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Old April 12th, 2012, 02:14 AM   #1
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Supercharged or 351


I have a choice between a 87 fox with a 351 windsor and a 91 notch with a new cobra motor, e303 cam, 24lb injectors, ect and a powerdyne supercharger. Now im wondering which would make more power and have more potential?
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Your not really giving enough info, to know which one is making more power. Whats done to the 351 ? The 351 has a higher power potential, but if its just some random stock 351 , then im guessing the supercharged 302 is makin more power as of now.

That being said, powerdyne is one of the worst superchargers on the market, there internally belt driven. Which makes them run cooler then other superchargers ( thats a good thing ) the negative is they cant spin vary high and the belts break.

The E303 cam is old out dated tech,( there from the early 90s )there are much better cams out there. So dont let the fact, that the car has an E cam, be a selling point.
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Your not really giving enough info, to know which one is making more power. Whats done to the 351 ? The 351 has a higher power potential, but if its just some random stock 351 , then im guessing the supercharged 302 is makin more power as of now.

That being said, powerdyne is one of the worst superchargers on the market, there internally belt driven. Which makes them run cooler then other superchargers ( thats a good thing ) the negative is they cant spin vary high and the belts break.

The E303 cam is old out dated tech,( there from the early 90s )there are much better cams out there. So dont let the fact, that the car has an E cam, be a selling point.
So are you saying that i should stay away from it because of the supercharger? i dont want to have to replace belts all the time. And yeah the 351 is stock.
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No, im not saying to stay away from it because of the supercharger, im just saying dont let that be a factor in paying more money for that car. That supercharger can be pulled off and sold for $1000-1200 on ebay.
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No, im not saying to stay away from it because of the supercharger, im just saying dont let that be a factor in paying more money for that car. That supercharger can be pulled off and sold for $1000-1200 on ebay.
So it will make good power still but might have a problem breaking a belt correct? and what about spraying a supercharged mustang?
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A positive is the notch is worth more then the 87.

The 1991 has mass air and bigger wheel wells and can take a bigger wheel, it has air bags, nicer smaller head rest and shoulder belts in the back seat for safty. So in my opinion, with out seeing either car id go for the 91 notch.
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Originally Posted by ryanw View Post
A positive is the notch is worth more then the 87.

The 1991 has mass air and bigger wheel wells and can take a bigger wheel, it has air bags, nicer smaller head rest and shoulder belts in the back seat for safty. So in my opinion, with out seeing either car id go for the 91 notch.
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So it will make good power still but might have a problem breaking a belt correct? and what about spraying a supercharged mustang?
I dont know any thing about spraying the juice.... thats some thing , ill leave to some one else to answer. If your not hard on it, by over spining the charger, it might last a long time. I dont think the belts cost that much.
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Post pictures of each.. inside and out. How are the bodys ? Dont buy a rust, or bondo bucket, or any thing with a salvage title
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Originally Posted by ryanw View Post
Post pictures of each.. inside and out. How are the bodys ? Dont buy a rust, or bondo bucket, or any thing with a salvage title
I only got some of the 91 notch here it is.
1991 MUSTANG, NOTCH (SUPERCHARGED)

Heres another i just found:
http://milwaukee.craigslist.org/cto/2932309703.html
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The wing is gay, and the hood looks like it should be on a 1983 mustang.

If you get it. Take the wing off, and run it with out one.. change the hood to either stock, or a cowl.

Find out if its an original v8 car or if it was a 4 cylinder converted over to a v8
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Originally Posted by ryanw View Post
The wing is gay, and the hood looks like it should be on a 1983 mustang.

If you get it. Take the wing off, and run it with out one.. change the hood to either stock, or a cowl.

Find out if its an original v8 car or if it was a 4 cylinder converted over to a v8
Your talking about the 91? yeah thats what i thought. ive never seen a fox with that wing. what about the other the 87 with the vortec?
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There both nice. I didnt see where the 87 had a 351.

The 87 has a better supercharger, the intake is worth more then whats on the 1991.
The 87 seems like it has better parts.

Both cars state that they have gt40 cylinder heads. Ill post a picture of them so you know if the car really hs them or not, cuz some people lie.

If you look on the right you will see 3 bars, if they dont have that marking then there not gt40. If you see 4 bars then there gt40p heads which are good to.
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One thing i do find odd about the 87. The add states he has 50 lb injectors (which is over kill for that combo) but that not whats odd, he has a F.M.U on the passenger strut tower.

Any ways its bed time, ill check this thread tomorrow

The only way i can see how that set up would work is if he has the fuel pressure turned way down and is using the fmu to give more fuel pressure under boost....... other wise id think he would flood the engine at idle. But thats just a guess
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Originally Posted by ryanw View Post
One thing i do find odd about the 87. Is the add states he has 50 lb injectors (which is over kill for that combo) but that not whats odd, he has a F.M.U on the passenger strut tower.

Any ways its bed time, ill check this thread tomorrow
Okay thanks for the tip on the gt 40 heads. And thats not bad though is it? as long as its tuned correctly and what is a F.M.U?
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fmu takes small injectors and makes them flow more underboost...a better way to fix it is get correct injectors and maf.
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if i had the choice when buying my fox, i would have gone with a notch personally.worth more, lighter weight, and nice looking.
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Well my buddy has a 1988 Mustang Gt with headers, flowmaster exhaust, mild cam, intake, and 3.73 gears. He offered to sell it to me for 2700 bucks. The car has some rust but not a lot and 123,000 miles on it. Its very well maintained because his step father loves mustangs and has a fully restored 69 fastback and he knows what hes doing. So my question is would that car be able to take a 150 wet shot? very well maintained no joke!
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yes my dads buddys car is a 89 lx 302 svo heads,small cam,and cobra intake,200 shot, slicks,and 373s all stock suspension not even rear control arms runs 10s all day.
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if i had the choice when buying my fox, i would have gone with a notch personally.worth more, lighter weight, and nice looking.
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