About done with the Mod Motor games-Fox time

Scott2001GT · January 23rd, 2012, 01:42 PM

So I guessing none of you know me since I am never in here and drive a 2001 Mustang GT single turbo car and in the 99-04 section but I have had a change of heart! I was going to build my 2v but decided against it with the weight of the car and price for parts to do so...

So once the car is done here in a couple of months I will be searching to purchase a foxbody! I have never owned a pushrod engine so needless to say Im a noob all over again! Ill be looking for a v8 since I dont feel like swapping a 4cyl out and it will be an auto(auto guy here).

Plans the first season is...

Delete ac,power steering, power brakes, heat, rear seat, bumper supports, blower motor for ac and heat, pretty much anything that doesn't make it run.

I bought baseline uppers and lowers with strange 10 ways for my 01' but will instead put them in the fox along with a 33 spline full spool build rearend. Will be adding a tubular k member with coilovers, and subframes with bigs n' littles.

Next the trans will be built but haven't decided which direction for that yet.

Once the chassis and driveline is complete the power will be added

Twin 60's with Stainless Works up and forward headers with 3in downpipes. It will be a custom kit...the same guy who built my custom 2v mod kit.

Id thought Id stop by and say whats up...I will be in here more to learn about these cars!

Thanks,

Scott

Scott2001GT · January 23rd, 2012, 01:51 PM

The 2001...

69fastback · January 23rd, 2012, 01:51 PM

Sounds like you're wanting to build something serious. Just to throw something at you before you get started, you may want to look into a Dart block, or a stock 9.5 deck (351W) at minimum. Personally, if it were me, and I were going to build something with twin 60s, I'd get a Dart 9.5 deck.

The stock 302 block is good to roughly 450 rwhp, and that's with a good tune. There are some out there making more, and there are some out there breaking with less. The stock 9.5 block will get you to roughly 700 rwhp. Maybe more, maybe less, just depending on several factors.

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Scott2001GT · January 23rd, 2012, 01:58 PM

Thanks for the heads up! Engine combo is in the air.

331,347,363, or 408ci are all an option right now. Yes this car will be my 85% track and some street car. It will be caged for 8.50's and I want to run the 275 radial class.

I may build the engine first idk not sure yet. I kinda want to see what I can do with low to mid 400's hp on 7 to 8 psi or so with a safe tune and no weight. If it blows then build it..I have a second turbo car to drive

Who builds good budget shortblocks?

69fastback · January 23rd, 2012, 02:02 PM

I forsee a Dart block in your future. Lol

Scott2001GT · January 23rd, 2012, 02:03 PM

lol well I have issue to build a badass n/a engine since the base of a good turbo engine is badass n/a engine. I could probably save a lot of hassle and build a block first. I wish I would have done that with the mod motor. I hate worrying about if it will break or now

69fastback · January 23rd, 2012, 02:08 PM

For what you're talking about, even if I were going to build a stock block motor, I'd just build a 9.5 deck, and skip the short deck. A 351W swap is fairly cheap and easy, and a lot more capable.

Scott2001GT · January 23rd, 2012, 02:09 PM

so a 408ci you think?

StangBanger302 · January 23rd, 2012, 02:14 PM

Dart 408ci all the way. It'll easily handle 1200rwhp+ with the right internals and tune. The start to a good boost motor isn't necessarily a good N/A motor. Boost motors will tend to like low compression, differently gapped rings and a higher duration camshaft. Twin 60s would perform well with some 240cc TEA Highports, Super Victor EFI, 4.125 bore and BIG exhaust

e3sean · January 23rd, 2012, 02:16 PM

its not that much cheaper to just build a 2nd car espically a fox.

parts seem cheaper but they add up. you should switch your motor in your car to the forced induction cyote motor and adjust the turbo kit you have for that. less money,more driveability plenty of power.

coming from someone who has built a pretty decent fox with all the goodies including the dart iron eagle block 363 stroker jesel shaft mount rockers full chromoly cage...exc.exc..exc..... $40,000 later and now im gonna go backwards with it putting it back on the street. unless you plan to do nothing but race it at the track to compete(which maybe thats your plan..?), whats the point to having 1000 hp. just to say you have 1000 hp?

but more power to you... hell maybe ill trade you cars save us both time and money lol..

Scott2001GT · January 23rd, 2012, 02:17 PM

I'd like to be in the mid 9's cr...with the right octane or meth injector you can run higher cr. Which is better of boost throttle response and quicker spool...Ill look into the 408ci Dart

ryanw · January 23rd, 2012, 02:19 PM

Welcome to the dark side.

