top end thoughts

ryanw · January 19th, 2012, 04:51 PM

I do agree on ditching the cobra computer....unless your going to have it dyno tuned with a chip, then i dont think it matters

Racerbox77 · January 19th, 2012, 05:46 PM

Originally Posted by StangBanger302

His setup with the e-cam will be around 290-300rwhp...A custom grind from Ed should be anywhere from 300-350rwhp...PLUS, the driveability will be MUCH better than a stupid e-cam. It's 325 for an SADI core from ED. Not bad if you ask me. If he pklans on going FI in the future, his heada are fine. People split stock blocks with iron gt40s and some boost, nevermind some nice TrickFlows.

Theres no way any cam on a 300 hp motor is going to be worth 50 hp over an E cam. Thats about a 20% hp increase.
E cam's run fine for DD.
Alpha cam's are old school but they do work fairly well and if he has one for free I say use it.
Just to be clear I agree he is better off with a custom cam but in this case it may not make sense.

"People split stock blocks with iron gt40s and some boost, nevermind some nice TrickFlows"
True

StangBanger302 · January 19th, 2012, 05:55 PM

Originally Posted by Racerbox77

Theres no way any cam on a 300 hp motor is going to be worth 50 hp over an E cam. Thats about a 20% hp increase.
E cam's run fine for DD.
Alpha cam's are old school but they do work fairly well and if he has one for free I say use it.
Just to be clear I agree he is better off with a custom cam but in this case it may not make sense.

"People split stock blocks with iron gt40s and some boost, nevermind some nice TrickFlows"
True

I'm not here to argue, just contribute and discuss. With that said, I agree he can use the e-cam for free and it would net more hp than a stock cam, but in my experience with letter cams a custom would be SO much better when it comes to driveability. As for the power remark, people who use similar setups as his with an e-cam will make ~300rwhp while people who have used trick flow stage 2 cams made 330rwhp...That's 30hp right there and it's not even custom. Custom cams might do more than you think

In the end, it all depends on the OP's budget and goals.

Racerbox77 · January 19th, 2012, 07:16 PM

It's all good

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tyler97 · January 19th, 2012, 09:11 PM

i think it has a chip it went well past 6900 rpms on a burnout pull, so idk exactly what i have but i do know as far as motor work.

ryanw · January 19th, 2012, 09:18 PM

Dont trust the stock tac.....lol

tyler97 · January 19th, 2012, 09:21 PM

Ported or not sorry but how do i post pics

FastStang91Lx · January 19th, 2012, 09:24 PM

Use a photobucket or equivalent site and copy and paste the image code.

tyler97 · January 19th, 2012, 10:03 PM

where do i put the image code? just where you reply to the forum

FastStang91Lx · January 19th, 2012, 10:30 PM

Yep

tyler97 · January 19th, 2012, 10:48 PM

PORTED? has rings around ports

Racerbox77 · January 19th, 2012, 11:38 PM

You go through a lot of toilet paper I see (second pic) LOL

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tyler97 · January 19th, 2012, 11:49 PM

Ahha its at the shop

tyler97 · January 20th, 2012, 02:02 PM

bump

Racerbox77 · January 20th, 2012, 02:10 PM

I can't tell from the pics if its been ported but it does look either polished or extruded for sure.

tyler97 · January 21st, 2012, 01:18 PM

Hmm guytold me they were 190s so idk trick flow part# is 170 trackheat addition

FastStang91Lx · January 21st, 2012, 01:37 PM

People lie, people are misinformed, etc.

tyler97 · January 21st, 2012, 05:56 PM

i hear u on that one but im not sure as there are no bumps in the ports. See pics

Chris951 · January 21st, 2012, 08:16 PM

Originally Posted by Racerbox77

Theres no way any cam on a 300 hp motor is going to be worth 50 hp over an E cam. Thats about a 20% hp increase.
E cam's run fine for DD.
Alpha cam's are old school but they do work fairly well and if he has one for free I say use it.
Just to be clear I agree he is better off with a custom cam but in this case it may not make sense.

"People split stock blocks with iron gt40s and some boost, nevermind some nice TrickFlows"
True

Letter cams are junk! They don't make shit for power. The reason for this is because ford heads use a bigger intake valve than the exhaust valve. This means the cam needs to be a split profile cam with more duration/lift on the exhaust side for optimum performance. Letter cams are single profile cams and should be thrown in the garbage.

