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Old January 26th, 2012, 12:44 PM   #81
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Yup, I was going to get an even smaller pulley from him like the 2.0 he had, but we decided that its best to start with the 2.5 because of this being a different blower and not knowing the kind of psi it might put out on my application. I have a Idler pulley that is going to be incorporated into my support bracket .

I'm not sure if my uncle would make two simply because his health is not great. If you have your power steering pump up top like me I could send you the specs and you could get one made if you want!

What we are trying to do is make it so the bracket itself has a race that holds the bearing instead of using the flange bearing that sticks out 5" from side to side.

What would you think about milling a tube to go over the shaft that would be welded to the original cover with a bearing inside the tube to distribute the stress back to the cover of the supercharger? Then you could just have a brace for the outside with no bearing needed on the brace. I'm just trying to come up with something that looks nice.

ideally I would want it to look like this extension here.

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Old January 26th, 2012, 12:49 PM   #82
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Originally Posted by ReefBlue1994 View Post
I can get an eaton m112 and adapter plate for 600$...what else would I need with this setup besides the pulley and belt..new to superchargers.i assume some cooling...upgraded TB and MAF?


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Its not necessary it seems, but does give peace of mind. To make some kind of support for the snout so it doesn't snap from downward pressure and extreme heat. This is what we are discussing now.
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I don't think you could add shit to the snout part, if you tired to weld it, it would distort it, and it would be very hard to get it perfect where it didn't have drag in someplace.

you would have to have a full kit like in the link is my GUESS...... can't know for sure.


If I can get 14k rpm out of the blower from my current pulleys im going to roll with that for a while.
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Soo my idea.

My snout has a lip where the original pulley pressed over. The lip is .173" thick, 2" in diameter and about 1.4" long. My plan is to make a snout housing that will press onto that lip, and have lips within it to lock the bearing inside it in place for support. This will distribute the weight of the snout throughout the front case and the rest of the supercharger without the need to weld anything. It would be designed with some flanges up front so you could pull it back off in the future if you needed to replace the internal support bearing. Whatcha think?? I'm thinking with this design I won't even need the support bracket. Exact specs still need to be worked out.
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idk about not needing a support bracket........ I would think it would need to be a solid piece to withstand the pull from the belt.... a tight belt exert's a shit load of force...


its not a bad idea at all though
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So its been a while since I posted here. Here is an update.

I have been slowly piecing things together on the car. Today I got the supercharger bolted on top of the adapter and it seems that the rotors rub a tiny bit on the inside of the custom adapter. It will spin, but binds at the same spot every rotation. Not good. No metal my engine please! Other than that I have gotten a lot of other little things done.

Throttle and Speed control cables are hooked up and functioning, and out of the way and clean. Bought some extension rods from march performance for the pillow mount bearing to support it, but one is too long so I now have to send it back and get the correct length. Made a bracket to hold a tensioner puller for almost 180* belt wrap or possibly more and got it mounted up. Distributor is in and gapped my spark plugs to 32. Running autolite 3924's. Put on a 6 1/2" crank pulley from a ford F-150 truck. Bought a belt today for the setup but its too short. measured out 80" with string got an 81" belt, but looks like I need an 84" belt so I'll get that tomorrow.

Hopefully I'll get it going soon. Maybe next week from the way things are looking.

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Just thinking and I'm pretty sure the rotors cant be hitting the metal adapter plate.. but either way I need to figure out what it going on.
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mine was rubbing when the supercharger was in my cold ass garage.

