Suggest a cam for me!

Fiacco819 · January 31st, 2012, 05:17 PM

Hey guys, figured I'd make a thread to get more viewers. I'm looking to buy a new hydraulic roller cam, and need some suggestions based on my setup. I'm not looking to change heads or intake, so please don't suggest that. Here's a quick overview of what I'm running:
306, flattop pistons, stock rods and crank.
75mm Tb, 90mm MAF, gt40 intake w/ported lower
47lb injectors (plan to blower next year)
Windsor Jr cast heads 57cc, 1.6 RR's
Long tube headers, no cats, 373 gears
I'll also have it custom tuned.
Shift points 6k-6.2k, 50% street 50% track time

I currently have the x303, but know I can do better. Ive only been suggested the N-41 so far. It's hard to pick out one that will work with my head/intake package.

ryanw · January 31st, 2012, 05:22 PM

Im not a cam guy, so i cant really help, but it seems that both horsepowerjunki and 69 fastback agree on the same cam, so since they have built more engines then us, id just go with there suggestion, or get a custom cam, but make sure that what ever cam you pic, that you get the recomened valve springs to go with it

coreyflipp · January 31st, 2012, 05:57 PM

Off the shelf cams are just marketing ploys. If you want a cam for your car that will actually work for your combo you'll have to give someone who knows what they are doing a call and have them grind you a custom cam. Sure, there is most likely an ots cam that will work good but how does one know what cam that may be. What are windsor jr's, 180 cc? If you just randomly pick something you may wind up with a terrible powerband, bad driveability, funky idle etc. Really for that setup youre better off just keeping the stock cam in my opinion.

I think the Comp xe270-114 would be a good cam for you, now go buy it because I recommended it.

horsepowerjunkie · January 31st, 2012, 07:09 PM

I think the N41 would be an excellent choice. That's what is going into my new 306 build. I am currently running the Comp XE266HR, and that cam works awsome. But like already stated, you may want to check into Ed Curtis @ FTI for a custom cam. They are only $25 over the cost of a new Anderson cam, so if you're gona buy new that may be the way to go!

Fiacco819 · January 31st, 2012, 07:14 PM

I'm not looking to "Buy what you recommend". My goal of this thread is to open my eyes a little about what may have worked for others with a similar combo, or what suggestions arise so I can go check them out and compare one opinion to another. And yes I'm waiting for a custom cam quote from Comp cams, but will change my cam in a year or so to go blower. So if I can get a similar "off the shelf" cam to the custom grind, I will in Lou of saving cash. It also helps me bounce ideas off other minds, in order for me to not to run into problems someone else may have. Nothing wrong with that.

So back on the lighter side of things,
x303 (current cam) 224/224 Duration .542 lift. I have roughly .115 PTV clearance with this setup.
N-41......222/232 .512/.512 - Looks like I may not flow as much on the intake side, but exhaust would improve
N-51HR...226/234 .520/.528 - Possibly flow better int/Exh
XE274HR... 224/232 .555/.565 - Might be getting too close with PTV clearance @ exhaust?

I am un-aware of any other cams that I should possibly look into, Nor am I aware of their ramp rates. I'm not a cam-wizard, thats why I'm asking BEFORE I slap something in. I also sent an e-mail to Ed Curtis, But I am unable to provide all the engine specs his paperwork asks for. So I'm not sure if he'll be able to come up with something for me or not.

ALEXLOPEZ62188 · January 31st, 2012, 08:43 PM

Actually the n41 and n51 seem like good choices. The xe274hr is an awesome cam, but might too close on the exhaust side. I believe on the exhaust side .110 clearance is whats recommended for those longer duration cams on the exhaust side.

Bubba95SN · January 31st, 2012, 10:00 PM

Ed Curtis custom ground camshaft $325.

69fastback · February 1st, 2012, 01:32 AM

I think the 274h is to much for his combo.

StangBanger302 · February 1st, 2012, 03:23 PM

I would get a custom for your setup...Your heads don't really like that much lift but you could use about 226/228 duration. Something like .540/.550 lift would be good. Just post up whatever you don't know on the build sheet and we'll help you out.

StangBanger302 · February 1st, 2012, 03:24 PM

Originally Posted by 69fastback

I think the 274h is to much for his combo.