Racerbox77 · January 21st, 2012, 08:43 PM

I wouldn't call letter cams junk. I'm currently making 500 whp with an E cam and stock heads boosted. And years ago I had a B cam that ran great. It really depends on the application. Yes other cams are better for sure.
Fyi all 2v heads use larger intake valves than exhaust, just saying.
Sent from me

January 19th, 2012, 04:51 PM	#21
ryanw I Post Entirely Way Too Much 1991 Ford Mustang GT Join Date: May 2007 Location: San Diego, California Posts: 6,063 iTrader: 0 reviews	I do agree on ditching the cobra computer....unless your going to have it dyno tuned with a chip, then i dont think it matters __________________ DART 331ci stroker, AFR 185 heads, Trick Flow R intake, Accufab 70mm tb, 75mm pro m Maf, 30lb injectors, jba headers, 2 1/2" x pipe flowmaster super 10 mufflers, 255 fuel pump, 3:27 gears

January 19th, 2012, 07:16 PM	#24
Racerbox77 UPR 1993 Cobra SVT 10.90 @ 128 Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Ohio Posts: 116 iTrader: 2 reviews	It's all good Sent from me __________________ Runnin 10's with the A/C on 1993 Mustang Cobra Black on Black 2004 Focus SVT ZX5 1 OF 51 in Competition Orange Soon to be supplying MM with UPR parts at stupid prices

January 19th, 2012, 09:11 PM	#25
tyler97 Regular 1991 gt cobra clone Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: FL Posts: 374 iTrader: 0 reviews	i think it has a chip it went well past 6900 rpms on a burnout pull, so idk exactly what i have but i do know as far as motor work. __________________ 1991 GT- Ripped torque boxes/no SFCs/306/24lb injectors/Twisted Wedge 170s/Full exhaust/Full bolt ons/X3Z computer Buid thread http://www.moddedmustangs.com/forums...ld-thread.html

January 19th, 2012, 09:18 PM	#26
ryanw I Post Entirely Way Too Much 1991 Ford Mustang GT Join Date: May 2007 Location: San Diego, California Posts: 6,063 iTrader: 0 reviews	Dont trust the stock tac.....lol __________________ DART 331ci stroker, AFR 185 heads, Trick Flow R intake, Accufab 70mm tb, 75mm pro m Maf, 30lb injectors, jba headers, 2 1/2" x pipe flowmaster super 10 mufflers, 255 fuel pump, 3:27 gears

January 19th, 2012, 09:21 PM	#27
tyler97 Regular 1991 gt cobra clone Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: FL Posts: 374 iTrader: 0 reviews	Ported or not sorry but how do i post pics __________________ 1991 GT- Ripped torque boxes/no SFCs/306/24lb injectors/Twisted Wedge 170s/Full exhaust/Full bolt ons/X3Z computer Buid thread http://www.moddedmustangs.com/forums...ld-thread.html

January 19th, 2012, 09:24 PM	#28
FastStang91Lx I Post Entirely Way Too Much 1991 Mustang LX 5.0 Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Minnesota Posts: 5,572 iTrader: 2 reviews	Use a photobucket or equivalent site and copy and paste the image code. __________________ Point made in less than a few hours with minimal response. http://www.moddedmustangs.com/forums...ml#post4465184

January 19th, 2012, 10:03 PM	#29
tyler97 Regular 1991 gt cobra clone Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: FL Posts: 374 iTrader: 0 reviews	where do i put the image code? just where you reply to the forum __________________ 1991 GT- Ripped torque boxes/no SFCs/306/24lb injectors/Twisted Wedge 170s/Full exhaust/Full bolt ons/X3Z computer Buid thread http://www.moddedmustangs.com/forums...ld-thread.html

January 19th, 2012, 10:30 PM	#30
FastStang91Lx I Post Entirely Way Too Much 1991 Mustang LX 5.0 Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Minnesota Posts: 5,572 iTrader: 2 reviews	Yep __________________ Point made in less than a few hours with minimal response. http://www.moddedmustangs.com/forums...ml#post4465184

