTrader: 0 reviews	I didn't wanna fork out the cash for that was the issue there lol Sent from my Motorola Electrify using AutoGuide.Com Free __________________ -Edelbrock Performer Intake/Heads -TFS2 Cam -Tremec 3550 -All them other bolt on performance thingys

January 14th, 2012, 11:29 AM	#18
fogged306 MM Fanatic 89 GT Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: NY Posts: 4,875 iTrader: 2 reviews	Flat tappet block didn't. When you use link bar lifters, you don't need the spider and lifter bars (dogbones). There's a bar connecting the pair of lifters for each cylinder so they don't spin in the bore. They're capable of handling more RPM than the hold down and dogbone set-up and do the same job.

January 14th, 2012, 12:17 PM	#19
LSX Freak Enthusiast Canary yellow 1990 GT Praying for 11's after winter mods Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Moberly, Missouri Posts: 539 iTrader: 0 reviews	Yeah but I wasn't about to fork out the cash for that. If I wouldn't have had the roller stuff in it it was gonna get a flat tappet. I remember looking at some link bar lifters for an sbc and almost died when I saw they were mostly $400+ Sent from my Motorola Electrify using AutoGuide.Com Free __________________ -Edelbrock Performer Intake/Heads -TFS2 Cam -Tremec 3550 -All them other bolt on performance thingys

January 15th, 2012, 03:06 AM	#20
302Army187 Hardcore Enthusiast '89 LX 'Vert 10's or bust... Literally. Join Date: May 2009 Location: Denver, Co Posts: 2,915 iTrader: 0 reviews	uh oh.... someone has got the super rare "XXX block". Good to 800hp EASY. woot woot. __________________ H/C/I 302 + nitrous for now... supercharger/turbo soon? www.youtube.com/Xarmy187 Please support my YouTube channel! My videos don't disappoint!

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