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Old January 13th, 2012, 08:33 PM   #1
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Traction Help!!


I am getting pretty tired of the traction game. I have a stock 1988 fox coupe with small mods like a gt40 intake 70mm throttlebody/ spacer 70mm maf. underdrive pullies. I started with 225 tires on the stock 10 holes so I wasn't expecting to get any traction through 1st gear. I was correct. It's been killing me since I got sunframe connectors, rear lower control arms, tubular kmember/a arms, front coilovers. I have tokico blue shocks in the rear with some cheap maxspeed lowering springs. The car is missing the rear seat and has no spare tire in the trunk. just a 12" sub and amp. Why can't my coupe get traction? I doubt I'm making any more than 230hp Are coupes really that light from the ass? lol I even bought brand new nitto nt555 on my new cobra wheels just the other day!! They're 275's! I was thinking maybe it was because I had my car super low in the front with the coilovers and it was messing with weight transfer. Do I just need more weight? Thanks
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The lowering springs in the rear aren't helping. What is your spring rate for your coil-overs in the front?
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Damn..everyone overlooks the one thing everyone should put on a stang. Slicks. Slicks will help you tremendously. You'll hook on a 26x8.5 tire and that's small for a slick. Try that...or ditch the lowering springs and put stock V8 springs in it. That'll help too. Your 275s are a low profile as well. No sidewall means your tire can't absorb the shock and it instantly turns into wheelspin.
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Damn..everyone overlooks the one thing everyone should put on a stang. Slicks. Slicks will help you tremendously. You'll hook on a 26x8.5 tire and that's small for a slick. Try that...or ditch the lowering springs and put stock V8 springs in it. That'll help too. Your 275s are a low profile as well. No sidewall means your tire can't absorb the shock and it instantly turns into wheelspin.
Ok So that means 900 dollars went down the drain for me? The thing is I'm a college student who only drives this thing on the street. I can't drive with slicks especially now that its winter. I guess I'll just try selling my wheels/tires.
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Doesn't necessarily mean you wasted 900$. It just means if you want to really launch your car you'll want 15 or 16 inch wheels. Anything above has a hard time hooking. I would swap the lowering springs for stock v8 ones and see how that goes. Also, lower your tire pressure to 25psi in your rears and that'll help too. Honestly, its a stock car and it should be hooking on drag radials. Try and post a video of a launch so we can see how you're launching. Is it a stickshift? Never think your car is TOO light lol. Drag racers look for low weight cars and there's a reason for it you'll get this solved, don't worry.
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One thing alot of people running 17's on the street is to pick up a pair of cheap stock 15" wheels and have an extra set of sticky's, slicks or at least drag radials, on them and run THOSE at the track only.
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NT555 is a good tire but it’s not made for drag racing. If you want traction at any given moment you’re going to need drag radials. You can drive on the streets all day (not a good tire for wet driving conditions) then go to the track lower the psi and get some great traction. Or put some slicks on your ten holes. Either way you need to work on your weight transfer as the other guys have posted.
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Stupid question but are u still a one burner?
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Originally Posted by gripthenboost View Post
Stupid question but are u still a one burner?
No I have a Thunderbird SC diff with 3.55 gears. should be posi. I cut my rear springs today and it finally dropped my car more and noticed my shocks are compressed now. Before they weren't compressed at all. I heard that's bad for traction as well
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I run 555r's on my car and drove it to the shop the other day with some snow and ice on the streets. Absolutely without a doubt the most worthless tire ever for driving in that stuff. Granted it's not designed for it I figured it'd still be able to be drivable if I were careful. Wrong.

I can't speak for the 555's but if they're anything like the r's you're gonna want to figure something else out if you're driving in ice or snow.
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Originally Posted by StangBanger302 View Post
Doesn't necessarily mean you wasted 900$. It just means if you want to really launch your car you'll want 15 or 16 inch wheels. Anything above has a hard time hooking. I would swap the lowering springs for stock v8 ones and see how that goes. Also, lower your tire pressure to 25psi in your rears and that'll help too. Honestly, its a stock car and it should be hooking on drag radials. Try and post a video of a launch so we can see how you're launching. Is it a stickshift? Never think your car is TOO light lol. Drag racers look for low weight cars and there's a reason for it you'll get this solved, don't worry.
I meant too light from the rear. haha. Yeah, I think a video is a good Idea. I'll lower my tire pressure as well.
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Originally Posted by LSX Freak View Post
I run 555r's on my car and drove it to the shop the other day with some snow and ice on the streets. Absolutely without a doubt the most worthless tire ever for driving in that stuff. Granted it's not designed for it I figured it'd still be able to be drivable if I were careful. Wrong.

I can't speak for the 555's but if they're anything like the r's you're gonna want to figure something else out if you're driving in ice or snow.
I live in Cali lol
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I live in Cali lol
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Originally Posted by foxvert91 View Post
No I have a Thunderbird SC diff with 3.55 gears. should be posi. I cut my rear springs today and it finally dropped my car more and noticed my shocks are compressed now. Before they weren't compressed at all. I heard that's bad for traction as well
Doesn't mean your clutch packs in your dif are good.

So you have lowering springs and you cut coils out of them?
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I got eibach pro kit springs, Tokico blue shocks/struts, bbk upper and lower control arms, 3.73 gears, and some shitty all season Firestone tires on pony wheels and I can spin the tires all the way to 4th gear if I try. No traction at all. You just gotta learn to play the clutch. I'm definitely getting some 555r's for when it's dry. I do notice that this car has a lot more traction problems then my last fox with stock suspension.
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Did you not read the first response to your post? Fogged wrote lowering springs aren’t helping? You can put your stock springs back in now.
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Originally Posted by fogged306 View Post
Doesn't mean your clutch packs in your dif are good.

So you have lowering springs and you cut coils out of them?
Yeah. Is that bad I only paid 30 bucks for them. I'm hoping to get coilovers if I end up selling my new wheels/tires
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Originally Posted by 1LOUDGT View Post
Did you not read the first response to your post? Fogged wrote lowering springs aren’t helping? You can put your stock springs back in now.
So Is there no way to have a car that's lowered and have traction at the same time? Not even with coilovers? I love lowered cars. I hate to see fender gaps.
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Originally Posted by 1LOUDGT View Post
Did you not read the first response to your post? Fogged wrote lowering springs aren’t helping? You can put your stock springs back in now.
Problem is my car started as a 4 banger. Those springs won't do will they?
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Listen dude I have bfgoodrich GeForce 235 in the rear and subframe connectors and gr2 shocks and steeda springs and if I pop the clutch I spin, I have to slip the clutch to get maximum traction. So I think your right foots to heavy buddy. Also if you feel the tires slipping back off a lil then get back on. This is not forza or grand turmiso u gotta work to drive these old ass cars...
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