CYLINDER HEADS

93Lx.Conv5.0 · January 22nd, 2012, 09:39 PM

OK I'M CURRENTLY LOOKING FOR SOME HEADS AND WAS WONDERING DO YOU LOOK FOR THE HEADS WITH THE BIGGEST CC CHAMBERS AND BIGGEST CC INTAKE RUNNERS BASICALLY WITH THE BIGGEST SPECS? WHAT DO YOU LOOK FOR IN SHOPPING FOR CYLINDER HEADS?

FastStang91Lx · January 22nd, 2012, 09:55 PM

Quit yelling! Lol. Turn the caps lock off man. There is sooooooo much more to looking for heads than just that. I suggest you read on here a lot before you buy some. Combustion chamber cc will contribute to your compression ratio, intake cc will help determine your rpm range and power capabilities... Putting a really large intake cc head on a small cube motor will only let that motor really shine in the upper rpm range, possibly leaving you with a narrow powerband depending on the rest of your combination.

93Lx.Conv5.0 · January 22nd, 2012, 10:03 PM

lol so what you recommend some good sizes because i don't know at all.. I have gt40 upper and lower right now until i get different and a b303 cam... if that info helps. i would rather have some heads that helps the gt40 intakes perform better and the cam but not go backwards in the power range if i get better intakes that aren't compatible with the heads if thats makes any sense...

69fastback · January 22nd, 2012, 10:04 PM

Displacement, goal, budget..........

93Lx.Conv5.0 · January 22nd, 2012, 10:11 PM

goal is to have a nice little street car with out breaking the bank...

69fastback · January 22nd, 2012, 10:23 PM

Ok, before you go throwing money at parts, you need a realistic goal, and a budget. Are you keeping it a 302? Going to stroke it later? Are you going to ditch that intake for a good one? Everything needs to work together, and you have to plan ahead.

horsepowerjunkie · January 22nd, 2012, 10:26 PM

Trick Flow Twisted Wedge 170, AFR 165, Edelbrock Performer (1.9 intake), FRPP GT40X heads are all good starting points on a stock short block for a mild street car. While your in there, sell that B303 and get yourself a Trick Flow stage 1, Comp XE266HR, or Anderson N21 cam. Either one of those will make more power than the old B cam, plus alot more drivabuility!

93Lx.Conv5.0 · January 22nd, 2012, 10:45 PM

plan on keeping it a 302... and what qualifies a 302 to be stock? having original pistons and crank?

FastStang91Lx · January 22nd, 2012, 10:48 PM

Shortblock is block and rotating assembly (pistons, rods, crank). Long block includes heads and sometimes other misc. parts.

69fastback · January 22nd, 2012, 10:52 PM

Do you have a realistic budget?

FastStang91Lx · January 22nd, 2012, 10:55 PM

Without breaking the bank doesn't mean much. To me a dollar is like a hundred. To 69Fastback... well he wipes his ass with hundred dollar bills.

So if you get what I'm saying, tell us your budget and we can tell you what things to look for in that budget range to get you your biggest bang for the buck. If you can afford prime rib, we're not gonna suggest a McRib....

69fastback · January 22nd, 2012, 10:58 PM

Originally Posted by FastStang91Lx

Without breaking the bank doesn't mean much. To me a dollar is like a hundred. To 69Fastback... well he wipes his ass with hundred dollar bills.

So if you get what I'm saying, tell us your budget and we can tell you what things to look for in that budget range to get you your biggest bang for the buck. If you can afford prime rib, we're not gonna suggest a McRib....

Lol...I wish that were true. I'd make it rain on these hoes!

FastStang91Lx · January 22nd, 2012, 11:01 PM

I knew you'd like that!

93Lx.Conv5.0 · January 22nd, 2012, 11:03 PM

i don't have a budget at all... i was just going and adding... i see something i may want or need ill just buy it of try and save the money up until i can afford it... i never set a budget for myself because i don't know the price ranges of everything so i can't think of a number thats suitable... but if i just throw a number out there like 2 grand what can be done?