And the N51 too.

tyler97 · February 2nd, 2012, 09:18 PM

I agree GO CUSTOM

Fiacco819 · February 2nd, 2012, 10:15 PM

So I've ruled out the 274H, will be way too big after more research, I've got e-mails out to AFM asking which cam they suggest out of their line-up, Ed Curtis for a potential custom grind, and comp cams for their recommendation for an "off the shelf" cam along with a custom grind. Still waiting on words from them

My only drawback to custom, is that I'll have to change cams next winter when I go bigger heads and intake

tyler97 · February 2nd, 2012, 10:33 PM

Good luck with comp did the spec sheet 2 months ago never got a recomendation

Fiacco819 · February 3rd, 2012, 09:50 AM

I've had a few e-mails back and forth with a comp cams tech about cam specs. But so far I've only heard from AFM, they recommended the N41 due to my intake and rear end. I'll most likely wait until mid week to make my decision. Hopefully Ed or comp cams will get back to me with some options

69fastback · February 3rd, 2012, 09:55 AM

Originally Posted by Fiacco819

I've had a few e-mails back and forth with a comp cams tech about cam specs. But so far I've only heard from AFM, they recommended the N41 due to my intake and rear end. I'll most likely wait until mid week to make my decision. Hopefully Ed or comp cams will get back to me with some options

Fiacco819 · February 3rd, 2012, 11:17 AM

I appreciated your opinion, it's just hard to look at my current cam's specs and then look at a cam with smaller numbers, to expect better performance

Fiacco819 · February 6th, 2012, 07:55 PM

So after talking with comp cams, I've realized they dont have any decent cams that will suit my build Unless I switch to 1.7 rockers. So I'm leaning towards the AFM N-41, in hope that it will out-perform my FR x303 cam. But heres what I'll be doing:
* N-41 cam
* 0.008 Thinner head gasket
* Have my heads reconditioned, valve seats cut, heads milled flat
* Springs measured in hope to re-use

If the cam performs roughly the same, at least I'll have a little more compression

skeletonpsycho · February 6th, 2012, 08:00 PM

Bulet Cams give em a call and dont look back

69fastback · February 6th, 2012, 08:17 PM

^^^^ That's who did mine

skeletonpsycho · February 6th, 2012, 08:19 PM

Originally Posted by 69fastback

^^^^ That's who did mine

and you never looked back right lol for the money and the expertise Bullet has its a win win btw i still want your fastback lol

January 31st, 2012, 05:17 PM	#1
Fiacco819 Regular 1993 12.53@110.85 Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: New York Posts: 203 iTrader: 0 reviews	Suggest a cam for me! Hey guys, figured I'd make a thread to get more viewers. I'm looking to buy a new hydraulic roller cam, and need some suggestions based on my setup. I'm not looking to change heads or intake, so please don't suggest that. Here's a quick overview of what I'm running: 306, flattop pistons, stock rods and crank. 75mm Tb, 90mm MAF, gt40 intake w/ported lower 47lb injectors (plan to blower next year) Windsor Jr cast heads 57cc, 1.6 RR's Long tube headers, no cats, 373 gears I'll also have it custom tuned. Shift points 6k-6.2k, 50% street 50% track time I currently have the x303, but know I can do better. Ive only been suggested the N-41 so far. It's hard to pick out one that will work with my head/intake package. __________________ Roc City Mustangs 12.53@110.85 N/A 1.87 60' Rochester, NY

January 31st, 2012, 05:22 PM	#2
ryanw I Post Entirely Way Too Much 1991 Ford Mustang GT Join Date: May 2007 Location: San Diego, California Posts: 6,063 iTrader: 0 reviews	Im not a cam guy, so i cant really help, but it seems that both horsepowerjunki and 69 fastback agree on the same cam, so since they have built more engines then us, id just go with there suggestion, or get a custom cam, but make sure that what ever cam you pic, that you get the recomened valve springs to go with it __________________ DART 331ci stroker, AFR 185 heads, Trick Flow R intake, Accufab 70mm tb, 75mm pro m Maf, 30lb injectors, jba headers, 2 1/2" x pipe flowmaster super 10 mufflers, 255 fuel pump, 3:27 gears