I brought it inside the house when i noticed this. (made that shop vac video)

once it was in the house for like 20 min..... getting some heat into it as it was probably 30 degrees.... it stopped rubbing.

kinda concerning that it will rub and damage the case when the car is cold and first started up :/

but I guess atleast you know that its tight and not all wore out already haha. So maybe just try getting it up to a good temperature in your house if you have it out in the cold garage?
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Well thats some good info! Now my pulley sticks out too far on this shaft design so I have to get yet another pulley :/ I'm starting to get pretty frustrated... but I'm still a lot closer than I was a week ago. And it in the cold garage, but it almost seems like its sticking and needs a lot more force to turn it past this one spot. If its already moving not nearly as hard to get it to continue to turn.. Very weird because it hadn't done this to me when it was not bolted down to the motor. Now I don't have oil in it yet and it might be part of the problem. I will fill it with oil, try to get it warmer and see what I see.
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Maybe when it's bolted down it somehow gets torqued out of shape?
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Originally Posted by MIGHTYJO3YOUNG View Post
Now my pulley sticks out too far on this shaft design so I have to get yet another pulley :/ I'm starting to get pretty frustrated...
was expecting pictures?


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Okay but only because you have that ridiculous picture!

I was able to swap tensioning rods around to get them all to work. I also got a belt that fits currently, but I have the tensioner pulley set up to turn clockwise to release and the belt is spinning clockwise around it so I fear under load it will press it forward and release the belt. Thoughts? looks like the belt aligned itself and will work with my current pulleys, but the supercharger pulley is just slightly off.

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Do you have any binding with the throttle cable making such a sharp turn ?

Did you move the windshield wiper fluid box to the passenger side so that you can have a cold air intake ?
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I love how you have all your tools sitting on the battery, right next to the terminals..lmao
Lmao. I am also guilty of this. It's such a convenient flat spot in the engine bay


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Not a bit of binding. Just as smooth as it can be, but the spring on the end of the cable is compressed a little more so when you floor it you hit the carpet a little quicker than normal, but you don't need to hit the carpet to get wot.

I haven't moved the washer fluid yea, and I'm not sure If I will yet. Its a tough spot to get to with that filter without taking it out the inner fender. Not sure if its actually possible with out removing the inner fender. Guestimate. How much of AIT difference do you think I would see?

Over on corral there is some one that has a blower sidemounted over the headers with intake right there too and his AIT's were 220-234ish.


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It is very convenient! once I accidentally let a wrench tough both posts of battery and had to use something to pry it off! Melted the wrench where it was touching lol. I still haven't learned my lesson.
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It is very convenient! once I accidentally let a wrench tough both posts of battery and had to use something to pry it off! Melted the wrench where it was touching lol. I still haven't learned my lesson.
Wow that's nuts! Haha. My dad always bitches at me about it. Then again, he bitches about absolutely everything which is why I refuse to work with or around him.


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My dad does the same thing, but it goes both ways, and I just deal with it sometimes. It's nice working with him though.
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looking good.


I forget if it was these kits, or another car, but the idler pulley was set up similar and that fucker was all over the place. just idling the pulley was shaking around, and when you wrapped on the throttle the belt would make the pulley back off a bit.

looked sketchy, and my bet is your pulley is going to do the same exact thing.

On svt cobra's im pretty sure there pulley that does the same thing is fixated and does not move/no spring. so they don't have this issue.

with the way you don't have that bracket tied into anything else for the idler, hopefully all the vibration doesn't make the bolts back out.



Could you get a picture of the misalignment? like put a strait edge on another pulley and have it close to the supercharger pulley?
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Yea, was already thinking the Idler pulley needs to be redone. More support for sure, and mounted a different way so it won't back off with throttle. It looks good, but in reality it could fail and cause problems.

Fifth pic down in the last pic post. look at the idler pulley and how the belt travels along it. From the blower it is closer to the front side of the vehicle, and leaving the pulley to the PS pump it is closer to the rear side of the pulley. No ruler as its late and I don't feel like going into the garage now but hopefully that will give you an idea of the misalignment I'm dealing with. Think I should get another pulley? Or do you think it will work?
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idk, from that picture it looks fine to me. My belt rides a little funny on my waterpump pulley too, but I think its just the aftermarket underdrive shit
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