StangBanger302 · January 23rd, 2012, 02:19 PM

Mid 9s is still low when you consider N/A cars on race fuel are running fuggin 14 and up...

Scott2001GT · January 23rd, 2012, 02:21 PM

On I dont need a 1000hp! I just want a strong running track car that is lighter and not gut the newer car out...

All I really want is a 9.50s car that can be on the street too...the 2v it heavy and will take quite a bit of power to do so esp with a single. I could go 4v or 5.4 but then I have to change to much and mess with to much crap to do so...the TFS heads are 2600 with cams...I want a budget build fox...Ill be looking at the same price either way but I want gut a fox and not my 2001 GT that is mint interior and just to nice to keep deleting stuff off it. This way also I can build a car and still have a fun car to drive and not be done for 2 years like this one!

Scott2001GT · January 23rd, 2012, 02:22 PM

Originally Posted by ryanw

Welcome to the dark side.

thanks

Scott2001GT · January 23rd, 2012, 02:23 PM

Originally Posted by StangBanger302

Mid 9s is still low when you consider N/A cars on race fuel are running fuggin 14 and up...

no doubt. I will be atleast 9.5:1 but I'd like to see 10.1:1 to 10.5:1 with meth or 110

Pushrod91 · January 23rd, 2012, 02:27 PM

stroked 460 na. with a c6

Scott2001GT · January 23rd, 2012, 02:28 PM

lol I would go n/a but I LOVE turbo's and I have always wanted a twin turbo car!!

StangBanger302 · January 23rd, 2012, 02:29 PM

Talk to Woody at FORDSTROKERS.COM. He sells DIY dart shortblocks for a fraction of the price than that of an assembled one. Do that along with some used AFR 205s (cheap for the performance), Anderson blower cam and a super victor intake and you got mid 9s EASILY. With all the right supporting mods of course.

Scott2001GT · January 23rd, 2012, 02:31 PM

THanks for the heads up! Thats sound like what I need! A budget mid 9's fox just would be fun and I can afford. I cant build a 7's car right now with my jobs. But I'll have the fox ready for it some day!

January 23rd, 2012, 01:42 PM	#1
Scott2001GT BYAHHHH! 2001 Mustang GT 13.874 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Missouri Posts: 14,793 Blog Entries: 1 iTrader: 3 reviews	About done with the Mod Motor games-Fox time So I guessing none of you know me since I am never in here and drive a 2001 Mustang GT single turbo car and in the 99-04 section but I have had a change of heart! I was going to build my 2v but decided against it with the weight of the car and price for parts to do so... So once the car is done here in a couple of months I will be searching to purchase a foxbody! I have never owned a pushrod engine so needless to say Im a noob all over again! Ill be looking for a v8 since I dont feel like swapping a 4cyl out and it will be an auto(auto guy here). Plans the first season is... Delete ac,power steering, power brakes, heat, rear seat, bumper supports, blower motor for ac and heat, pretty much anything that doesn't make it run. I bought baseline uppers and lowers with strange 10 ways for my 01' but will instead put them in the fox along with a 33 spline full spool build rearend. Will be adding a tubular k member with coilovers, and subframes with bigs n' littles. Next the trans will be built but haven't decided which direction for that yet. Once the chassis and driveline is complete the power will be added Twin 60's with Stainless Works up and forward headers with 3in downpipes. It will be a custom kit...the same guy who built my custom 2v mod kit. Id thought Id stop by and say whats up...I will be in here more to learn about these cars! Thanks, Scott __________________ Precision Turbo\|TurboSmart\|TeamZ\|Strange\|Hellion\|BBK\|SCT\|Edge Converters\|Fairbanks\|CG Fabrications\|Treadstone

January 23rd, 2012, 01:51 PM	#2
Scott2001GT BYAHHHH! 2001 Mustang GT 13.874 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Missouri Posts: 14,793 Blog Entries: 1 iTrader: 3 reviews	The 2001... __________________ Precision Turbo\|TurboSmart\|TeamZ\|Strange\|Hellion\|BBK\|SCT\|Edge Converters\|Fairbanks\|CG Fabrications\|Treadstone

