Timing issue

ReefBlue1994 · January 24th, 2012, 10:59 PM

I accidentally tried to time my car with the gray chip installed that shows the computer the timing,it's located on a plugin right by the distributor,do you know what I'm talking about?i was just wondering of this did any harm to my motor,do I just need to take the chip out and retime it and everything will be okay?
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ryanw · January 24th, 2012, 11:05 PM

Just pull the spout connector out and retime it, and youll be fine

FastStang91Lx · January 24th, 2012, 11:10 PM

No harm done. You actually just retarded it from where it should be.

ReefBlue1994 · January 24th, 2012, 11:37 PM

Okay thanks a lot guys.i accidentally moved it when replacing my t stat and housing.looks like I'll need to pick up a timing wrench too.

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FastStang91Lx · January 24th, 2012, 11:49 PM

You don't need a timing wrench. Hell, you can do it with a regular wrench or a ratchet, extension, and swivel.

ReefBlue1994 · January 25th, 2012, 12:03 AM

I haven't been able to find anything that works!whats the highest you guys set your timing at 14?

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FastStang91Lx · January 25th, 2012, 06:40 PM

14 normally. Are you sure your balancer hasn't spun on the rubber at all?

ReefBlue1994 · January 25th, 2012, 07:12 PM

I got it fixed today

haha thanks guys

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Chris951 · January 25th, 2012, 07:36 PM

I got mine at 15 degrees. Could probably go higher.

ReefBlue1994 · January 25th, 2012, 09:29 PM

Nice mine idles right below 1000 but sometimes it stays at 1200 and won't go down...should I be worried?no signs of pinging at all.

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Chris951 · January 25th, 2012, 09:36 PM

Mine idles at 650

fogged306 · January 25th, 2012, 09:39 PM

Factory target idle is 672 RPM. Stock tachs are off so you can't really go by them, but if you have an aftermarket tach and are idling at above 1k, you've got an issue. Could be something as simple as needing the base idle reset, or could be a vac leak, or too much timing.

ReefBlue1994 · January 25th, 2012, 09:44 PM

I don't have an aftermarket,but whenever I time it,it adjusts the idle too...pinging is the only real thing to be worried about right?ill keep you guys posted in case I need to troubleshoot

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grannycar · January 26th, 2012, 12:42 PM

14* for stock heads 18* with tf tw heads

ReefBlue1994 · January 26th, 2012, 12:48 PM

That high idle worries me but I'm holding to the fact that there's no pinging and that the stock tach isn't accurate..

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fogged306 · January 26th, 2012, 03:04 PM

Advancing the timing will increase your idle. If you've got no pinging, you're not doing any harm. Try resetting your base idle and see how that goes. If you don't know how, there's a sticky at the top of this forum with a link to the procedure.

ReefBlue1994 · January 26th, 2012, 04:21 PM

Thanks

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January 24th, 2012, 10:59 PM	#1
ReefBlue1994 Regular 1993 Mustang GT Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Wfalls, Texas Posts: 344 iTrader: 0 reviews	Timing issue I accidentally tried to time my car with the gray chip installed that shows the computer the timing,it's located on a plugin right by the distributor,do you know what I'm talking about?i was just wondering of this did any harm to my motor,do I just need to take the chip out and retime it and everything will be okay? Sent from my Autoguide iPhone app Sent from my Autoguide iPhone app __________________ 1993 Mustang GT (Reef Blue on platinum) 105k Miles, still strong. BBK CAI Dual Flowmasters Hurst Shortshifter Smog Delete Gatorback pulleys. FULL LED Tailights NEWEST ADDITION: Eaton M90 supercharger kit

January 24th, 2012, 11:05 PM	#2
ryanw I Post Entirely Way Too Much 1991 Ford Mustang GT Join Date: May 2007 Location: San Diego, California Posts: 6,063 iTrader: 0 reviews	Just pull the spout connector out and retime it, and youll be fine __________________ DART 331ci stroker, AFR 185 heads, Trick Flow R intake, Accufab 70mm tb, 75mm pro m Maf, 30lb injectors, jba headers, 2 1/2" x pipe flowmaster super 10 mufflers, 255 fuel pump, 3:27 gears

January 24th, 2012, 11:10 PM	#3
FastStang91Lx I Post Entirely Way Too Much 1991 Mustang LX 5.0 Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Minnesota Posts: 5,572 iTrader: 2 reviews	No harm done. You actually just retarded it from where it should be. __________________ Point made in less than a few hours with minimal response. http://www.moddedmustangs.com/forums...ml#post4465184

January 24th, 2012, 11:37 PM	#4
ReefBlue1994 Regular 1993 Mustang GT Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Wfalls, Texas Posts: 344 iTrader: 0 reviews	Okay thanks a lot guys.i accidentally moved it when replacing my t stat and housing.looks like I'll need to pick up a timing wrench too. Sent from my Autoguide iPhone app __________________ 1993 Mustang GT (Reef Blue on platinum) 105k Miles, still strong. BBK CAI Dual Flowmasters Hurst Shortshifter Smog Delete Gatorback pulleys. FULL LED Tailights NEWEST ADDITION: Eaton M90 supercharger kit

January 24th, 2012, 11:49 PM	#5
FastStang91Lx I Post Entirely Way Too Much 1991 Mustang LX 5.0 Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Minnesota Posts: 5,572 iTrader: 2 reviews	You don't need a timing wrench. Hell, you can do it with a regular wrench or a ratchet, extension, and swivel. __________________ Point made in less than a few hours with minimal response. http://www.moddedmustangs.com/forums...ml#post4465184