January 19th, 2012, 10:48 PM	#31
tyler97 Regular 1991 gt cobra clone Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: FL Posts: 374 iTrader: 0 reviews	PORTED? has rings around ports __________________ 1991 GT- Ripped torque boxes/no SFCs/306/24lb injectors/Twisted Wedge 170s/Full exhaust/Full bolt ons/X3Z computer Buid thread http://www.moddedmustangs.com/forums...ld-thread.html

January 19th, 2012, 11:38 PM	#32
Racerbox77 UPR 1993 Cobra SVT 10.90 @ 128 Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Ohio Posts: 116 iTrader: 2 reviews	You go through a lot of toilet paper I see (second pic) LOL Sent from me __________________ Runnin 10's with the A/C on 1993 Mustang Cobra Black on Black 2004 Focus SVT ZX5 1 OF 51 in Competition Orange Soon to be supplying MM with UPR parts at stupid prices

January 19th, 2012, 11:49 PM	#33
tyler97 Regular 1991 gt cobra clone Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: FL Posts: 374 iTrader: 0 reviews	Ahha its at the shop __________________ 1991 GT- Ripped torque boxes/no SFCs/306/24lb injectors/Twisted Wedge 170s/Full exhaust/Full bolt ons/X3Z computer Buid thread http://www.moddedmustangs.com/forums...ld-thread.html

January 20th, 2012, 02:02 PM	#34
tyler97 Regular 1991 gt cobra clone Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: FL Posts: 374 iTrader: 0 reviews	bump __________________ 1991 GT- Ripped torque boxes/no SFCs/306/24lb injectors/Twisted Wedge 170s/Full exhaust/Full bolt ons/X3Z computer Buid thread http://www.moddedmustangs.com/forums...ld-thread.html

January 20th, 2012, 02:10 PM	#35
Racerbox77 UPR 1993 Cobra SVT 10.90 @ 128 Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Ohio Posts: 116 iTrader: 2 reviews	I can't tell from the pics if its been ported but it does look either polished or extruded for sure. __________________ Runnin 10's with the A/C on 1993 Mustang Cobra Black on Black 2004 Focus SVT ZX5 1 OF 51 in Competition Orange Soon to be supplying MM with UPR parts at stupid prices

January 21st, 2012, 01:18 PM	#36
tyler97 Regular 1991 gt cobra clone Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: FL Posts: 374 iTrader: 0 reviews	Hmm guytold me they were 190s so idk trick flow part# is 170 trackheat addition __________________ 1991 GT- Ripped torque boxes/no SFCs/306/24lb injectors/Twisted Wedge 170s/Full exhaust/Full bolt ons/X3Z computer Buid thread http://www.moddedmustangs.com/forums...ld-thread.html

January 21st, 2012, 01:37 PM	#37
FastStang91Lx I Post Entirely Way Too Much 1991 Mustang LX 5.0 Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Minnesota Posts: 5,572 iTrader: 2 reviews	People lie, people are misinformed, etc. __________________ Point made in less than a few hours with minimal response. http://www.moddedmustangs.com/forums...ml#post4465184

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January 21st, 2012, 05:56 PM	#38
tyler97 Regular 1991 gt cobra clone Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: FL Posts: 374 iTrader: 0 reviews	i hear u on that one but im not sure as there are no bumps in the ports. See pics __________________ 1991 GT- Ripped torque boxes/no SFCs/306/24lb injectors/Twisted Wedge 170s/Full exhaust/Full bolt ons/X3Z computer Buid thread http://www.moddedmustangs.com/forums...ld-thread.html

January 21st, 2012, 08:43 PM	#40
Racerbox77 UPR 1993 Cobra SVT 10.90 @ 128 Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Ohio Posts: 116 iTrader: 2 reviews	I wouldn't call letter cams junk. I'm currently making 500 whp with an E cam and stock heads boosted. And years ago I had a B cam that ran great. It really depends on the application. Yes other cams are better for sure. Fyi all 2v heads use larger intake valves than exhaust, just saying. Sent from me __________________ Runnin 10's with the A/C on 1993 Mustang Cobra Black on Black 2004 Focus SVT ZX5 1 OF 51 in Competition Orange Soon to be supplying MM with UPR parts at stupid prices

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