January 23rd, 2012, 01:51 PM	#3
69fastback Premium Member 1969 Mustang Mach 1 6.824@101.61 Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Oklahoma jackass, get to driving Posts: 5,565 iTrader: 0 reviews	Sounds like you're wanting to build something serious. Just to throw something at you before you get started, you may want to look into a Dart block, or a stock 9.5 deck (351W) at minimum. Personally, if it were me, and I were going to build something with twin 60s, I'd get a Dart 9.5 deck. The stock 302 block is good to roughly 450 rwhp, and that's with a good tune. There are some out there making more, and there are some out there breaking with less. The stock 9.5 block will get you to roughly 700 rwhp. Maybe more, maybe less, just depending on several factors. Welcome to the fast car section of the the site __________________ ./___ _ ____ ___ \. ( ]]] _ _ O _ _ [[[ ) \_ o _ _____ _ o _/ \|___\| ......... \|___\| http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HyYU3...e_gdata_player

January 23rd, 2012, 01:58 PM	#4
Scott2001GT BYAHHHH! 2001 Mustang GT 13.874 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Missouri Posts: 14,793 Blog Entries: 1 iTrader: 3 reviews	Thanks for the heads up! Engine combo is in the air. 331,347,363, or 408ci are all an option right now. Yes this car will be my 85% track and some street car. It will be caged for 8.50's and I want to run the 275 radial class. I may build the engine first idk not sure yet. I kinda want to see what I can do with low to mid 400's hp on 7 to 8 psi or so with a safe tune and no weight. If it blows then build it..I have a second turbo car to drive Who builds good budget shortblocks? __________________ Precision Turbo\|TurboSmart\|TeamZ\|Strange\|Hellion\|BBK\|SCT\|Edge Converters\|Fairbanks\|CG Fabrications\|Treadstone

January 23rd, 2012, 02:02 PM	#5
69fastback Premium Member 1969 Mustang Mach 1 6.824@101.61 Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Oklahoma jackass, get to driving Posts: 5,565 iTrader: 0 reviews	I forsee a Dart block in your future. Lol __________________ ./___ _ ____ ___ \. ( ]]] _ _ O _ _ [[[ ) \_ o _ _____ _ o _/ \|___\| ......... \|___\| http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HyYU3...e_gdata_player

January 23rd, 2012, 02:03 PM	#6
Scott2001GT BYAHHHH! 2001 Mustang GT 13.874 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Missouri Posts: 14,793 Blog Entries: 1 iTrader: 3 reviews	lol well I have issue to build a badass n/a engine since the base of a good turbo engine is badass n/a engine. I could probably save a lot of hassle and build a block first. I wish I would have done that with the mod motor. I hate worrying about if it will break or now __________________ Precision Turbo\|TurboSmart\|TeamZ\|Strange\|Hellion\|BBK\|SCT\|Edge Converters\|Fairbanks\|CG Fabrications\|Treadstone

January 23rd, 2012, 02:08 PM	#7
69fastback Premium Member 1969 Mustang Mach 1 6.824@101.61 Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Oklahoma jackass, get to driving Posts: 5,565 iTrader: 0 reviews	For what you're talking about, even if I were going to build a stock block motor, I'd just build a 9.5 deck, and skip the short deck. A 351W swap is fairly cheap and easy, and a lot more capable. __________________ ./___ _ ____ ___ \. ( ]]] _ _ O _ _ [[[ ) \_ o _ _____ _ o _/ \|___\| ......... \|___\| http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HyYU3...e_gdata_player

January 23rd, 2012, 02:09 PM	#8
Scott2001GT BYAHHHH! 2001 Mustang GT 13.874 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Missouri Posts: 14,793 Blog Entries: 1 iTrader: 3 reviews	so a 408ci you think? __________________ Precision Turbo\|TurboSmart\|TeamZ\|Strange\|Hellion\|BBK\|SCT\|Edge Converters\|Fairbanks\|CG Fabrications\|Treadstone

January 23rd, 2012, 02:14 PM	#9
StangBanger302 Hardcore Enthusiast 1992 Mustang LX 13.0 @ 105 Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: New York Posts: 2,230 iTrader: 0 reviews	Dart 408ci all the way. It'll easily handle 1200rwhp+ with the right internals and tune. The start to a good boost motor isn't necessarily a good N/A motor. Boost motors will tend to like low compression, differently gapped rings and a higher duration camshaft. Twin 60s would perform well with some 240cc TEA Highports, Super Victor EFI, 4.125 bore and BIG exhaust __________________ As I lay rubber down the street I pray for traction I can keep But if I spin, and begin to slide Please dear God, protect my ride