FastStang91Lx · January 22nd, 2012, 11:18 PM

2g's is a moderate budget that will allow you to do a nice used intake, used heads, all the supporting hardware, and new/used cam. Then you'll still need another 5-600 for a tune. See where I'm going with this. What are ALL the mods you have on the car currently. From motor to suspension. What is the amount of working cash that you have available right now. And most importantly when you say street car, that means no to very little track use, right?

69fastback · January 22nd, 2012, 11:28 PM

Originally Posted by FastStang91Lx

2g's is a moderate budget that will allow you to do a nice used intake, used heads, all the supporting hardware, and new/used cam. Then you'll still need another 5-600 for a tune. See where I'm going with this. What are ALL the mods you have on the car currently. From motor to suspension. What is the amount of working cash that you have available right now. And most importantly when you say street car, that means no to very little track use, right?

hell no! Mines a street car!

FastStang91Lx · January 22nd, 2012, 11:33 PM

Mine's a street car too, but by the way he was talking, I figured that is what he meant, lol, not my interpretation of the meaning of street car.

69fastback · January 22nd, 2012, 11:43 PM

See. Mine is still a "street car." lol. All about perception

I know what you mean though.

93Lx.Conv5.0 · January 23rd, 2012, 02:36 AM

well the only mods i have right now are a cold air intake, gt40 upper and lower, shorty heads, performance plugs and wired, msd cap, cam, exhaust, and a 3:73 gear, as for suspension is stock i just got the car and just put the engine and trans in it and its a shift kit in the trans if that matters.... and i planned on doing mostly all work myself i want to me a engineer when i gets bought you guys age i reckon your older than me, so y not practice on my own stuff, but what i mean by street car is a car that sit nice on the Cobra R's i have but also light them bitches up with no problem on a light to light... no cage or gutting it out like 69fastback i consider that a race car lol

69fastback · January 23rd, 2012, 07:52 AM

It's not gutted. It will have every piece of stock interior, right down to the factory console and radio.

January 22nd, 2012, 09:39 PM	#1
93Lx.Conv5.0 Regular 1993 Lx Mustang Conv. Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Detroit Posts: 271 Blog Entries: 1 iTrader: 0 reviews	CYLINDER HEADS OK I'M CURRENTLY LOOKING FOR SOME HEADS AND WAS WONDERING DO YOU LOOK FOR THE HEADS WITH THE BIGGEST CC CHAMBERS AND BIGGEST CC INTAKE RUNNERS BASICALLY WITH THE BIGGEST SPECS? WHAT DO YOU LOOK FOR IN SHOPPING FOR CYLINDER HEADS?

January 22nd, 2012, 09:55 PM	#2
FastStang91Lx I Post Entirely Way Too Much 1991 Mustang LX 5.0 Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Minnesota Posts: 5,572 iTrader: 2 reviews	Quit yelling! Lol. Turn the caps lock off man. There is sooooooo much more to looking for heads than just that. I suggest you read on here a lot before you buy some. Combustion chamber cc will contribute to your compression ratio, intake cc will help determine your rpm range and power capabilities... Putting a really large intake cc head on a small cube motor will only let that motor really shine in the upper rpm range, possibly leaving you with a narrow powerband depending on the rest of your combination. __________________ Point made in less than a few hours with minimal response. http://www.moddedmustangs.com/forums...ml#post4465184

January 22nd, 2012, 10:04 PM	#4
69fastback Premium Member 1969 Mustang Mach 1 6.824@101.61 Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Oklahoma jackass, get to driving Posts: 5,565 iTrader: 0 reviews	Displacement, goal, budget.......... __________________ ./___ _ ____ ___ \. ( ]]] _ _ O _ _ [[[ ) \_ o _ _____ _ o _/ \|___\| ......... \|___\| http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HyYU3...e_gdata_player

