[ryanw]

I think my clutch cables worn out, so i was just looking around, and i must have been living under a rock but have you all seen and used the 2 and 3 position quadrants...if you dont know what im talking about heres a link 79-04 Ford Mustang Clutch Cable Quadrant & Quick Click Firewall Adjuster 3pc Kit | eBay

GRANATELLI Adj. Clutch Cable & Quadrant 1979-95 Mustang (802735001563) | eBay

Whats the point of the exra positions ? Any feed back on them ? I already have an aluminum quadrant but its the normal one position style.

Also if i install a fire wall ajuster, do i need to remove the black rubber bushing from the clutch cable ? ( the part that normally rest on the fire wall )

Any advice weather to get an ajustable cable with the fire wall ajuster or a non ajustable cable with a fire wall ajuster ? Im leaning towards both be ajustable, seems like id get more life out of the cable


Any advice on which brands to get, would be helpful

Thanks

[ALEXLOPEZ62188]

The Maximum Motorsports, And Ford Racing cables have both been good to me...
i personally use the FRPP one still and it is adjustable. same with the MM one.
I believe the positions on the quadrant change where the clutch grabs.
example, if you put the cable on the first hook, closest to driver, then the clutch will grab with pedal closer to the floor.
if you set it on the second hook, itll grab closer to the pedal being halfway off the floor..

[Notcho]

The steeda quadrant I have has 2 hooks. If you are using the cable that adjusts at the end under the car, then you use the hook at the end of the quadrant (you have to pull more cable to hook it).

If you use the same adjustable cable and you have a firewall adjuster too, the cable is going to be shorter (because the adjuster is taking up that extra length) and you have to use the hook that's closer to the front of the quadrant (don't pull cable as far to hook it). This is my best guess.

The stock cables are not adjustable.. that's because the stock quadrants were ratcheting quadrants.. when the cable was loose, you could pull up on the clutch pedal, and it would ratchet up, thus tightening the cable. But the stock quadrant is junk.. it's plastic, and 20+ year old plastic is really brittle. Add a fresh heavy-ish clutch, and it'll snap.

[ryanw]

Oh....

When i put in my new engine i just reused the old ajustable cable. When i have the nut tightened more then half way the clutch doesnt grab untill the pedel is all the way up. When i have the nut all most all the way out it grabs when pedal half way up, which is normal, but im running out of threads, to loosen the nut, not sure if im ajusting it wrong or its a sign of the cable needing to be replaced.

From some of the videos ive seen on youtube it shows the nut on the cable being in the center of the threads.

Any way thanks for your input alex and notcho, does any one else have advice or answers to my questions.

[jessemachone]

I use the ford racing cable (adjustable at the trans)

I have an aluminum quadrant. (brand unknown - it was there when i got the car) I don't know what hook I'm using though as my buddy installed that side for me.... he was bored and wanted to do it.

I also have a fire wall adjuster. (brand unknown - it was there when I got the car) I cut the rubber bumper thingus off of it (the part that would sit against the fire wall) and let the white-ish piece rest against the adjuster. I would say that I am at mid-adjustment under the car. The fire wall adjuster is nice because it lets you adjust the cable for stretch and clutch wear without getting under the car.

[grannycar]

maximum motorsports is the only aftermarket cable and quadrant ill use again.

[ryanw]

Originally Posted by ryanw Oh.... When i put in my new engine i just reused the old ajustable cable. When i have the nut tightened more then half way the clutch doesnt grab untill the pedel is all the way up. When i have the nut all most all the way out it grabs when pedal half way up, which is normal, but im running out of threads, to loosen the nut, not sure if im ajusting it wrong or its a sign of the cable needing to be replaced. From some of the videos ive seen on youtube it shows the nut on the cable being in the center of the threads. Any way thanks for your input alex and notcho, does any one else have advice or answers to my questions.