January 31st, 2012, 05:57 PM	#3
coreyflipp Enthusiast 1990 Mustang gt Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: college station, texas Posts: 504 iTrader: 0 reviews	Off the shelf cams are just marketing ploys. If you want a cam for your car that will actually work for your combo you'll have to give someone who knows what they are doing a call and have them grind you a custom cam. Sure, there is most likely an ots cam that will work good but how does one know what cam that may be. What are windsor jr's, 180 cc? If you just randomly pick something you may wind up with a terrible powerband, bad driveability, funky idle etc. Really for that setup youre better off just keeping the stock cam in my opinion. I think the Comp xe270-114 would be a good cam for you, now go buy it because I recommended it. __________________ 2002 gt 5-speed slow 1990 gt 5-speed junk

January 31st, 2012, 07:09 PM	#4
horsepowerjunkie Hardcore Enthusiast 1989 Black LX---Turbo Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: just outside Minot, ND Posts: 1,153 iTrader: 0 reviews	I think the N41 would be an excellent choice. That's what is going into my new 306 build. I am currently running the Comp XE266HR, and that cam works awsome. But like already stated, you may want to check into Ed Curtis @ FTI for a custom cam. They are only $25 over the cost of a new Anderson cam, so if you're gona buy new that may be the way to go! __________________ 89 LX Black, Boss 331, C4,T76BB, FAST EFI 82 Capri RS,89 5.0 HO,Comp XE266,TW 170,T5,etc. 73 Dart Sport 340, 410ci Bracket Brawler 72 Demon 340 4-speed 1 of 1667 01 Ram Quad Cab 03 Grizzley 660

January 31st, 2012, 07:14 PM	#5
Fiacco819 Regular 1993 12.53@110.85 Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: New York Posts: 203 iTrader: 0 reviews	I'm not looking to "Buy what you recommend". My goal of this thread is to open my eyes a little about what may have worked for others with a similar combo, or what suggestions arise so I can go check them out and compare one opinion to another. And yes I'm waiting for a custom cam quote from Comp cams, but will change my cam in a year or so to go blower. So if I can get a similar "off the shelf" cam to the custom grind, I will in Lou of saving cash. It also helps me bounce ideas off other minds, in order for me to not to run into problems someone else may have. Nothing wrong with that. So back on the lighter side of things, x303 (current cam) 224/224 Duration .542 lift. I have roughly .115 PTV clearance with this setup. N-41......222/232 .512/.512 - Looks like I may not flow as much on the intake side, but exhaust would improve N-51HR...226/234 .520/.528 - Possibly flow better int/Exh XE274HR... 224/232 .555/.565 - Might be getting too close with PTV clearance @ exhaust? I am un-aware of any other cams that I should possibly look into, Nor am I aware of their ramp rates. I'm not a cam-wizard, thats why I'm asking BEFORE I slap something in. I also sent an e-mail to Ed Curtis, But I am unable to provide all the engine specs his paperwork asks for. So I'm not sure if he'll be able to come up with something for me or not. __________________ Roc City Mustangs 12.53@110.85 N/A 1.87 60' Rochester, NY

January 31st, 2012, 08:43 PM	#6
ALEXLOPEZ62188 Mustang Fanatic 1989 Mustang LX Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Apple Valley, CA Posts: 409 iTrader: 0 reviews	Actually the n41 and n51 seem like good choices. The xe274hr is an awesome cam, but might too close on the exhaust side. I believe on the exhaust side .110 clearance is whats recommended for those longer duration cams on the exhaust side. __________________ 89 Mustang LX: 347 AFR Comp Cam TFS Track Heat 359rwhp 395rwtq

January 31st, 2012, 10:00 PM	#7
Bubba95SN Regular 1995 Mustang GT Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Jacksonville NC Posts: 211 iTrader: 0 reviews	Ed Curtis custom ground camshaft $325.