January 22nd, 2012, 10:23 PM	#6
69fastback Premium Member 1969 Mustang Mach 1 6.824@101.61 Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Oklahoma jackass, get to driving Posts: 5,565 iTrader: 0 reviews	Ok, before you go throwing money at parts, you need a realistic goal, and a budget. Are you keeping it a 302? Going to stroke it later? Are you going to ditch that intake for a good one? Everything needs to work together, and you have to plan ahead. __________________ ./___ _ ____ ___ \. ( ]]] _ _ O _ _ [[[ ) \_ o _ _____ _ o _/ \|___\| ......... \|___\| http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HyYU3...e_gdata_player

January 22nd, 2012, 10:26 PM	#7
horsepowerjunkie Hardcore Enthusiast 1989 Black LX---Turbo Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: just outside Minot, ND Posts: 1,153 iTrader: 0 reviews	Trick Flow Twisted Wedge 170, AFR 165, Edelbrock Performer (1.9 intake), FRPP GT40X heads are all good starting points on a stock short block for a mild street car. While your in there, sell that B303 and get yourself a Trick Flow stage 1, Comp XE266HR, or Anderson N21 cam. Either one of those will make more power than the old B cam, plus alot more drivabuility! __________________ 89 LX Black, Boss 331, C4,T76BB, FAST EFI 82 Capri RS,89 5.0 HO,Comp XE266,TW 170,T5,etc. 73 Dart Sport 340, 410ci Bracket Brawler 72 Demon 340 4-speed 1 of 1667 01 Ram Quad Cab 03 Grizzley 660

January 22nd, 2012, 10:03 PM	#3
93Lx.Conv5.0 Regular 1993 Lx Mustang Conv. Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Detroit Posts: 271 Blog Entries: 1 iTrader: 0 reviews	lol so what you recommend some good sizes because i don't know at all.. I have gt40 upper and lower right now until i get different and a b303 cam... if that info helps. i would rather have some heads that helps the gt40 intakes perform better and the cam but not go backwards in the power range if i get better intakes that aren't compatible with the heads if thats makes any sense...

January 22nd, 2012, 10:11 PM	#5
93Lx.Conv5.0 Regular 1993 Lx Mustang Conv. Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Detroit Posts: 271 Blog Entries: 1 iTrader: 0 reviews	goal is to have a nice little street car with out breaking the bank...

January 22nd, 2012, 10:45 PM	#8
93Lx.Conv5.0 Regular 1993 Lx Mustang Conv. Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Detroit Posts: 271 Blog Entries: 1 iTrader: 0 reviews	plan on keeping it a 302... and what qualifies a 302 to be stock? having original pistons and crank?

January 22nd, 2012, 10:48 PM	#9
FastStang91Lx I Post Entirely Way Too Much 1991 Mustang LX 5.0 Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Minnesota Posts: 5,572 iTrader: 2 reviews	Shortblock is block and rotating assembly (pistons, rods, crank). Long block includes heads and sometimes other misc. parts. __________________ Point made in less than a few hours with minimal response. http://www.moddedmustangs.com/forums...ml#post4465184

January 22nd, 2012, 10:52 PM	#10
69fastback Premium Member 1969 Mustang Mach 1 6.824@101.61 Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Oklahoma jackass, get to driving Posts: 5,565 iTrader: 0 reviews	Do you have a realistic budget? __________________ ./___ _ ____ ___ \. ( ]]] _ _ O _ _ [[[ ) \_ o _ _____ _ o _/ \|___\| ......... \|___\| http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HyYU3...e_gdata_player

January 22nd, 2012, 10:55 PM	#11
FastStang91Lx I Post Entirely Way Too Much 1991 Mustang LX 5.0 Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Minnesota Posts: 5,572 iTrader: 2 reviews	Without breaking the bank doesn't mean much. To me a dollar is like a hundred. To 69Fastback... well he wipes his ass with hundred dollar bills. So if you get what I'm saying, tell us your budget and we can tell you what things to look for in that budget range to get you your biggest bang for the buck. If you can afford prime rib, we're not gonna suggest a McRib.... __________________ Point made in less than a few hours with minimal response. http://www.moddedmustangs.com/forums...ml#post4465184