January 25th, 2012, 12:03 AM	#6
ReefBlue1994 Regular 1993 Mustang GT Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Wfalls, Texas Posts: 344 iTrader: 0 reviews	I haven't been able to find anything that works!whats the highest you guys set your timing at 14? Sent from my Autoguide iPhone app __________________ 1993 Mustang GT (Reef Blue on platinum) 105k Miles, still strong. BBK CAI Dual Flowmasters Hurst Shortshifter Smog Delete Gatorback pulleys. FULL LED Tailights NEWEST ADDITION: Eaton M90 supercharger kit

January 25th, 2012, 06:40 PM	#7
FastStang91Lx I Post Entirely Way Too Much 1991 Mustang LX 5.0 Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Minnesota Posts: 5,572 iTrader: 2 reviews	14 normally. Are you sure your balancer hasn't spun on the rubber at all? __________________ Point made in less than a few hours with minimal response. http://www.moddedmustangs.com/forums...ml#post4465184

January 25th, 2012, 07:12 PM	#8
ReefBlue1994 Regular 1993 Mustang GT Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Wfalls, Texas Posts: 344 iTrader: 0 reviews	I got it fixed today haha thanks guys Sent from my Autoguide iPhone app __________________ 1993 Mustang GT (Reef Blue on platinum) 105k Miles, still strong. BBK CAI Dual Flowmasters Hurst Shortshifter Smog Delete Gatorback pulleys. FULL LED Tailights NEWEST ADDITION: Eaton M90 supercharger kit

January 25th, 2012, 07:36 PM	#9
Chris951 Hardcore Enthusiast 1991 mustang 5.0 Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Mesa, AZ Posts: 1,938 iTrader: 0 reviews	I got mine at 15 degrees. Could probably go higher.

January 25th, 2012, 09:29 PM	#10
ReefBlue1994 Regular 1993 Mustang GT Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Wfalls, Texas Posts: 344 iTrader: 0 reviews	Nice mine idles right below 1000 but sometimes it stays at 1200 and won't go down...should I be worried?no signs of pinging at all. Sent from my Autoguide iPhone app __________________ 1993 Mustang GT (Reef Blue on platinum) 105k Miles, still strong. BBK CAI Dual Flowmasters Hurst Shortshifter Smog Delete Gatorback pulleys. FULL LED Tailights NEWEST ADDITION: Eaton M90 supercharger kit

January 25th, 2012, 09:36 PM	#11
Chris951 Hardcore Enthusiast 1991 mustang 5.0 Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Mesa, AZ Posts: 1,938 iTrader: 0 reviews	Mine idles at 650

January 25th, 2012, 09:39 PM	#12
fogged306 MM Fanatic 89 GT Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: NY Posts: 4,875 iTrader: 2 reviews	Factory target idle is 672 RPM. Stock tachs are off so you can't really go by them, but if you have an aftermarket tach and are idling at above 1k, you've got an issue. Could be something as simple as needing the base idle reset, or could be a vac leak, or too much timing.

January 25th, 2012, 09:44 PM	#13
ReefBlue1994 Regular 1993 Mustang GT Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Wfalls, Texas Posts: 344 iTrader: 0 reviews	I don't have an aftermarket,but whenever I time it,it adjusts the idle too...pinging is the only real thing to be worried about right?ill keep you guys posted in case I need to troubleshoot Sent from my Autoguide iPhone app __________________ 1993 Mustang GT (Reef Blue on platinum) 105k Miles, still strong. BBK CAI Dual Flowmasters Hurst Shortshifter Smog Delete Gatorback pulleys. FULL LED Tailights NEWEST ADDITION: Eaton M90 supercharger kit

January 26th, 2012, 12:42 PM	#14
grannycar Newbie Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 14 iTrader: 0 reviews	14* for stock heads 18* with tf tw heads

January 26th, 2012, 12:48 PM	#15
ReefBlue1994 Regular 1993 Mustang GT Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Wfalls, Texas Posts: 344 iTrader: 0 reviews	That high idle worries me but I'm holding to the fact that there's no pinging and that the stock tach isn't accurate.. Sent from my Autoguide iPhone app __________________ 1993 Mustang GT (Reef Blue on platinum) 105k Miles, still strong. BBK CAI Dual Flowmasters Hurst Shortshifter Smog Delete Gatorback pulleys. FULL LED Tailights NEWEST ADDITION: Eaton M90 supercharger kit

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January 26th, 2012, 03:04 PM	#16
fogged306 MM Fanatic 89 GT Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: NY Posts: 4,875 iTrader: 2 reviews	Advancing the timing will increase your idle. If you've got no pinging, you're not doing any harm. Try resetting your base idle and see how that goes. If you don't know how, there's a sticky at the top of this forum with a link to the procedure.

January 26th, 2012, 04:21 PM	#17
ReefBlue1994 Regular 1993 Mustang GT Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Wfalls, Texas Posts: 344 iTrader: 0 reviews	Thanks Sent from my Autoguide iPhone app __________________ 1993 Mustang GT (Reef Blue on platinum) 105k Miles, still strong. BBK CAI Dual Flowmasters Hurst Shortshifter Smog Delete Gatorback pulleys. FULL LED Tailights NEWEST ADDITION: Eaton M90 supercharger kit