February 1st, 2012, 01:32 AM	#8
69fastback Premium Member 1969 Mustang Mach 1 6.824@101.61 Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Oklahoma jackass, get to driving Posts: 5,565 iTrader: 0 reviews	I think the 274h is to much for his combo. __________________ ./___ _ ____ ___ \. ( ]]] _ _ O _ _ [[[ ) \_ o _ _____ _ o _/ \|___\| ......... \|___\| http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HyYU3...e_gdata_player

February 1st, 2012, 03:23 PM	#9
StangBanger302 Hardcore Enthusiast 1992 Mustang LX 13.0 @ 105 Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: New York Posts: 2,230 iTrader: 0 reviews	I would get a custom for your setup...Your heads don't really like that much lift but you could use about 226/228 duration. Something like .540/.550 lift would be good. Just post up whatever you don't know on the build sheet and we'll help you out. __________________ As I lay rubber down the street I pray for traction I can keep But if I spin, and begin to slide Please dear God, protect my ride

February 2nd, 2012, 09:18 PM	#11
tyler97 Regular 1991 gt cobra clone Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: FL Posts: 374 iTrader: 0 reviews	I agree GO CUSTOM __________________ 1991 GT- Ripped torque boxes/no SFCs/306/24lb injectors/Twisted Wedge 170s/Full exhaust/Full bolt ons/X3Z computer Buid thread http://www.moddedmustangs.com/forums...ld-thread.html

February 2nd, 2012, 10:15 PM	#12
Fiacco819 Regular 1993 12.53@110.85 Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: New York Posts: 203 iTrader: 0 reviews	So I've ruled out the 274H, will be way too big after more research, I've got e-mails out to AFM asking which cam they suggest out of their line-up, Ed Curtis for a potential custom grind, and comp cams for their recommendation for an "off the shelf" cam along with a custom grind. Still waiting on words from them My only drawback to custom, is that I'll have to change cams next winter when I go bigger heads and intake __________________ Roc City Mustangs 12.53@110.85 N/A 1.87 60' Rochester, NY

February 2nd, 2012, 10:33 PM	#13
tyler97 Regular 1991 gt cobra clone Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: FL Posts: 374 iTrader: 0 reviews	Good luck with comp did the spec sheet 2 months ago never got a recomendation __________________ 1991 GT- Ripped torque boxes/no SFCs/306/24lb injectors/Twisted Wedge 170s/Full exhaust/Full bolt ons/X3Z computer Buid thread http://www.moddedmustangs.com/forums...ld-thread.html

February 3rd, 2012, 09:50 AM	#14
Fiacco819 Regular 1993 12.53@110.85 Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: New York Posts: 203 iTrader: 0 reviews	I've had a few e-mails back and forth with a comp cams tech about cam specs. But so far I've only heard from AFM, they recommended the N41 due to my intake and rear end. I'll most likely wait until mid week to make my decision. Hopefully Ed or comp cams will get back to me with some options __________________ Roc City Mustangs 12.53@110.85 N/A 1.87 60' Rochester, NY

February 3rd, 2012, 11:17 AM	#16
Fiacco819 Regular 1993 12.53@110.85 Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: New York Posts: 203 iTrader: 0 reviews	I appreciated your opinion, it's just hard to look at my current cam's specs and then look at a cam with smaller numbers, to expect better performance __________________ Roc City Mustangs 12.53@110.85 N/A 1.87 60' Rochester, NY

February 6th, 2012, 07:55 PM	#17
Fiacco819 Regular 1993 12.53@110.85 Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: New York Posts: 203 iTrader: 0 reviews	So after talking with comp cams, I've realized they dont have any decent cams that will suit my build Unless I switch to 1.7 rockers. So I'm leaning towards the AFM N-41, in hope that it will out-perform my FR x303 cam. But heres what I'll be doing: * N-41 cam * 0.008 Thinner head gasket * Have my heads reconditioned, valve seats cut, heads milled flat * Springs measured in hope to re-use If the cam performs roughly the same, at least I'll have a little more compression __________________ Roc City Mustangs 12.53@110.85 N/A 1.87 60' Rochester, NY

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February 6th, 2012, 08:00 PM	#18
skeletonpsycho Regular 1987 mustang GT 10.92@122 Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: ephrata pa Posts: 158 iTrader: 0 reviews	Bulet Cams give em a call and dont look back __________________ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gQ7g9ystpiU 347 all motor wawa pump gas driven everywhere

February 6th, 2012, 08:17 PM	#19
69fastback Premium Member 1969 Mustang Mach 1 6.824@101.61 Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Oklahoma jackass, get to driving Posts: 5,565 iTrader: 0 reviews	^^^^ That's who did mine __________________ ./___ _ ____ ___ \. ( ]]] _ _ O _ _ [[[ ) \_ o _ _____ _ o _/ \|___\| ......... \|___\| http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HyYU3...e_gdata_player

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