January 22nd, 2012, 11:01 PM	#13
FastStang91Lx I Post Entirely Way Too Much 1991 Mustang LX 5.0 Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Minnesota Posts: 5,572 iTrader: 2 reviews	I knew you'd like that! __________________ Point made in less than a few hours with minimal response. http://www.moddedmustangs.com/forums...ml#post4465184

January 22nd, 2012, 11:03 PM	#14
93Lx.Conv5.0 Regular 1993 Lx Mustang Conv. Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Detroit Posts: 271 Blog Entries: 1 iTrader: 0 reviews	i don't have a budget at all... i was just going and adding... i see something i may want or need ill just buy it of try and save the money up until i can afford it... i never set a budget for myself because i don't know the price ranges of everything so i can't think of a number thats suitable... but if i just throw a number out there like 2 grand what can be done?

January 22nd, 2012, 11:18 PM	#15
FastStang91Lx I Post Entirely Way Too Much 1991 Mustang LX 5.0 Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Minnesota Posts: 5,572 iTrader: 2 reviews	2g's is a moderate budget that will allow you to do a nice used intake, used heads, all the supporting hardware, and new/used cam. Then you'll still need another 5-600 for a tune. See where I'm going with this. What are ALL the mods you have on the car currently. From motor to suspension. What is the amount of working cash that you have available right now. And most importantly when you say street car, that means no to very little track use, right? __________________ Point made in less than a few hours with minimal response. http://www.moddedmustangs.com/forums...ml#post4465184

January 22nd, 2012, 11:33 PM	#17
FastStang91Lx I Post Entirely Way Too Much 1991 Mustang LX 5.0 Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Minnesota Posts: 5,572 iTrader: 2 reviews	Mine's a street car too, but by the way he was talking, I figured that is what he meant, lol, not my interpretation of the meaning of street car. __________________ Point made in less than a few hours with minimal response. http://www.moddedmustangs.com/forums...ml#post4465184

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January 22nd, 2012, 11:43 PM	#18
69fastback Premium Member 1969 Mustang Mach 1 6.824@101.61 Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Oklahoma jackass, get to driving Posts: 5,565 iTrader: 0 reviews	See. Mine is still a "street car." lol. All about perception I know what you mean though. __________________ ./___ _ ____ ___ \. ( ]]] _ _ O _ _ [[[ ) \_ o _ _____ _ o _/ \|___\| ......... \|___\| http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HyYU3...e_gdata_player

January 23rd, 2012, 02:36 AM	#19
93Lx.Conv5.0 Regular 1993 Lx Mustang Conv. Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Detroit Posts: 271 Blog Entries: 1 iTrader: 0 reviews	well the only mods i have right now are a cold air intake, gt40 upper and lower, shorty heads, performance plugs and wired, msd cap, cam, exhaust, and a 3:73 gear, as for suspension is stock i just got the car and just put the engine and trans in it and its a shift kit in the trans if that matters.... and i planned on doing mostly all work myself i want to me a engineer when i gets bought you guys age i reckon your older than me, so y not practice on my own stuff, but what i mean by street car is a car that sit nice on the Cobra R's i have but also light them bitches up with no problem on a light to light... no cage or gutting it out like 69fastback i consider that a race car lol

January 23rd, 2012, 07:52 AM	#20
69fastback Premium Member 1969 Mustang Mach 1 6.824@101.61 Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Oklahoma jackass, get to driving Posts: 5,565 iTrader: 0 reviews	It's not gutted. It will have every piece of stock interior, right down to the factory console and radio. __________________ ./___ _ ____ ___ \. ( ]]] _ _ O _ _ [[[ ) \_ o _ _____ _ o _/ \|___\| ......... \|___\| http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HyYU3...e_gdata_player

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