Does this sound like i need a new cable.....it doesnt make sence to me, id think that if my cable was stretching then id have to keep tightening the nut up, but it seems for the right pedal hight(where it grabs at) i need to loosen the nut, if im remembering i only have around a 1/2-3/4 of an inch left before the nut comes off the cable it self

[jessemachone]

Sounds about where mine is adjusted to. If I were you, I'd leave it be and have a spare cable on standby. That's how I roll. If you look around at quadrants, you'll find a company that went out of their way to make a smooth transition for the cable at the quadrant. Many quadrants have a sharp edge that can cut into the cable. When you do get a quadrant, you may even be able to radius the transition yourself w a dremel.

[ryanw]

Good to know...

[mt.]

Originally Posted by grannycar maximum motorsports is the only aftermarket cable and quadrant ill use again.

+1

[Granatelli]

Originally Posted by ryanw I think my clutch cables worn out, so i was just looking around, and i must have been living under a rock but have you all seen and used the 2 and 3 position quadrants...if you dont know what im talking about heres a link 79-04 Ford Mustang Clutch Cable Quadrant & Quick Click Firewall Adjuster 3pc Kit | eBay GRANATELLI Adj. Clutch Cable & Quadrant 1979-95 Mustang (802735001563) | eBay Whats the point of the exra positions ? Any feed back on them ? I already have an aluminum quadrant but its the normal one position style. Also if i install a fire wall ajuster, do i need to remove the black rubber bushing from the clutch cable ? ( the part that normally rest on the fire wall ) Any advice weather to get an ajustable cable with the fire wall ajuster or a non ajustable cable with a fire wall ajuster ? Im leaning towards both be ajustable, seems like id get more life out of the cable Any advice on which brands to get, would be helpful Thanks

The Granatelli system is a Double hook - Therefore it offers the standard pedal travel and quick throw peddle travel all built into one - the triple hook design is just for looks - as you can only use the front 2 positions

As for adjustment - the kit Speed Unlimited is offering is perfect for you - sorry for the delayed reply

[ryans88gt]

Use whatever hook and whatever cable setting (ford cable is the best). What matters is that you have about a dimes width of free play in the cable at the firewall adjuster when correctly adjusted. If there is any preload on the clutch it will cause multiple issues. Having a tiny bit of slack ensures good air gap when you push the pedal in and will make sure the clutch is fully engaged when you let off the clutch. Too much slack will obviously cause issues with disengaging. It amazes me how many people mis adjust their clutch because they like the way it feels when it engages at a certain pedal height.

[BEASTstang]

Good info !!!

[ryanw]

Originally Posted by ryans88gt Use whatever hook and whatever cable setting (ford cable is the best). What matters is that you have about a dimes width of free play in the cable at the firewall adjuster when correctly adjusted. If there is any preload on the clutch it will cause multiple issues. Having a tiny bit of slack ensures good air gap when you push the pedal in and will make sure the clutch is fully engaged when you let off the clutch. Too much slack will obviously cause issues with disengaging. It amazes me how many people mis adjust their clutch because they like the way it feels when it engages at a certain pedal height.

So you recomend a fire wall ajuster with a non ajustable stock ford cable ?

[Granatelli]

Originally Posted by ryanw So you recomend a fire wall ajuster with a non ajustable stock ford cable ?

That also works but I promise you, you will ove the GMS kit with all three parts - they sell gillians of them with no cable issues - use the adjustability

[ryanw]

Thanks

[ryans88gt]

ford cable is better, other cables may work.
well documented problems with some cables not being as strong or stretching significantly.

besides with a firewall adjuster, you don't need an adjustable cable.

And as a rule of thumb, always do your homework when someone is trying to sell you something.

[Ohsplat]

ryan I know you use the ford cable, which quadrant and adjuster do you use?

[ryanw]

Right now i have an ajustable cable of unknown brand.... no fire ajuster
I do have the aluminum quadrant.

How far off the floor should my pedal be for the clutch grab with the set up i have now ?

[Ohsplat]

Sorry man I meant the other ryan. As for your question I would think no matter the set up it should always grab in the same spot if it is correct. I far from a expert in the matter though. Im usually a C4 guy.