[70-yenko-nova]

I had a high 10 second malibu back about a year go but it wasnt streetable for shit 4200 stall with a strange spool. However I was going to start looking for an older 4 eye (notch preferable) for pretty cheap and going to make a low12 high 11 second car with potential to grow to 10 second car without being a pain in the ass like the bu was. Something able to drive 70+ miles to the track if need be without even THINKING of "will this go wrong" . i know this will be a huge open debate but im just curious.
302/351
Supercharger/Turbo/Nitrous
etc
thank you all


Also for cheap as possible without sacrificing responsibility example Hellionss 5000$ turbo kit vs On3's 1500 and B&G Turbo 2000+ hellion is too much a name.. on3 seems almsot TOO cheap and B&G seems good.

[Fiacco819]

You can build a bolt-on 302 and hit high 11's, Then invest some time and money to move shiftpoints to 7-7.5k RPM and run high 10's. Doing it N/A makes it respectable.

[70-yenko-nova]

respectable yes but n/a builds aren't normally as streetable (in my own experience) because your motor can never really be turned down. plus i was hoping to never get my revs NEAR that high for simple fact of revs kill motors.

[69fastback]

Originally Posted by Fiacco819 You can build a bolt-on 302 and hit high 11's, Then invest some time and money to move shiftpoints to 7-7.5k RPM and run high 10's. Doing it N/A makes it respectable.

I'm gong to say it would cost $6000+ to build an engine to that would turn that many RPMs. You're talking about a HIGH dollar valvetrain, with really good heads, and intake, and the stock block would not put up with it long. RPMs kill engines. There are a lot cheaper ways to build a car to go 10s.

A stock 302, with a Trick Flow top end kit will do 11s, and you should lose around a second on a 100 shot. Even cheaper than that, GT40 junk, with a decent cam is capable of high 11s, if you can drive.

[Fiacco819]

That's why I said with tIme and money, it can go 10's. My 12 flat notch n/a is perfectly fine as a daily driver. Gets better miladge than my pickup even. Shifting at 6k is still below factory 6200 rpm limiter and could be built for roughly 1500 if used parts and self labored. Should even hit mid to high 11's. And yea hit it with spray and the only limit is block rating

[69fastback]

7500 RPMs is way more destructive than a 100 shot.


I don't really get into the whole "it ran this, BUT it should run faster" stuff. Mine should go 10s N/A, but it's just ran a measly 11.3, so that's what it runs. An 11.3. If you do 12 flat, why does it still say 12.53 in your profile? Just curious?

[StangBanger302]

Fastback nailed it. Trick flow top end kit should run 12.0s all day long with a bad driver. Add in a conservative 100-125 shot and 10.90s can be had for cheap! Or, you can get used Trick Flow heads (800$), custom cam (325$), trick flow r-intake (350$) with full exhaust (300$) and some 4:10s and run fatser than 11.50s if the rest of your car is up to it.

[Fiacco819]

I'm not talking a big game about my numbers, they don't matter in this post so don't get hung up on that. My point was simply for 1500, you can hit high 11's low 12's n/a. And that if you want to stay n/a, it costs money and time to hit 10's. I also wasn't bad mouthing spray, simple stated anything over 450hp is risking the block no matter what adder you have

[StangBanger302]

Originally Posted by 69fastback 7500 RPMs is way more destructive than a 100 shot. I don't really get into the whole "it ran this, BUT it should run faster" stuff. Mine should go 10s N/A, but it's just ran a measly 11.3, so that's what it runs. An 11.3. If you do 12 flat, why does it still say 12.53 in your profile? Just curious?

I was wondering the same thing.

[Fiacco819]

Because 12.5 is my personal best, 12.09 was the cars best with an experienced driver. So once again, don't get hung up on my times. Look past that fact and stay on OP's topic / question. We're all entitled to our own suggestion, don't need to hate on mine for suggesting a cheap n/a build

[whiteboycustom]

408,good suspension,weight reduction......still reliable to daily drive or long distances, but being a older car issues can pop up anywhere

[69fastback]

Originally Posted by Fiacco819 Because 12.5 is my personal best, 12.09 was the cars best with an experienced driver. So once again, don't get hung up on my times. Look past that fact and stay on OP's topic / question. We're all entitled to our own suggestion, don't need to hate on mine for suggesting a cheap n/a build

Sorry, I took your response as a suggestion to build something that would spin to 7500 RPMs, which is far from a cheap build, and completely unnecessary for the goal.

[70-yenko-nova]

4.10 seems like stupid high gearing too me.. just my opinion.. another problem.. seeing as tko's stupid fucking expensive i was going to use a bulletproof c4 (or a toploader if possible). Im more set on a nitrous set up personally and when you say TF top end.. what exactly do you mean.

[whiteboycustom]

Originally Posted by 70-yenko-nova 4.10 seems like stupid high gearing too me.. just my opinion.. another problem.. seeing as tko's stupid fucking expensive i was going to use a bulletproof c4 (or a toploader if possible). Im more set on a nitrous set up personally and when you say TF top end.. what exactly do you mean.

TRICK FLOW

[Fiacco819]

Trick flow top end kit, comes with aluminum heads, intake, cam. Pretty much everything youll need

[StangBanger302]

Trick Flow top end kit. Comes with Cylinder heads, camshaft, intake manifolds, timing chain, gaskets, rockers etc.

[StangBanger302]

Originally Posted by 70-yenko-nova 4.10 seems like stupid high gearing too me.. just my opinion.. another problem.. seeing as tko's stupid fucking expensive i was going to use a bulletproof c4 (or a toploader if possible). Im more set on a nitrous set up personally and when you say TF top end.. what exactly do you mean.

If you're doing a C4 I would NOT suggest getting less than 4:10s

[70-yenko-nova]

whys not less then 4.10's? would it even cruise on the highway?

[95StangMX]

4.10's are actually a pretty low gear, not high....They run good in an auto with overdrive NA but if you are going with a c4 and thinking to do some kind of power adder I would go with 3.73's I know there is going to be a big debate on this topic so just for the record I am saying "I" would go with....my opinion!!

[StangBanger302]

I wouldn't suggest an automatic from the get-go. I'm more of a manual guy myself And I wouldn't go less than 4:10s because you have 3 ratios to go through in the quarter mile instead of 4 like us 5 speed guys. IF I were to do an auto, it would definitely be a built AOD. You still have overdrive and it bolts right in to a fox.