January 23rd, 2012, 02:16 PM	#10
e3sean I Post Entirely Way Too Much 1988 lx 9.68@142 Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: goldsboro NC Posts: 5,609 iTrader: 0 reviews	its not that much cheaper to just build a 2nd car espically a fox. parts seem cheaper but they add up. you should switch your motor in your car to the forced induction cyote motor and adjust the turbo kit you have for that. less money,more driveability plenty of power. coming from someone who has built a pretty decent fox with all the goodies including the dart iron eagle block 363 stroker jesel shaft mount rockers full chromoly cage...exc.exc..exc..... $40,000 later and now im gonna go backwards with it putting it back on the street. unless you plan to do nothing but race it at the track to compete(which maybe thats your plan..?), whats the point to having 1000 hp. just to say you have 1000 hp? but more power to you... hell maybe ill trade you cars save us both time and money lol.. __________________

January 23rd, 2012, 02:17 PM	#11
Scott2001GT BYAHHHH! 2001 Mustang GT 13.874 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Missouri Posts: 14,793 Blog Entries: 1 iTrader: 3 reviews	I'd like to be in the mid 9's cr...with the right octane or meth injector you can run higher cr. Which is better of boost throttle response and quicker spool...Ill look into the 408ci Dart __________________ Precision Turbo\|TurboSmart\|TeamZ\|Strange\|Hellion\|BBK\|SCT\|Edge Converters\|Fairbanks\|CG Fabrications\|Treadstone

January 23rd, 2012, 02:19 PM	#12
ryanw I Post Entirely Way Too Much 1991 Ford Mustang GT Join Date: May 2007 Location: San Diego, California Posts: 6,063 iTrader: 0 reviews	Welcome to the dark side. __________________ DART 331ci stroker, AFR 185 heads, Trick Flow R intake, Accufab 70mm tb, 75mm pro m Maf, 30lb injectors, jba headers, 2 1/2" x pipe flowmaster super 10 mufflers, 255 fuel pump, 3:27 gears

January 23rd, 2012, 02:21 PM	#14
Scott2001GT BYAHHHH! 2001 Mustang GT 13.874 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Missouri Posts: 14,793 Blog Entries: 1 iTrader: 3 reviews	On I dont need a 1000hp! I just want a strong running track car that is lighter and not gut the newer car out... All I really want is a 9.50s car that can be on the street too...the 2v it heavy and will take quite a bit of power to do so esp with a single. I could go 4v or 5.4 but then I have to change to much and mess with to much crap to do so...the TFS heads are 2600 with cams...I want a budget build fox...Ill be looking at the same price either way but I want gut a fox and not my 2001 GT that is mint interior and just to nice to keep deleting stuff off it. This way also I can build a car and still have a fun car to drive and not be done for 2 years like this one! __________________ Precision Turbo\|TurboSmart\|TeamZ\|Strange\|Hellion\|BBK\|SCT\|Edge Converters\|Fairbanks\|CG Fabrications\|Treadstone

January 23rd, 2012, 02:27 PM	#17
Pushrod91 Lets Just Touch Tips. 91 fox Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Under your bed. Posts: 553 iTrader: 0 reviews	stroked 460 na. with a c6

January 23rd, 2012, 02:28 PM	#18
Scott2001GT BYAHHHH! 2001 Mustang GT 13.874 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Missouri Posts: 14,793 Blog Entries: 1 iTrader: 3 reviews	lol I would go n/a but I LOVE turbo's and I have always wanted a twin turbo car!! __________________ Precision Turbo\|TurboSmart\|TeamZ\|Strange\|Hellion\|BBK\|SCT\|Edge Converters\|Fairbanks\|CG Fabrications\|Treadstone

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January 23rd, 2012, 02:29 PM	#19
StangBanger302 Hardcore Enthusiast 1992 Mustang LX 13.0 @ 105 Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: New York Posts: 2,230 iTrader: 0 reviews	Talk to Woody at FORDSTROKERS.COM. He sells DIY dart shortblocks for a fraction of the price than that of an assembled one. Do that along with some used AFR 205s (cheap for the performance), Anderson blower cam and a super victor intake and you got mid 9s EASILY. With all the right supporting mods of course. __________________ As I lay rubber down the street I pray for traction I can keep But if I spin, and begin to slide Please dear God, protect my ride

January 23rd, 2012, 02:31 PM	#20
Scott2001GT BYAHHHH! 2001 Mustang GT 13.874 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Missouri Posts: 14,793 Blog Entries: 1 iTrader: 3 reviews	THanks for the heads up! Thats sound like what I need! A budget mid 9's fox just would be fun and I can afford. I cant build a 7's car right now with my jobs. But I'll have the fox ready for it some day! __________________ Precision Turbo\|TurboSmart\|TeamZ\|Strange\|Hellion\|BBK\|SCT\|Edge Converters\|Fairbanks\|CG Fabrications\|Treadstone

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